XS Yonah T2600ES competition !!!

[Salkcin]

It was a 945G I think :S

I haven't seen the motherboard myself, but got told it was without a northbridge heatsink and the chip said 975X...

[M.Beier]

Then it was probaly an LGA card..

[dinos22]

DFI announced on Cebit that they are planning a i975 mobo for core duo.
But no pictures or specs right now.

Maybe there is a third force for CoreDuo.

well now we're talking

[central]

DFI: No comments... - But I hope your right, I've heard quite a bit of different things...

Yes, that's the first Statement i heard about a i975 mobo from DFI. Here the Link (bad Google translation) to the news from DFI what they said to the People from Hardwareluxx at Cebit.

[wwwww]

Why can't Asus make a real Yonah boad...

...

But DFI shouldn't be that bad...my last DFI Intel board was a lump of **** and costed more than A$400... Let's hope this is a bit better (given 975X I don't doubt it).

[dinos22]

you should update your database in the sig....with yonahs and meroms

btw guys did any of you see what mikeguava is about to get forget Yonah he's getting the next gen

[dinos22]

besides superpi what makes yonah better to dual core AMD again? they seem to be slower clock for clock with AMD 1MB cache equivalent right?

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2648

[hipro5]

besides superpi what makes yonah better to dual core AMD again? they seem to be slower clock for clock with AMD 1MB cache equivalent right?

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2648

Yea right.....Just wait and see.......!.......

[dinos22]

Yea right.....Just wait and see.......!.......

unless the new i975X platform gives it a boost..................and hopefully no cold bug

[kyosen]

I received mine this morning!!!
Many thanks to freecableguy, and also to PRTeamJapan/Fredyama

Here in Akiba/Japan, it's expected that MSI's "945GT Speedster Plus" will be released
in next week...on 23th or so.
Release date/Availabltity of AOpen's i975mb is not clear...

[stummerwinter]

Maybe you have allready seen, what is possible:

T2600 3 GHz @ Aopen i975Xa: 1M 19,953 s

I think, a new age starts at SuperPi...

Hope to get the AOpen next week, but I have only a T2400 (up to now)...

[wwwww]

besides superpi what makes yonah better to dual core AMD again? they seem to be slower clock for clock with AMD 1MB cache equivalent right?

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2648

They used a 166FSB and probably a crappy chipset, and crap mem (remember crap DDR2 is really crap).

Pump it to 266FSB, 975X, some Fatsos.

Not to mention the power consumption...

[dinos22]

They used a 166FSB and probably a crappy chipset, and crap mem (remember crap DDR2 is really crap).

Pump it to 266FSB, 975X, some Fatsos.

Not to mention the power consumption...

what's that

[dinos22]

Maybe you have allready seen, what is possible:

T2600 3 GHz @ Aopen i975Xa: 1M 19,953 s

I think, a new age starts at SuperPi...

Hope to get the AOpen next week, but I have only a T2400 (up to now)...

damn it i want to see 32M runs

[stummerwinter]

Up to now I didn´t saw a 32M-screenie...

Here: 2 x Prime @ 3 GHz @ 1,5 V (CPU-Z gave wrong results) with passiv cooling...

The biggest problems seems to be the BIOS, very buggy...

[wwwww]

what's that

A mem chip from Micron, usually do at least DDR666 3-2-2 or DDR1000 5-4-4.

[dinos22]

A mem chip from Micron, usually do at least DDR666 3-2-2 or DDR1000 5-4-4.

DDR666 3-2-2 faints

writes down in his black book to get the Micron chips

[dinos22]

Up to now I didn´t saw a 32M-screenie...

Here: 2 x Prime @ 3 GHz @ 1,5 V (CPU-Z gave wrong results) with passiv cooling...

The biggest problems seems to be the BIOS, very buggy...

what is buggy with the bios..................

[M.Beier]

Maybe you have allready seen, what is possible:

T2600 3 GHz @ Aopen i975Xa: 1M 19,953 s

I think, a new age starts at SuperPi...

Hope to get the AOpen next week, but I have only a T2400 (up to now)...

Theres a german guy from XS thats done quite some tests, I think he did 18.813 sek with a bit sub 3ghz, with a sucky heatsink on a i975X AOpen, and it wasnt optimised he said...
The thing is, the CPU makes no heat, and this allows us to get like -175 loadtemps ON the CPU, instead of -120 / -140 which is normal for an FX CPU with LN2, but how it scales with cold, I do not know, but since IMC aint being used, no coldbug would appear theoreticly

[dinos22]

i read somewhere that motherboards themselves were cold bugging

[wwwww]

DDR666 3-2-2 faints

writes down in his black book to get the Micron chips

I find 5-2-2 @ DDR1000 much faster [that's what my 2 gigs do] (whether it can do that depends on the revision, they'll do 5-2-2, 4-4-4, 5-3-2 or 5-3-3 depending on the revision [maybe other settings but those are the only I've seen] @ the DDR1000 level).

People keep telling me they're dicontinued though. bh5 of today I guess...

[bigval]

I know hipro is going to rip this up! I cant wait to see these results.

[Salkcin]

I find 5-2-2 @ DDR1000 much faster [that's what my 2 gigs do] (whether it can do that depends on the revision, they'll do 5-2-2, 4-4-4, 5-3-2 or 5-3-3 depending on the revision [maybe other settings but those are the only I've seen] @ the DDR1000 level).

People keep telling me they're dicontinued though. bh5 of today I guess...

There seem to a lot difference between the Micron D9 fat body based memory. I've seen Corsair UL's, Mushkin XP's and the first OCZ EB's. They all seem to do 355-366MHz CAS3-2-2 @ 2,3v. The Corsair PC8000UL's I had did 480MHz CAS4-2-3-8 @2,3v (memtested for a lot of hours without error).
Other memory with Micron D9 fat body like Crucial, Patriot etc seems to top at 320-340MHz CAS3-2-2 and needs to go 5-5-5 for 500MHz.

I'm not sure, but that's the picture I got with the results I've seen untill now.

[wwwww]

There seem to a lot difference between the Micron D9 fat body based memory. I've seen Corsair UL's, Mushkin XP's and the first OCZ EB's. They all seem to do 355-366MHz CAS3-2-2 @ 2,3v. The Corsair PC8000UL's I had did 480MHz CAS4-2-3-8 @2,3v (memtested for a lot of hours without error).
Other memory with Micron D9 fat body like Crucial, Patriot etc seems to top at 320-340MHz CAS3-2-2 and needs to go 5-5-5 for 500MHz.

I'm not sure, but that's the picture I got with the results I've seen untill now.

Weird, none of my Fatso's would like tRcd of 5 or tRP of 5. They wouldn't post at all. 5-4-4 to 5-2-2 worked fine though at the DDR1000 level.

There's some dude in the bandwidth section who made 400MHz 3-2-2 @ 2.4V or so...amazing!

In 4-2-3-8, which is the tRCD and which is tRP?

Actually, I have never tested my 2nd pair alone...they may be better than my first, my first wouldn't do stock speeds of 3-2-2 @ 337MHz @ 2.1V, it needed at least 2.15V to do that.

I'll try them alone when my new mobo arrives.

[Waus-mod]

Dfi = 945 chipset same as asus. I really dont think the "normal" makers for enthousaist is gonna build a 975 chipset for core duo, coz this market is to small!

Thats why i think aopen and ecs are grabbing there change (and i like it).