x1800--->9700marks(default) at 3dmark05?

[Vapor]

If Gibbo's saying then there's at least a bit of truth in it....I don't trust a single thing from AXP1800, even about nV cards.

And I would like more proof, please....one etailer from the UK (sorry, but if Europe doesn't get any, I don't give a ) isn't particularly sufficient as what's been understood so far is that the reviewers in Ibiza (all 90 of them or something) got to take home an X1800XT (or something like that).

Frankly, I'm only curious because I want to know when I should start packing up my 7800GTX so I can sell it at a decent price

[LittleDevil]

Does anyone have some new pictures?

tnx

[Vapor]

28 more hours dude....

[Tim]

(sorry, but if Europe doesn't get any, I don't give a )

I think I have proven the point here....let's keep the topic on track.....

[Harshal]

Yup, I think NVIDIA did raise the bar too much High with full availability from day one. Hope ATI manages atleast half of it. Also prices better be in line with features and performances. Paying loads of money just to get 860/1900 and not real world performance in games means Foolish/Stupid and not Xtreme. Also Xtreme benching may be different from what many of us do at home. But then we all are humans and have our weakness to get better/fast things.

[ArcTan]

under 12 hours to go but dammit I have an exam and assignment to hand in

[mrlobber]

under 12 hours to go but dammit I have an exam and assignment to hand in

It's your time there while ATIs internal clock (not that one on the website) probably counts U.S. time or even that of Ibiza

[Ugly n Grey]

Wow Troman, you must be psychic, I didn't know an ultra could beat the 1800xt.... in fact I don't even know for sure what the scores are on an xt. But you also seem to know what the scores are on a card that was cacelled will be. Can you fill us in? "Throw me a frikkin bone here"

[perkam]

The Ultra was rumored to be the 32 pipe 90nm big brother of the gtx...but seeing that the R580 (ATI's 32 pipe card) wouldnt make it to stores before spring/summer 2k5 (ATI Shareholder meeting), nvidia decided to cancel it...at least afaik.

At any rate, none of the big companies are ready to release an update to their high end line without an update to their low and mid end. Remember, ATI might be behind in the high end market, but its (hopefully) bringing the nex gen low and mid end before nvidia.

I hope they fix up the RV530 too, cos for $200, i can already get a GTO which can do ~4500 in 05, so a jump to 5100 isnt a big one.

Perkam

[Ugly n Grey]

Agreed Perkam, I was thinking the same thing, unless there is something I definitely need in the x1K line up that GTO2 is looking like the deal of the century

[Ugly n Grey]

No actually Troman, I asked YOU what the scores are on all these cards, since you stated as a fact that the mythical Ultra (yeah the one that was never made) will beat an X1800XT (that's the card not released till tomorrow with no certifiable benches yet), I figured you must know what these scores are?

[Ugly n Grey]

Your post was in a public place, if your desire was to keep it private I'm sure you could have used PM.

So what's the answer Troman? Do you have this data?

[dinos22]

any chance on revisiting my Question Grayskull

Grayskull can you comment on this quote

I dont know, I just try to say that The Stilt has tested an ATI Crossfire reference mobo..

If I dont remember very wrong, The Stilt tested an CPU with cold bug and it did'nt OC at all with, hmm, cascade? CO2? LN2?
Then he tested this ATI CF mobo and same thing, hard cold bug, but in BIOS he found "adjustable drive strenght resistor's" (I dont know if it writes/translates like that) and CPU OC like hell after that "found"
No cold bug

That's why I asked if someone know if DFI's crossfire mobo has these adjustable resisance's optios in BIOS, if they have so I think cold bug is history

[Lestat HWL]

You have been warned. You have disrespected XS staff, and a company support rep., which is against forum rules. If this happens again, I will ask that you are banned.

Consider yourself warned.

No actually

mu post says

@Grayskull

you can read ,do you?

[dinos22]

so ban me ,you think i care when i'm in tight in my shoes?

should i post his pm's?

ban///

[Lestat HWL]

Ugly n Grey has shown me the PM's, that I do not need to see. What do you mean, tight in your shoes? You have shown little regard of respect to the moderators and the support reps of this forum. I have requested that you be removed from these forums.

[Ugly n Grey]

Troman,

You seem to believe it's OK to ride a company rep for information he really can't give us, you can't seem to take a hint and back off. Flaming me is pointless, I don't mind being flamed, I will keep coming back to the point at hand. You make some pretty wild statements and postulation yet think we should all spend eternity debating them as if they were real. I am asking you for the data that makes you think there is ANYTHING TO KEEP IN MIND and anything to speculate over....

Your behaviour is not acceptable BTW, your consistant disregard for decent behaviour when approaching a support rep is unbecoming of a gentleman and a member of the overclocking community. I am referencing this thread and others.

UnG

[Lestat HWL]

Troman, Mark is a respected member of staff here at XtremeSystems. He has given us no reason to doubt him, and as such, we will accept what our staff members tell us as truth.

You have disrespected Mark several times, and it won't happen again.

[hipro5]

Guys.......WHY don't we play with our chicks or our VGA's or our computers or a game instead of playing with words?........NOONE is going to win anything out of this....only ATI and NVIDIA......

[wfarid]

I just went back to 60hz for approximately 1 minute (i have a good old CRT) and I wanted to gouge my eyes out. It is really bad, at least for me. I really really hope ATI fixes this problem with the r520...

but here's my prediction for the r520 launch : I think they are going to do what Nvidea did and just have everything available--x1800s and the crossfire motherboards @ launch... But we'll just have to wait and see...

[Lestat HWL]

You guys take this mess to seriously.
I buy the cards the "DAY" I see them show up in the USA regardless of price and have done so from the g4ti4600 to the 7800gtx, but Im not laughing or crying about there ETA as I know as should anyone here by now that they come when they come.

If this is all whitepaper stuff, let it be, it doesn't hurt you or me just the company behind it.

X800xt pe was months behind the whitepage notes, but it finally arived and arived well at that.

The more ATI delays Im sure the better the final retial product will be. Thats good for all of us in the end.

I totally agree Jason. You make a good point my friend.

[Lestat HWL]

yes and i why is that?i just give you the answer..
action -->reaction...

"we will accept what our staff members tell us as truth."
that's bs and you know it,now you are telling me that even he flamed the out of someone,when he says no it's no?

I know what to do now,i will ignore his post aimed at me that i don't like..
(when they contain bs ofcourse,truth that's an other story)

He hasn't flamed you in this thread, you have been disrespecting Grayskull and Ugly n Gray throughout this thread, and enough is enough. This isn't the only incident with you.

So, you choose to persist flaming him, saying that he is telling a lie. As I said earlier, a request has been put in for your ban.

[shadowing]

You guys take this mess to seriously.
I buy the cards the "DAY" I see them show up in the USA regardless of price and have done so from the g4ti4600 to the 7800gtx, but Im not laughing or crying about there ETA as I know as should anyone here by now that they come when they come.

If this is all whitepaper stuff, let it be, it doesn't hurt you or me just the company behind it.

X800xt pe was months behind the whitepage notes, but it finally arived and arived well at that.

The more ATI delays Im sure the better the final retial product will be. Thats good for all of us in the end.

I agree man. Too bad I don't have the funds to even buy it. For now, I think my 7800GTX is enough... If the X1800 is better than it, then let it be.. I can oc mine to that same score.

[hipro5]

.......and the crossfire motherboards @ launch... But we'll just have to wait and see...

As for the mobos, they are just "sitting" in the basements of the shops - at least here in Greece - for about 2 weeks ready to hit the market with a sign....If I'm not wrong, the DFI ones....

Bill can you second that?.....

[V I P E R]

I agree man. Too bad I don't have the funds to even buy it. For now, I think my 7800GTX is enough... If the X1800 is better than it, then let it be.. I can oc mine to that same score.

But if you overclock x1800 what will happen .
There are other things in x1800 that can make people sell their 7800GTX .