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    If you installed Win7 in IDE mode, do you have to do a reinstall to get the AHCI drivers working?

    I found some guide on how to get the AHCI drivers working after an install in IDE mode, but that was written for XP in 2007. Not to mention I get lots of BSOD's when switching to AHCI mode. http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=106575.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by v0dka View Post
    If you installed Win7 in IDE mode, do you have to do a reinstall to get the AHCI drivers working?
    No. You can modify the registry to enable ACHI mode. I've already posted how this can be done somewhere...just search the forum or google it

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    Received yesterday. Flashed the firmware, and installed Win7.



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    Quote Originally Posted by audienceofone View Post
    Go to the device manager. Select IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers. If you see Standard AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller then you are using the correct MS driver to enable auto TRIM.

    If not you can uninstall the Intel controll drivers and when you reboot the standard MS drivers should install.
    With the x58/ i7 I don't have a ATA/ATAPI controller. So, I will be using the tool till Intel gets it together. I am using the Intel Rapid Storage Technology 9.5.0.1037. That is the Matrix Storage Manager with a new GUI.






    http://cid-e878665d2e592e77.skydrive...9.5.0.1037.zip
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    Since installing the MS AHCI driver, Windows doesn't think my DVDRW can burn DVD's anymore? It recognizes it as a DVD-RW but burning software will say its not compatible. Any ideas?
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    I thought I was running in AHCI mode, but I am not sure anymore..

    I have "SATA AHCI Mode" Enabled, but "Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode "IDE". Am I running under IDE or AHCI?


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    Quote Originally Posted by ghmz View Post
    I thought I was running in AHCI mode, but I am not sure anymore..

    I have "SATA AHCI Mode" Enabled, but "Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode "IDE". Am I running under IDE or AHCI?

    You probably have 2 SATA controllers, one from SB and one Secondary onboard. See your board's manual to find which setting reffers to each one.

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    No problem using the new f/w update via bootable CD on x58.
    Could NOT get the f/w app to find the x25-mg2 on evga 680i for some unknown reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by v0dka View Post
    If you installed Win7 in IDE mode, do you have to do a reinstall to get the AHCI drivers working?
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922976

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveRo View Post
    No problem using the new f/w update via bootable CD on x58.
    Could NOT get the f/w app to find the x25-mg2 on evga 680i for some unknown reason.
    I just tried the 02HD firmware on my P5K Deluxe (P35) The CD booted without issue but then went on to say it could not detect my 160GB G2...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stems View Post
    I just tried the 02HD firmware on my P5K Deluxe (P35) The CD booted without issue but then went on to say it could not detect my 160GB G2...
    Set the drive to IDE mode (for the flash only)
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckbam View Post
    Set the drive to IDE mode (for the flash only)
    I'll give that a shot and report results! Thanks.

    EDIT: Worked perfectly, thank you.
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    I flashed mine in AHCI mode with no dramas. The Intel documentation makes no mention of using IDE mode?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcl View Post
    I flashed mine in AHCI mode with no dramas. The Intel documentation makes no mention of using IDE mode?
    It is in the Readme.txt

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    * 1. REQUIREMENTS FOR USING THE FIRMWARE(FW) UPDATE TOOL
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    Intel strongly recommends that you backup your SSD before
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    1. "Drive not recognized" on Nvidia chipset based Macintosh systems
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    WORKAROUND:
    For best compatibility, configure the BIOS SATA port mode to
    The "Legacy" or "Compatibility" mode to perform the firmware upgrade


    3. RAID Configurations
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    Go into the BIOS and disable RAID mode, using "Legacy" or
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    4. MSI K9A2 Motherboard
    ISSUE: The SATA SSD Firmware Update Tool cannot detect SSDs on ports
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    . Only ports 1 & 2 are visible to the tool.
    WORKAROUND:
    Move your SSD to port 1 or 2 before running the update process


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    * 3. INSTRUCTIONS ON UPDATING THE FIRMWARE
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    1. Load the .ISO image onto a blank CD-R using a CD-ROM Burning
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    2. Ensure the Intel SSD is attached to a SATA port in the system.
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    the firmware. For more details, consult your system technical
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    6. Power on your system and the update process begins.
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    Ahh got it. It doesn't necessarily state to put it in IDE mode though.

    This tool will only function correctly with the BIOS SATA ports
    configured to "Legacy" / "Compatibility" mode, or "AHCI" mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcl View Post
    Ahh got it. It doesn't necessarily state to put it in IDE mode though.
    It is the same thing. I depends on what your bios calls it. They are using a generic term. Most modern bios call it IDE mode because that is what it emulates.
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    How do I know if trim is enabled?
    Below from left to right 2xacardR0, x25m-g2, mtron mobi all on evga 680i, w7.
    Does the nvidia controller pass the trim command?


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    ^ There is no way of telling if trim is working (unless you benchmark to see if the drives performance has degraded).

    Trim will be working automatically however if you are using the ACHI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller driver that came with Win 7.

    Win 7 optimisations that were supposed to have occurred automatically do not happen (Defrag etc). I don’t know if that is a Win 7 or Intel issue.

    If you are not using the ACHI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller driver, i.e. you are using Intel or Nvidia chips in ACHI mode trim will only work via the toolbox. (Which has been pulled because it deleted system restore points. No eta on a new version as of yet).

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    What exactly is the benefit of the Intel Matrix Storage Driver?

    Are we giving up performance on our other drives by not using it in favour of the MS one for TRIM?
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    ^ I’ve ran benchmarks with the native AHCI drivers, Intel Matrix Storage Drivers and Intel Rapid Storage Technology drivers and they all have around the same performance. The Rapid Storage drivers are currently beta, but they edged out in front on performance, but nothing of any significance.
    It doesn’t really matter which drivers you are using if you use the Intel Toolbox to run trim once a day. You can do it manually, which takes a couple of seconds or you can schedule it to occur at a set time.

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    After updating my 160GB G2 to the 02HD firmware (thanks for the help; see post(s) above) I got a pretty nice performance boost!


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    I found this on the Intel Forum.
    Anyone else who has a Gen1 Drive and feels slightly miffed about us being left behind on Firmware Updates. Click here and sign the Petition
    John
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    i updated bought of my G2, raid0
    Last edited by icywater; 12-08-2009 at 04:45 PM.

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    Writes looking a little low there, buddy (except for 4k).
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    Yeah, the Seq and 512K writes should be in the 200's at least.

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