nVENTIVs reply to LS?

[Kamarkis]

Hi all. First post

Check this out.....

http://www.chip-con.com/index.php?pageid=102

[Naughtyboy]

How on earth did you find that link.....thers no direct link on the site..

However if this is something soon to be released....then it seemes like Asetek got some competition.

[Kamarkis]

I can't take credit for finding the link i found it on another forum.
What kinda gas go you think this baby will be on?

[Evil_Spork]

r404 or r507. probly 507 to have a 1:1 with asetek

[Cole]

http://www.chip-con.com/

OUCH !!! - The new Mach2 GT !

Performance without compromise is what the Mach II GT stands for. It is aimed at people who want the fastest possible computer. The new GT model allows users to overclock their CPUs to perform faster than the "Speed of Light".

To illustrate this nVENTIV has set a new record for commercially available cooling by going beyond the 5 GHz barrier. Screenshot here. The system is shown at the Asus stand on CeBit 2004.

The Mach II GT's extreme performance is for sale at €799,- (reseller may add Shipping + VAT to shown retailprice)

[hatemi]

Anyone see a slight hint to the naming of vapo Light Speed???

[cpulloverclock]

nVENTIV is proud to announce the:



Performance without compromise is what the Mach II GT stands for. It is aimed at people who want the fastest possible computer. The new GT model allows users to overclock their CPUs to perform faster than the "Speed of Light".

To illustrate this nVENTIV has set a new record for commercially available cooling by going beyond the 5 GHz barrier. Screenshot here.

Pictures of the system running 5GHz shown at the Asus stand on CeBit 2004 can be found here and here.

The Mach II GT's extreme performance is for sale at €799,- (reseller may add Shipping + VAT to shown retailprice)

Go to the Product description to learn more or e-mail us at sales@nventiv.com

[TheDude]

Damn...it's hard to keep any secrets from you guys. Someone else already found this yesterday and published it in the ST thread.
I was notified by nVENTIV via email from Cebit this morning that it has been publicly released.
I was the first person in the US to get one of these and have had it for over a week now. I have been testing it with several different chips and motherboards.
Xtreme will have the review by this weekend, maybe Monday morning.
I can verify that it uses 404a. Please understand that if I answered all your questions now, there would be no need for the review!
As far as I know Bowman has the only other GT in the country right now and will be using it for his temperature tests.
I know everyone has questions, instead of asking them, please tell me what you want to see in the review. Keep in mind that I do not have a Vapochill LS to compare.

[QuadDamage]

still the same evap housing design. not sure what they improved here. Looks like they finally equipped it with a bendable hose at last.
Lets see what this unit can really do.

opps 5GHz egg cooker. nice indeed

[cpulloverclock]

[Evil_Spork]

stable 5gig system?

that friends is something. wonder if its benchmarkable.... i mean.. fugger gets about 4500mhz max for 3dmark with his cascade. how do they have 5gig to sit there all day? are are you thinking its another comp with a screenshot on it like me?

im calling shinanigans.

[TheDude]

No shinanigans.....they have been running that for at least a week. I have the original screenie of it when they first hit it.
Do you really think they have a pic of it on the screen...come on...get real guy....and no one would spot it?
First of all they wouldn't do something like that.... and if they did, they wouldn't get away with it. That's a serious and unfounded accusation to make.
On the other hand I just got an email from a friend who is at Cebit right now. He said the LS is running at 4.4GHZ with only WCPUID running. The brightness is turned down so far that you can hardly read the screen, but if you look close you can see it's running at -19.5c!
Their documents say -24 at 200w....so why is it running -19.5 at less than 150w?

[paul007]

What we would all like to know and this being one small feature out of everything is the compressor model #

I wonder myself If they took the nf9fx danfoss and juiced it with r404/r507 as we all know that compressor is great with a gas upgrade or they used the same r134a unit but the higher up model as in the nf10fx... If you look over danfoss for suitable drop-ins that meet the 115v 200w+ range you will only find a few LBT/MBT units nf9fx, nf10fx or the same unit that the Vapochill LS uses of course the r404/r507 model, but then again we are left with being able to reach a -65c evap "true temp this time they state" without having too long of a cap tube to drop total overall heat removal capacity from the unit at high loads.

[Evil_Spork]

yeah i know.. i wouldnt really expect them to fake soemthing like that.. but your friend saying its running 4400mhz sounds alot more realistic than 5gig for a week!

major kudos to them if they DO have a stable 5gig system there, thats fantastic!

(fyi i was partially joking around with the shinanigans thing :P)

so... id the thing really doin -19.5 with ~150watts? that would be a kinda bad thing, no?

[paul007]

On the other hand I just got an email from a friend who is at Cebit right now. He said the LS is running at 4.4GHZ with only WCPUID running. The brightness is turned down so far that you can hardly read the screen, but if you look close you can see it's running at -19.5c!
Their documents say -24 at 200w....so why is it running -19.5 at less than 150w?

what voltage is that 4.4ghz taking though? Maybe they needed a good 1.75v on there CPU and if that CPU is a 4.4ghz P4EE for example with the added cache its possible to pukll the vapochill down like the older units with the bf35/bf50 compressors, hehe.

[TheDude]

Paul,
I won't give too much away here as the review will be out soon, but your first guess is correct.
There is no way for him to know what the voltage is set to.
Keep in mind, I doubt if the 5GHZ or the 4.4GHZ is very stable. I imagine it's the highest clock they can reach that will hold on the screen without crashing. It just makes sense that both would display highest possible clock.

[Evil_Spork]

how match wattage would a p4ee @ 4.4 with 1.75v be pushing?

cant be over 200 i dont think... though i have managed to get 164watts out of my barton(2650mhz 2vcore)

*edit* i see were all playign the F5 game here.. lol

[cpulloverclock]

a good test would be a proc on a Mach II GT cooling and the same proc at the same voltage with a Vapo LS.

[TheDude]

Originally posted by cpulloverclock
a good test would be a proc on a Mach II LS cooling and the same proc at the same voltage with a Vapo LS.

Indeed it would...if I had an LS.

[Charles Wirth]

Evil_Spork, I have a Galatin core and that is a prescott.

5Ghz is a awesome milestone, grats JC!

[Evil_Spork]

MachII ST

i wanna see a reg MachII v MachII ST v MachII GT v Vapochill LS

a nice little graph, each with teh same system and same settings, what temps they show, how they work, what gas and compressor they use. ect ect.. maybe we can gather all the info, TheDude, can you help this out?

[Evil_Spork]

Originally posted by FUGGER
Evil_Spork, I have a Galatin core and that is a prescott.

5Ghz is a awesome milestone, grats JC!

oh yeah, i guess the prescotts with some effort will do nice speeds after all.

Fugger, do you by chance have any numbers for how much heat your EE puts out at speed?

[TheDude]

I have the MachII and the MachII-GT but I'm not sure I would get involved with a review that had several different authors. I need to know for a fact that things are done correctly and in a certain way, before I will put my name on it. Understand what I mean?

[LardArse]

The 5Ghz is a prescott but I don't know the voltage used and the stability of it. The board that it is ran on is specially made/modified by Asus to be more "prescott-suited".

[Evil_Spork]

like 6phase power? im under the impression they use a 4 or 5 phase instead of 6 phase. correct me if im wrong. also isnt that how tom got his 5gig on LN2?


thedude: i know what you mean, but i meant more of a gathering of information . the actualy temps can be done by someone else your yourself later if you get a vapochill ls.

i think a single place to see which systems use what compressor and gas, and price! that would be very helpfull for those looking at which to buy, be it only numbers on paper and no actual tests it will help.

later real temp tests will come, we'll know soon enough.