Bloodrage G32 bios released

[Trembledust]

I mentioned those specific multi's as they are prooven to increase bclk limit on the blood rage. As I said you can turn on turbo to bring your true multi back to 21x, but if you try 18x or 19x as the set cpu multi you should gain a few bclk.

What temps are you at btw? If they're below 85 under prime95 just keep adding voltage. Some chips dont heat up as much as others at the same voltage. My 950 @ 4.675 / 1.48v runs cooler than my 920 @ 4.4ghz 1.45v.

Also some cpus just dont like a high uncore combined with high cpu core, hence my suggestion to go to 6x mem /12x uncore.

Just work out which particular part of the chip is failing and then youll know what to adjust.

You should be fine up to +350mv / 340mv on water or +250mv / +300mv on air. Above that temps will probably get lairy.

Thanks for the advice.

I tried lowering the multi's. No go. The thing is I can boot into windows, do a few things, run vantage, play games, but passing prime...no go.

Question. Is that your 24/7 oc settings? @ 4.4ghz., and 4.6ghz. My friend's oc is similar. He's running 4.4ghz but using 1.5v for vcore, and he has HTT enabled. He also is on the G32 bios, and his chip is a C0. When I heard that u see why I was like WTF with my D0 chip.

With my Swiftech GTZ block I never broke 80c under load. With the Extreme XT I barely break 70c. I idle in the low 40's. I ruled overheating out as a possible cause of OC not passing Prime.

Main reason I changed from a C0 to a D0 was cause I wanted to use less volts hence bring my temps down. With my old C0 I needed 1.4v to hit 4.2ghz stable with HTT off. With HTT on? I needed 1.5v easy.

I'll keep trying though. Thanks again for the advice. I'll keep u posted but that W3520 is in my newegg wishlist just incase lol. Be funny if I end up getting the Xeon and it turns out to be a bad chip lol. Wait no that wouldnt be funny lol.

[rolodomo]

My 920 D0 needs 1.4 to reach 4.2 HT Off. I increased my BCLK wall from 205 to 223 by going to a set 19x multi, but I had to significantly change other voltage settings (i.e., basically redo the overclock). I posted the settings in the pinned BIOS thread. Except for tightening memory to CAS 5 at 1300 approx., that's where I've been ever since 24/7.

If your maxing out at 3.8 stable, that's a highly valuable O/C IMO (e.g., an i7 975 for $1000 runs at 3.33 stock).

[To(V)bo Co(V)bo]

Thanks for the advice.

I tried lowering the multi's. No go. The thing is I can boot into windows, do a few things, run vantage, play games, but passing prime...no go.

Question. Is that your 24/7 oc settings? @ 4.4ghz., and 4.6ghz. My friend's oc is similar. He's running 4.4ghz but using 1.5v for vcore, and he has HTT enabled. He also is on the G32 bios, and his chip is a C0. When I heard that u see why I was like WTF with my D0 chip.

With my Swiftech GTZ block I never broke 80c under load. With the Extreme XT I barely break 70c. I idle in the low 40's. I ruled overheating out as a possible cause of OC not passing Prime.

Main reason I changed from a C0 to a D0 was cause I wanted to use less volts hence bring my temps down. With my old C0 I needed 1.4v to hit 4.2ghz stable with HTT off. With HTT on? I needed 1.5v easy.

I'll keep trying though. Thanks again for the advice. I'll keep u posted but that W3520 is in my newegg wishlist just incase lol. Be funny if I end up getting the Xeon and it turns out to be a bad chip lol. Wait no that wouldnt be funny lol.

What other hardware do you have in the system? Maybe something is holding you back like dual video cards or a soundcard. Try upping the northbridge voltage a little. Some DO chips max out at 4.2 with ht. What batch?

[PiLsY]

Yeah theyre my day to day overclocks. I run sli which limits my bclk to about 204 24/7 stable, exactly the same as you dude. If I remove a vid card I can get way over that. That's what made me save up for a 950, low bclk high multi.

I have a suspicion a lot of the huge bclk overclocks you see arent what many people would call stable.


My particular 950 clocks to 4ghz HT on 4.2ghz HT off at default volts. However to run a decent mem speed I need to raise uncore - and the uncore on this cpu sucks. I need +240mv to get 3248mhz uncore stable and +380mv to get 4080mhz stable. Because my cpu is only stable with vcore +- 0.05v vtt when overclocked I have to raise my vcore to +220mv when using 8x mem 16x uncore for stability, even though the cpu core doesnt need it.

Also I find 4675mhz cpu @1250mhz c6 memory gives me the same benchmarks roughly as 4600mhz cpu @ 2000mhz c8 memory. Was surprised memory and uncore has so little effect compared to cpu mhz.

[Trembledust]

What other hardware do you have in the system? Maybe something is holding you back like dual video cards or a soundcard. Try upping the northbridge voltage a little. Some DO chips max out at 4.2 with ht. What batch?

Yea I figured its possible other elements besides processor and ram maybe contributing to my oc being limited. But my chip maxes at 4.2ghz it seems w/ HTT off. That's wats making me go huh?

I'm running 2 285's in sli with moderate overclock 700/1550/1220. I also have a X-Fi Titanium card in my rig. I have the IOH at like 1.26v. I'll try upping it.

It sounds like my chip is actually ok just not for 24/7 usage from what I am reading so far. I'm mainly a gamer so honestly if my rig passes Vantage im good.

But again i'll keep trying. Maybe a new chip will be in the work. I like comparing diff hardware so no biggie. Thanks again for the feedback. I'll keep u posted on what I find out.

Oh my batch number is 3901A257

[Trembledust]

Yeah theyre my day to day overclocks. I run sli which limits my bclk to about 204 24/7 stable, exactly the same as you dude. If I remove a vid card I can get way over that. That's what made me save up for a 950, low bclk high multi.

I have a suspicion a lot of the huge bclk overclocks you see arent what many people would call stable.


My particular 950 clocks to 4ghz HT on 4.2ghz HT off at default volts. However to run a decent mem speed I need to raise uncore - and the uncore on this cpu sucks. I need +240mv to get 3248mhz uncore stable and +380mv to get 4080mhz stable. Because my cpu is only stable with vcore +- 0.05v vtt when overclocked I have to raise my vcore to +220mv when using 8x mem 16x uncore for stability, even though the cpu core doesnt need it.

Also I find 4675mhz cpu @1250mhz c6 memory gives me the same benchmarks roughly as 4600mhz cpu @ 2000mhz c8 memory. Was surprised memory and uncore has so little effect compared to cpu mhz.

Yea I thought the same @ ppl consider stable. Truth be told I rarely use to run Prime to stability check with my rigs. Again if I saw it passed Vantage i'd be like cool she's good. I just recently got obsesses with Prime cause of the gaming droubt. Boredom's a bastard lol

I have seen set ups similar to mine achieving higher OC's with Prime results posted as proof but again...luck of the draw u know? Sometimes u get a good chip...sometimes u get a so so chip. It happens. I noticed higher mem mhz dont necessarily equally greater stability and speed with I7's.

Yea I'll try popping out one of my cards and seeing if that makes a diff. Probably will lol. Thanks again for the tips.

[Gre4ka]

have a lof of issues with p08-p09-g32 bioses

it loses 2Gb of 6Gb of memory on 8x memory multiplier
xeon 3520 + foxconn bloodrage gti + 6Gb (3x2) Geil Evo One PC16000 (9-9-9-28-2N) kit
even it don't works on the x10 multiplier - can't get it stable - there was 3 CPU's already on this board - 940, 950 and the Xeon now.
i can run memtest for hours, and so on, but get bluescreens in 3d applications and internet surfing for example.
the only usable memory multi is 6x
what it can be? board? or memory? checked the s1366 pins - all is fine - all in place and not damaged.
tryed all possible combinations of voltages and other settings - nothing helps.

measured all voltages with multimeter - all is fine and stable.
for example +540 on VTT gives me 1.65v on VTT.

should i try to change memory? geil blocks SPD flashing - so i can't try another spd (from Dominator GT or kingston hyper-x). also i don't know what memory chips in my sticks installed - can't remove the radiator - sits very well heating it don't helps. Also i noticed that all major memory modules manufacturers never posts in compatibility lists foxconn production - only asus, gigabyte, evga. sometimes msi.

upd: decided to test my old corsair XMS Platinum 3x1 Gb 1600-9-9-9 - and... only 2 of 3 sticks works. in any mode the mobo detects only 2Gb - EVEN on full stock speeds. 6/8/10/12/14x - no way.
memory is 100% verified and works good - tested on 775 and 1366 another mobo (gigabyte) - all detects correctly and works in any multiplier.
stick my Geil back, all stock speeds (no overclock) - and it detects 6Gb with 6-8-10 multi without any problem... but when bclk at 200+ it starts to make some crap. 8x stops working, 10x works randomly and periodically losts 1 stick and only usable is 6x with funny 1200-1300Mhz
so... i don't know what to say, but what memory is usable on foxconn mobo (in overclock mode of cource) ?
it's not the memory and the CPU issues anyway. only mobo can produce this glitches in my case.

also lost the ability to control the turbomode. after flashing to G32 - option just dissapear. Now testing P07 - flashed both bioses, make battery and cmos reset and... it's not in place! no option to control turbomode

[Mescalamba]

Try high tRFC (89+) plus have you tried higher VTT and vDIMM? I mean, really higher.. I need 1.45V VTT and 1.75V vDIMM to run my specs (1600 CL8). Btw. I had G.Skill before it seriously bottlenecked my OC, before I released tRFC a lot. And even then, not that stable as I have it now. Maybe mobo doesn´t like anything except Hypers and Microns.

[faria]

Try high tRFC (89+) plus have you tried higher VTT and vDIMM? I mean, really higher.. I need 1.45V VTT and 1.75V vDIMM to run my specs (1600 CL8). Btw. I had G.Skill before it seriously bottlenecked my OC, before I released tRFC a lot. And even then, not that stable as I have it now. Maybe mobo doesn´t like anything except Hypers and Microns.

I only need 100mv+ on vtt to get 1600mhz cl6 stable. But have the same here, cold boot only detects 4gb. (Memory problem)

[Gre4ka]

test all reasonable combinations.
TRFC on 110 permanently - if i lowering it - mobo sometimes can't start or geting random glitches. May be it wan't TRFC at 500? all perfomance will be lost. so it's not right way.
VTT - tryed up to 1.65V (+540) and 1.65-1.75 for mem.
memory default specs is 2000-9-9-9-27-2N 1.65V - it works well on 2000-8-8-8-24-1N with the same 1.65V
it's possible on Elpida chips (non hyper) or Samsung. Possible samsung, because it don't likes the 7-7-7 even on 1600. But there is no difference - cl8 or 9. really looks like samsung. but a piece of chips that i can see under heat spreader looks like something else... o_O
also i remember that samsung likes high TRFC. Micron and Elpida as i know - not.

Also changed the Radeon 4870x2 on 285GTX x2 in SLI. and now can't get CPU stable on that speeds, that was possible with Radeon. OMG.
get bluescreen in 3d on 4400 HT off (210x21, 1.42v idle, 1.45v load), earlier i need only 1.4v for this speed and it was rock stable (also many other parameters was on default or in auto).
all bumped out - IOH core up to 1.3v, analog part to 1.2v, ioh pci-e = 1.6, sb pci-e v = 1.6
tryed different scews - 100,200 and combinations. Different amplitude, 700-800-900-1000. nothing helps.
really weak...

[Mescalamba]

Hm, you have GTi. Not classical BR (but it should be same). Plus Xeon (which isnt exactly best for memory OC). Btw. when you increase VTT, you should keep vDIMM in correct ratio (no more than 0.5V difference, but NOT less than 0.3V difference). Running VTT and vDIMM on same volts gave me serious stability issues.

Amplitude helps with high BCLK, nothing else.

What GTX285 it is exactly? (brand) Tried with only one? SLi can give problems, usually when one VGA isnt perfect, or system isnt stable enough.. Could be Enermax PSU too (there are evidently some issues with them and BR, or maybe just with them).

BloodRage is memory sensitive mobo (PSU too).. if you got crap memory, you have problem. I had G.Skills before and now I would get only Elpida Hypers or Microns, nothing else.. Need of high tRFC is pointing towards memory incompatibility issue. My tRFC is now 59 and I can go lower, if I want.. Anything bellow 89 was impossible with G.Skills before. And getting stable 200 too. Now I can just switch BCLK to 200 and it works, without any tuning. And my memory was cheapest kit available.

I would try higher tRFC than you have.. 200+

If it works, your memory is crap, sir.

[Gre4ka]

btw only Xeon allowed me to run memory on 2000 with vtt 1.45 (not stable - just boot 2 win7 and some simple tests, but it looks like that it need only 1.5-1.55 on vtt 2 memory work on 2000 and the uncore 4000), previous 920 c0 - 2pcs, 940, 950 wont' work even with 3Gb (3x1) with VTT up to 1.65 (950 on this mobo and 920-940 on some asus boards). So it looks pretty good for me.

when you increase VTT, you should keep vDIMM in correct ratio (no more than 0.5V difference, but NOT less than 0.3V difference). Running VTT and vDIMM on same volts gave me serious stability issues.

about 0.5v - i know, old story, but 0.3v... hmm? is it bloodrage specific? As i know many 2000 memory have an XMP profiles with a 1.65V VTT and 1.65V on mem settings - so virtually 0v difference.
2 keep 0.3v on 2000 i need at least 1.85 on mem or even more. My mem as i noticed don't like anymore than 1.7-1.75 and goes hot as hell. really wonder what is the chips could be in it.

285 - Zotac's reference cards (rev.2) not overclocked - just in stock now. on stock (cpu/mem) they passes any tests. They are also watercooled - swiftech mcw-60r and their passive fullboard heatsinks.
I wan't 2 use sli anyway. it's more important then 5-10mhz on bclk. Also some another top mobo's don't have any issues - 1-2-3-4 cards are installed (classified).
i buy this enermax after a several months after it appeared. heard about some problems with first revisions of this psu and the early revisions of classified. but as i know that was solved succesfully.
voltages are good and stable.

about memory - it's really. i understand this after corsair xms testing. I could try Elpida (can take Patriot Viper II for a reasonoble price) but i'm not sure - should I. Because memory is not the only issue want high bclk's - 220+ with sli and other stuff. Now i can get 219x21 work - boot 2 win, but it fails under highload - linpack (linx) and so on. 4500 (214x21) may work, but i'am not sure. Now testing the 4200 HT off with P09 bios and the memory at 1600-8-8-8-24-1N-110
about TRFC - this value (110) is default and written in SPD of my memory - for 2000 profile. For 1333-7-7-7 it set as 74.

fun things noticed. i saved some results from 3dmark2006 and link (gflops) from G32 bios and 4200 HT off overclock (mem was on 12xx-8-8-8)
in 3dmark it was always around 6800-6850 for 4200 HT off. Now on P09 i can get only ~6600 (stable and repeatedly). so the G32 "faster".
Also i get about 1Gflops better results with G32 in linx. Tryed 2 play with voltages and other stuff to identify the source of lower perfomance - but noway. Just bios i think.

Should the bloodrage allow both high bclk overclock (at least 200) and memory up to 2000 all together? Or things on this board can be overclocked only separately? for example - 4200-4400 on cpu with low mem 1200-1600 or stock-3200-3600 on cpu and high (1800-2000) memory overclocks? Can we get 4200-4400 CPU AND 2000 on memory for example? (also not with a khm NV 8600GT in pci-e slot, but with a 2 high end card at least). Is it capable 2 do it? Or it's really mobo complex issue...

[Mescalamba]

CSX OC report thread

Just take a look, its definetly possible. I managed to get 2100 from them, but forget to validate CPU-Z.

As much as I remember, I had even stability issues after OCing with my previous memory. I cant say that 100%, but your problems can actually be caused by that too..

BR ofc should be capable of handling SLi. I think someone on forum runs 2x HD 4870X2 on that.

About Enermax, some like it, some not.. some say its great, some that its not so great. Im sticking to CWT and Seasonic, havent failed me yet, which cant be said about few others manufacturers (and no, not with this mobo..).

Zotac is quite good brand, so I guess your VGA is fine.

Wish I could help you somehow, but except testing another memory kit.. I have no idea. If want to have some "sure" OC, get some Micron (or good speced Elpida Hyper or BBSE).

[PiLsY]

I could only get 200bclk with sli on the EX58-UD3R, and then only with 6x or 8x mem and 1:2 uncore.

On BR I can run up to 203bclk with lower voltages and can use 10x mem and uncore (tho lots of volts is needed).


Single card 218bclk stable is no problem, however my memory isnt stable over 2075mhz anyway so its unuseable bclk. Infact my best memory speed is 7-8-7 1920mhz - trouble is ive no good cpu speed there as my cpu core doesnt clock well between 193 and 199bclk with turbo on.


Every i7 is different - you need to find out how it wants to run to get the speed out of it. Mine likes high core, low uncore and memory and low bclk. If I drop 400mhz cpu core I can keep memory and uncore stable at 2100mhz+. Can't run it all together though.

[Gre4ka]

thanks for help guys. so theory is real - more videocard and mem - lower bclk and cpu speed. on many boards through
can't decide what 2 do - get i7 950 for a good price OR get Patriot Viper II (elpida hyper) or Crucial (possible micron / maybe samsung) OR get another mobo (gigagyte UD7 - reports that handles bclk up 2 230-237 or classified, but classified for me is toooo risky and tooo long variant - because i need to order it from USA and if something goes wrong - RMA it back - it's long too and expensive).

testing second day the 200x21 combination with HT off and 8x mem (1600-8-8-8-24-1N-110). bumped all voltages for now. works well... no bluescreen
noticed that system will not boot up (cold boot) with PCI-E set to 103. but works with it after a settings apply, resets and fast power-off / power-on sessions. But if rig stays off for hour or more - it will not boot up. Only clear cmos helps
so maximum usable PCI-E is 102
ahhh hardmod needed (i wonder why foxconn didn't do it itself - so pci-e o/c could be usable "from the box")

[Mescalamba]

Heh, you can get Classified here (EU) if you want. It won´t be exactly cheap, but it will be quite without problem.. only downside will be shipping price.

If you want, I can get you same memory kit as I have, or something similar (OCZ 2000CL9 - Micron D9KPT?).

EVGA X58 Classified 4-Way SLI - 414 EUR/ 575 USD

EVGA X58 SLI Classified + ECP - 350 EUR/ 486 USD

OCZ 2000 CL 7-8-7-20 3x2GB 180 EUR/ 250 USD

Prices here..

Classy is good way to go, but even that have some issues, pretty much as all HW. I would try some chep Micron based memory and see if that helps. i7 950 is good idea, but if your bottlneck is memory, you'll be in same place after that..

[zalbard]

Btw. when you increase VTT, you should keep vDIMM in correct ratio (no more than 0.5V difference, but NOT less than 0.3V difference).

Pretty sure there's no such thing, man...

[Mescalamba]

Dunno, but it works for me and doesnt work if its less.

[Gre4ka]

Mescalamba
thanks for help, but if i decide 2 get classified i should order it from usa anyway - there it will be about 400$ for me and about 60$ shipment + no problem with customs fee. but i will think twice before going this way. due 2 possible waranty/rma troubles. it's too expensive and long way in case.

now decided to start from memory test and change.
yesterday get the Kingston HyperX T1 6Gb kit on hyper (2009 week 50 - freeeeshhhh) for a reasonoble price with moneyback - if it will be useless due 2 mobo.
and...
i'am not sure at all - need more testing, but mobo likes it ))
now using P09 bios, 200x21 with 1.4v on core (to be sure to test mem and not cores) with HT off. 8x mem multi (no problems with 4/6gb detection at all) and 1600-8-8-8-24-1N-60 TRFC settings. 1.62V on mem +240 on VTT
play 3d a half of night - no bluescreenes. get primed (large fft's 2048-4096) for a hour - no errors...
ahh it seemes that this mobo really loves only Elpida (base and hiper) and micron chips... my Geil possibly on Samsung (HCF0?) or something like that. It produces a lot of heat under memory stress tests - memory radiators goes really hot under heavy load. Goot head transfer and produce as well.
about TRFC in my new kit - by XMP - it is about 60 and lower only for 1600MHz and lower. At 2000 it preset in 110 in XMP profile. I should test it on 2000 with lower values, but... TRFC can't mark good/bad memory - because there is nothing better than Hyper on the market.
also want to test the bclk overclock with this mem - should things go better or not. but for me it's enough that i can use 4200-4400 stable with mem at 1600-6-6-6 or 7-7-7 or 2000 at 7-7-7 or 8-8-8. CPU is capable of uncore 4000 and more at reasonoble voltages, so now it's a time to retest the mobo capabilities

[Mescalamba]

Well, if you decide to switch to Classy, it likes Micron and Elpida Hypers/BBSE too. So should be ok. Glad to hear that it works as it should.

They have high tRFC for 2000 probably cause stability. I guess that higher volts should enable lower tRFC. Tough, no idea how much it survive..

[CobraXP]

Just installed G32. Going to test it more in the next few days. Had to raise vtt to 100 from 60 before. I ran a 5 run intel burn test just for a quick test run. I noticed my temps before were at 71c before now highest was 65c. I got little time these days but will test it more in the up coming days. Thx Mescalamba for a few heads up.

[Mescalamba]

You are welcome.. just trying to do my best. But dont rely on that too much.. every PC is unique.

[TheCh3F]

Can't wait to test this bios out. Thanks

[Mescalamba]

Hm.. got some wierd PC freezes (total freeze.. nothing except hard reboot helps). Tought it was memory.. nope. CPU stable.. everything stable.

Went back to P09 and since then.. no freeze.

[lysyn123]

In my theses are Freezes the BIOS G32. P09 bios is stable.

When is the new bios?