calling all crucial ballistix micron d9 experts

[RAMMAN]

i keep forgetting its an expensive cpu, since i got it for about the same price as a q9650 and most enthusiasts have moved on to i7 systems

edit: see the koolance pot in my avatar? i plan on doing some dry ice benching in the future but i must admit i do need something better than the stock cooler for 24/7

edit2: interesting, at 460mhz(920 effective) at 4-3-3-10 2.26v it locked up, not bluescreened thats usually caused by subtimings being too tight isnt it?

edit3: this is dissapointing, at 933 4-3-3-10 default subtimings 2.3v it bluescreened after super pi 1m finished but before i could save the result

edit4: keep in mind my 2x2gb ocz reaperX with powerchip ic's used to reach 1000 no problem with 5-5-5 timings, i dont have them anymore though

[Don_Dan]

Yeah, you really need something better for 24/7!

These kits need voltage to shine, 2.3V is rather low, but the board might be the culprit here, P35 aren't known for clocking the FSB of quads up.
If you want high FSB on your quad you'd have to go with the Gigabyte P45 UD3 series.

[RAMMAN]

im pretty sure its memory limitation not fsb limitation, i wouldnt be surprised if my memory clocked better on an asus board but i dont think its a fsb limitation here

one last option i could try is up the fsb and mch voltage by 0.1 but im not comfortable upping the ddr2 voltage beyond 2.3v

[RAMMAN]

i pretty much pulled out all the stops in my last run, at least by my standards anyway

everest.bmp (789 KB)

+0.1v fsb
+0.1v mch
+0.50v ddr2 (overvolts to 2.35v, nice to see it overvolts by 0.05 consistently even this high)
i even lowered multiplier to 8 to eliminate any possibility of the cpu limiting the overclock
946 4-3-3-12 default subtimings
i got greedy and tried to go from 394 to 396 to 398 to 400fsb with setfsb before trying another everest bench, it bluescreened soon after i set 400fsb

edit: memory speed seems to scale about 6.5 (13mhz effective) every time ddr2 voltage gets bumped up 0.05v. while it is possible i might have run into a fsb wall i doubt it and i will be sorely dissapointed if my board stops just short of 400 fsb. btw +0.50 ddr2 voltage is where it starts to flash red in bios, but i guess it was inevitable

edit2: for when i get my team xtreem 1300 i wonder if my board can handle running a different fsb/mem ratio. so it goes to 1066 when the fsb is at 333, its currently at 2.4 i guess that means i will have to change it to 3.2 if i want to have any chance of the new memory reaching anywhere near its potential. the board is rated for 1066 ram so my board should be able to run that ratio right?

[RAMMAN]

i changed the memory divider to 1:1 to test the fsb, its orthos stable at 400fsb so my board isnt limiting my fatbodies overclock, obviously team xtreem 1300s are a different story. only way to scale anywhere near that far is with 5:8 i think. im not game to raise the fsb further because even the highest fsb on hwbot with my board and cpu(or any quad and my board for that matter) is 413fsb, and when i get better cpu cooling i will just raise the cpu multi and change memory divider to go further. everest bandwidth will suffer due to low fsb but it cant be helped with this board

edit: heres a list of the best known results achieved on my board:

http://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboar...b=hall of fame

check #1 3dmark06, looks like my board+qx9650+dice has already been done, but theres still sub 10 sec super pi 1m(should be a cakewalk with my system+dice) and 100k 3dmark 01(very difficult, impossible with my current videocard i think.) pitty we dont get points for getting high scores on older boards.

[Don_Dan]

You'll need a better board to push your quad to high FSB and high memory, look for Gigabyte's UD3 series!

Or you can run your TG-sticks at low memory speed with tight timings, though high memory speed with looser timings will beat it bandwidth-wise.

[RAMMAN]

another way of really pushing team xtreem 1300 ram with this board is 2:3 ratio with 4-4-4 timings i think

1000 4-4-4-12 should work without having to go past 2.2-2.3v right?

then i can raise the fsb and see how close i can get to 1200 4-4-4 with higher voltage

edit: according to the #1 3dmark vantage score with my mobo on hwbot 1280 memory speed is possible with 5:8 memory divider with a quad, its just that with a quad im limited to 400fsb while with a dual 500+fsb is possible(with great difficulty).im definitaly not changing cpu, i need a quad for 3dmark06 and i will be needing the unlocked multiplier if im to have any hope of scaling to 4.5-5ghz on dice in the future anyway and i cant afford a new board atm.

edit2: i think if i was to get a new board i would be looking for an asus board with p45 chipset

[Don_Dan]

500Mhz CL4 is easy and should be doable with "low" volts, but 600MHz will require some serious increase in VDIMM I would not want to run 24/7.

Mate, you don't need another CPU, you need another board!

Try to get your RAM to 650+MHz CL5 and run a low PL, that should give you the best performance!

[RAMMAN]

i plan on dice benching early next year, im not exactly looking for 24/7 settings lol. though i do drop the ddr2 voltage back to 2.2v and fsb to the default 333 after every benchmarking attempt with my fatties atm

edit: so attempting to run ducks settings(but lower clocks obviously lol, and tighter performance level, and different memory divider and 2t due to my boards limitations) will just get me nowhere?

edit2: i figured if my board is going to stop me from reaching 1300 memory speed i might as well see what it can do with 4-4-4 timings, but i guess we will see what it can do when it arrives

[Don_Dan]

Okay, if it's a bench setup increase your VDIMM!

Don't try to replicate someone else's settings, use them as guideline but try to find out what your specific kit can or cannot do!
Until next year there's still enough time for some nice Memtesting hours...

[RAMMAN]

it is a bench setup on a budget, but a bench setup nonetheless. i pretty much spent it all between the qx9650 i got cheap and the team xtreem 1300. anyway i will be away for a couple of weeks.

edit: i can see where your coming from, i will have to agree running team xtreem 1300s with a 2 year old cheap gigabyte board is a travesty.

[tsubasa]

I will contribute it to this forum for the first time

Though there is not even a great record, it is reflected on AMD-40GP of Mr. tanuki

The tolerance of Ballistix of my possession is such a feeling by super pi mod time

Ballistix PC5300 D9GMH 1G*2=570MHz-4-4-4-5-2T 3.15v

http://ameblo.jp/tsubasa1998/image-1...314809234.html


Ballistix PC6400 D9GKX 1G*2=570MHz-4-4-4-8-2T 2.85v

http://ameblo.jp/tsubasa1998/image-1...312663750.html


MB=DFI LP DK 790GX M2RS(1012 β)
CPU=AMD Athlon Ⅱ X2 250@(1.55v)3.99GHz
CPUcooler=Thermaltake MaxOrb
VGA=Force3D RADEON HD3650-512MB

http://ameblo.jp/tsubasa1998/image-1...303019181.html
http://ameblo.jp/tsubasa1998/image-1...303019182.html
http://ameblo.jp/tsubasa1998/image-1...303019183.html
http://ameblo.jp/tsubasa1998/image-1...315248507.html

Oh, I try where I turn around to because I own Ballistix PC6400 1G*2 of the D9HNL deployment in few days

Then please reach the age that people are good for

[RAMMAN]

thats a lot of voltage for 570mhz 4-4-4 im hoping to get 600mhz 4-4-4-12 at no more than 2.5v havent tried yet though, 555mhz 4-4-4-12 2.3v and 533mhz 4-4-4-12 2.2v is already a reality though on my last board(ga-p35-ds3p), not stable however. i should be pushing my ram at 5-5-5-15 too but i will probably end up with lower everest bandwidth numbers due to lower fsb and different memory divider and strap.

edit: heres my best everest bandwidth results so far, as you can see im still struggling to get high fsb

vdimm 2.3v vtt 1.3v mch 1.24v pl8 3:4 400 strap



locked up almost instantly when i tried running memtest so not exactly stable lol. i suspect more mch voltage is required, perhaps a bit more mch reference voltage than the stock 0.76v, maybe 0.8v. and im not sure 3:4 memory divider 400 strap is the best for achieving high everest bandwidth numbers and certainly isnt helping achieve high fsb either.