UnOfficial Asus Rampage II Extreme Thread

[BustaH]

Thanks both of you, I did thank you both for your efforts on more than one occasion up to now.

Though I have no way of testing your theory right now dejaneh.
The reason Im so convinced the board is my issue is that both the 940 and 920 fall over at exactly the same point on this board, as I said I cant test the 920 with this bios cos Its gone to less demanding user.

It could I suppose be a fluke I have two chips falling at the same hurdle...But.. my friend had a 920 from the same tray/batch as mine and clocked it up to 4.6 on an msi eclipse, now if that isnt rubbing salt into the wound I dont know what is.

Any way, im gonna try and get hold of another 920, if I can get a proven one then ill know for sure if this board is the problem or not.
I can run a couple of bench apps at 200x21 ht on but even that is flaky, 22 multi on this 940 is a no go period, at least at any speed worth wanting.

auto- forget it, unless i want to run low clocks which completely defeats the object.

[If6was9]

Therefore, it is appropriate update to the new bios?

[PalmeAsus]

This didnt fix my cold boot issue when qpi set higher than around 1.48 v =( Im starting to think that my psu is the problem or cpu but i dont know =( im gonna test with some other mems next week .

The wierd thing is that it boots below 1.45-1.47 but it's unstable from coldboot even with standard qpi settning and this problem is pissing me off =/

[cstkl1]

This didnt fix my cold boot issue when qpi set higher than around 1.48 v =( Im starting to think that my psu is the problem or cpu but i dont know =( im gonna test with some other mems next week .

The wierd thing is that it boots below 1.45-1.47 but it's unstable from coldboot even with standard qpi settning and this problem is pissing me off =/

for qpi voltage
the stability depends on the ioh/ich pair

for me atleast

[PalmeAsus]

What qpi volt and ioh are you using ? but since it's unstable from coldboot with standard settnings i dont think it's the problem =/

[dejanh]

Thanks both of you, I did thank you both for your efforts on more than one occasion up to now.

Though I have no way of testing your theory right now dejaneh.
The reason Im so convinced the board is my issue is that both the 940 and 920 fall over at exactly the same point on this board, as I said I cant test the 920 with this bios cos Its gone to less demanding user.

It could I suppose be a fluke I have two chips falling at the same hurdle...But.. my friend had a 920 from the same tray/batch as mine and clocked it up to 4.6 on an msi eclipse, now if that isnt rubbing salt into the wound I dont know what is.

Any way, im gonna try and get hold of another 920, if I can get a proven one then ill know for sure if this board is the problem or not.
I can run a couple of bench apps at 200x21 ht on but even that is flaky, 22 multi on this 940 is a no go period, at least at any speed worth wanting.

auto- forget it, unless i want to run low clocks which completely defeats the object.

The first 940 I had could not clock past 3.8GHz and it would run extremely hot, like 90C+ hot at just 3.8GHz. The second 940 I had would clock to 4.0GHz with relatively low temps but very high voltages. The third 940 I have now clocks past 4.2GHz with relatively low voltages but high temperatures again.

So all in all, three chips, three different stories completly.

And I would say that all 920 are rubbing salt into our wounds because they clock as good or better than 940/965 There are even 965s that cannot clock past 3.8GHz (yes, believe me I know of some).

[BustaH]

The first 940 I had could not clock past 3.8GHz and it would run extremely hot, like 90C+ hot at just 3.8GHz. The second 940 I had would clock to 4.0GHz with relatively low temps but very high voltages. The third 940 I have now clocks past 4.2GHz with relatively low voltages but high temperatures again.

So all in all, three chips, three different stories completly.

And I would say that all 920 are rubbing salt into our wounds because they clock as good or better than 940/965 There are even 965s that cannot clock past 3.8GHz (yes, believe me I know of some).

So basically it renders the x22 and auto multi on 940 pretty much useless in terms of overclocking.
I should be getting another 920 tommorow or saturday to try, not sure if I should keep this 940 till intel release the 950 and send it back to them, as technically it doesnt function as its designed to.

Its a bit like buying a 100 watt lightbulb that only gives 70w power worth of light.
but then they would be covered because its runs at rated speed.

Oh the joys of chasing rainbows!

[nuclearjock]

Bios 1104

Fix can't enter OS if use over 4GB RAM and Vista 64bit together with 2 pcs of GTX295 VGA card.

This is goofy...

I'm on bios 0903.

I have 3x2gb ram and 2 x GTX 295's and Vista 64 and never had a problem....

Go figure.

[dejanh]

So basically it renders the x22 and auto multi on 940 pretty much useless in terms of overclocking.
I should be getting another 920 tommorow or saturday to try, not sure if I should keep this 940 till intel release the 950 and send it back to them, as technically it doesnt function as its designed to.

Its a bit like buying a 100 watt lightbulb that only gives 70w power worth of light.
but then they would be covered because its runs at rated speed.

Oh the joys of chasing rainbows!

Yeah, basically. I am keeping my 940, though there is a good chance that I may jump to the 950 once it is released for one reason....

The fact that they would EOL 940s so soon after release reeks of issues that they are aware of but do not want to state.

I am covered for three years after all.

[OcAddict]

Anybody tried with disabled CPU Turbo Power Limit and a I-920, if Turbo-Multi 21 works when Vcore higher than 1,35V?

First off all many thx to dejanh and cstkl1 for calling and mailing with ASUS for the TDP/TDC problem. I'm currently running on the 1104 bios and it kicks ass

[scaramonga]

I'm currently running on the 1104 bios and it kicks ass

In what way?

Oh.....and a big thx to dejanh and cstkl1!!!, nice one guys, for getting ASUS to move their ass!

[OcAddict]

In what way?

Oh.....and a big thx to dejanh and cstkl1!!!, nice one guys, for getting ASUS to move their ass!

In the way that the multi doesn't clock back to 20 if you run Prime95 with HT on!!!

[chayos00]

Thanks guys! I like this new BIOS. Recently my OC with this board has become obviously unstable so I've had to back off from my 200x20. But so far I'm able to do 191x21 for about the same CPU speed.

Finally Asus listed to us and heard our complaints and fixed something. Now I just hope they work on that stupid "cold boot" issue!!!



Jason

[scaramonga]

In the way that the multi doesn't clock back to 20 if you run Prime95 with HT on!!!

HT is a permanent OFF for me now. It shows practically no gain having it enabled (lets be honest, nothing really uses it) and generates way too much heat for what little it does

Even higher clocks can also be achieved with it off My 4 cores will do, I'll skip the virtual.

[T_Flight]

Anybody got linkage to the 1104? It's not up on the official site. I just went there.

[T_Flight]

HT is a permanent OFF for me now. It shows practically no gain having it enabled (lets be honest, nothing really uses it) and generates way too much heat for what little it does

Even higher clocks can also be achieved with it off My 4 cores will do, I'll skip the virtual.

I think you just don't have the programs to take advantage of it. Almost every intensive application I use (where you NEED the power) takes advantage of it, and it's no small gain either...it cuts times in half and on some apps 1/3 the time. It is a *substantial* gain.

I have never understood why people buy a system like this and then cripple it. You are not gaining anything by turning it off. Yeah, you're increasing clocks, but still loosing performance. A 1 step forward two steps back kind of thing. If you didn;t need the threads to begin with why buy an i7? It's like buying a ferrari but saying I'm only gonna use 1 and second gear...the gains from the other gears are marginal.

[chayos00]

Anybody got linkage to the 1104? It's not up on the official site. I just went there.

Here ya go

1104 Bios

[scaramonga]

I think you just don't have the programs to take advantage of it. Almost every intensive application I use (where you NEED the power) takes advantage of it, and it's no small gain either...it cuts times in half and on some apps 1/3 the time. It is a *substantial* gain.

I have never understood why people buy a system like this and then cripple it.

Name them?

Utter rubbish! Tell me of any application/game that uses 4 cores + 4 virtual?

The intensive Photoshop 4 has implemented GPU usage, but I don't see it even using the best of 2 cores, never mind anything else, apart from RAM.

Cripple?........lol, what nonsense

[crazyea]

Since you only asked for one, Everest Benchmarks....LOL

Other than that, not much it seems......

http://ixbtlabs.com/articles3/cpu/ci7-turbo-ht-p1.html

[scaramonga]

Since you only asked for one, Everest Benchmarks....LOL

Other than that, not much it seems......

Apart from benchmarking utils.......lmao

[dejanh]

...snip...

If you didn;t need the threads to begin with why buy an i7? It's like buying a ferrari but saying I'm only gonna use 1 and second gear...the gains from the other gears are marginal.

Why not? You can use the 1st and 2nd gear to be the fastest off the line j/k

I could not resist

[scaramonga]

Why not? You can use the 1st and 2nd gear to be the fastest off the line j/k

I could not resist

Yeah. I seem to remember (giving away my age now lol) we used to have 'turbo' buttons on front of our PC's (I may be going back too far now lol) but, if you needed it, you hit the button

When I need it, I'll hit the button (the un-cripple one)

[crazyea]

Apart from benchmarking utils.......lmao

OK, lets be fair then, divx, h.264, winrar, rendering progs, etc.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...m,2057-12.html

[scaramonga]

OK, lets be fair then, divx, h.264, winrar, rendering progs, etc.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...m,2057-12.html

The 'minuses' outway the 'pluses' on that list, for me anyway

[crazyea]

me too. just saying though.....