ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[sesdave]

Well after running with the 2301 and 2302 bios' for a few days I decided that I really don't like either!! I believe the 2301 is just a bit stronger. So I put afudos 2.11 on a floppy and my favorite 2004bios on and rebooted just like clock work everything went smooth as silk. Uh hey I'm WeldZilla everything always goes that way for me!! At the prompt I typed in
afudos/iP5WDH.rom and hit enter and it was off to the bios races 10%,17%,28%, 39%, 48%, 59%, 67% and then the floppy stopped it wait awhile and then came the post.... FAILED!! options- abort,retry, fall on your sword!!
So this is when you need to stay cool. I went to one of my other systems
downloaded afudos and snagged an older bios 1901 put it all on a fresh new floppy and returned to my machine. I pulled the bad floppy and put in the fresh one. Got the prompt and started again. This time the floppy was a good one and I flashed back to 1901. When I got my system back up I used Asus update and loaded up the 2004 bios from a file on my system. I went back through the bios setting up my system and i am happy to report that I am running at 425 fsb @ 3825 with a whole lot more authority tha either the 2301 or the 2302 could provide my system with. Lawry I will try yours soon.
Why did this work out in the end so well? Hey I am WeldZilla and that's the way it is!!


WZ

Way to go - I do so enjoy coming back and reading the posts on this thread since I upgraded to the P5K Premium. The MB may be better than the P5W but the threads aren't half as much fun!

On another note for all you Vista X64 users you may find this utility useful to aid in quick configuring - http://www.tweakvista.com/tweakvistautility/

[Kynoo]

Hi, im french so sorry for my english



I have an P5W Dh Deluxe with a bios id 2004.

A fresh install of Vista 64 Ultimate box version.

And 4Gb ( 4x1Gb) of G-Skill 5400U.

I installed the OS with just 2Gb, install ok.
After finish it and put drivers, i try to put all my ram...


With 3Gb, it's fine.

With 4Gb ... my pc reboot .... i never go to windows.

I tested with e "no error" mode, and windows hang load and reboot at crcdisk file.



I tried the Kb indicate in this forum without issue..

I tested some bios rules without issue too.

I verify all update from Microsoft... no issue.

I look on Asustek forum, no issue too.



So ... what we can do ?

My hardware :

E6600
4Gb of G-Skill 5400U ( 4x1Go )
P5W Dh Deluxe with 2301 Bios ( memory remap on )
Crossfire of two X1950Pro512
Sound card X-Fi Fatal1ty
4DD Sata

Any help or solutions ?

[mikepaul]

With 3Gb, it's fine.

With 4Gb ... my pc reboot .... i never go to windows.

Did it work with 3GB no matter which 3 sticks you had in?

Keep swapping them around until you've booted at 2GB using each combination of sticks once. That'd be 6 combinations, I think: 1-2, 1-3, 1-4, 2-3, 2-4, 3-4...

[sesdave]

Hi, im french so sorry for my english



I have an P5W Dh Deluxe with a bios id 2004.

A fresh install of Vista 64 Ultimate box version.

And 4Gb ( 4x1Gb) of G-Skill 5400U.

I installed the OS with just 2Gb, install ok.
After finish it and put drivers, i try to put all my ram...


With 3Gb, it's fine.

With 4Gb ... my pc reboot .... i never go to windows.

Any help or solutions ?

Your memory is only rated 667 - 4x1GB puts more strain on the memory controller and the MB. You probably need higher MCH and looser timings with 4x1GB. What are all your current BIOS settings ,volts, memory timings etc and what are you running your CPU at. Are you trying to run memory 1:1 or higher - if so you really want better out of the box spec memory like Crucial 8500C5 which is great o/c memory at a very cheap price.

[cuke2u]

What's the latest opinion here on the Antec Neo HE550 power supply on a P5W DH?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/oth.../atx-psu7.html says it's great if you get the A4 revision, but I still see bad things said recently about it without notes about the version number.

It'd be $55 after rebate if I order from NewEgg today or tomorrow, but I'd like some other input before I jump on it.

Since they don't like the Zalman I have on order from Amazon, I think I'll cancel that even if I don't get this one cheap...

Hi, it is a very good PSU, I've been running one now for a couple of years with different motherboards and my XT1900XT-X. Firstly a A8R32-MVP, then a P5W DH and now my P5B Premium Vista Edition, and had no issues whatsoever. I will admit there might have been build issues with some early versions however people who criticise it haven't a clue what they are talking about because it actually is a Antec badged Seasonic, see here http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/370 for proof....
ChrisC

[Ragdd]

I had a Antec True Power 380 watt and Antec Neopower 480 watt in the past.

My hardware vendor wasn't keen on Antec psu's because they have a lot of RMA's on those psu's.

They advised me Fortron psu's and I bought a Fortron Epsilon 800 watt.
Also installed several Fortron Epsilon's in computerss of friends (Epsilon 600, 700 & 800 watt). And some Fortron Blue Storm 500 watt in other people's computers.

I must say that those Fotron psu are running more stable, cooler and more quieter dan those Antec psu's.

Only Fortron for me.

[mikepaul]

Hi, it is a very good PSU, I've been running one now for a couple of years with different motherboards and my XT1900XT-X. Firstly a A8R32-MVP, then a P5W DH and now my P5B Premium Vista Edition, and had no issues whatsoever. I will admit there might have been build issues with some early versions however people who criticise it haven't a clue what they are talking about because it actually is a Antec badged Seasonic, see here http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/370 for proof....
ChrisC

Good. I asked Antec Support and they said if I got an old A3.1 it'd have to be broken before they'd replace it, but I'll take my chances.

Thanks...

[WeldZilla]

Well ok you weren't looking for a rave. You still got one. Looking at those temps well the 69 69 64 64 I would ay your right at the upper end of your possible OC as you want to stay out of the 70's. How about a nice clear pic of your case from the left side then another of the left side with the cover off.
Maybe we can get you more cooling with little work or money involved and maybe not. You might just be as far as your type of cooling will go.
So post up the pics and let's have a look. Oh by the way that is a nice 12V. rail on your psu.

Hey would you put Core Temp on your machine and see what it says your temps are?
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/

WZ

[gwolfman]

Well ok you weren't looking for a rave. You still got one. Looking at those temps well the 69 69 64 64 I would ay your right at the upper end of your possible OC as you want to stay out of the 70's. How about a nice clear pic of your case from the left side then another of the left side with the cover off.
Maybe we can get you more cooling with little work or money involved and maybe not. You might just be as far as your type of cooling will go.
So post up the pics and let's have a look. Oh by the way that is a nice 12V. rail on your psu.

Hey would you put Core Temp on your machine and see what it says your temps are?
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/

WZ

Here you go:


Never used this app before (thought I've read some about it). Why are the temps different than speedfan and/or how does this work?

[astaris]

Here you go:


Never used this app before (thought I've read some about it). Why are the temps different than speedfan and/or how does this work?

Because Speedfan assumes a Tj_max of 85 C, 15 degrees less than coretemp. Both programs read the relative temp from the DTS.

[DrSlump]

Hi to all. I'm italian so, sorry if i make some mistakes writing in english language.
I wish to submit a problem:
does this mainboard have some problems running 4Gb or more, when all four memory slots are used?
Now i use a 2Gb gskill dual channel memory kit, HZ series, they run@800Mhz, with 4-4-4-12 timings.
If i buy another 2Gb kit of these, will the mainboard support them???
Is it true that the 975x supports only 667Mhz bus when all memory slots are used??

Thanx

[lawrywild]

I'm running 4x1GB with a Q6600 @ 3Ghz with the ram at 834Mhz 4-4-3-4 on 2.1v so no, it's not limited to 667Mhz; atleast for me it isn't. (Auto vMCH too)

[sesdave]

I'm running 4x1GB with a Q6600 @ 3Ghz with the ram at 834Mhz 4-4-3-4 on 2.1v so no, it's not limited to 667Mhz; atleast for me it isn't. (Auto vMCH too)

But you do have the best memory around - Crucial Ballistix 8500C5! recommend them for any MB - best price in the UK http://misco.co.uk/applications/Sear...1078&CatId=784

[DrSlump]

I'm running 4x1GB with a Q6600 @ 3Ghz with the ram at 834Mhz 4-4-3-4 on 2.1v so no, it's not limited to 667Mhz; atleast for me it isn't. (Auto vMCH too)

Nice!
These are the memory i got: F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ (1GB x 2)

I olso would upgrade my e6600 with a q6600 g0 and another pair of that rams

but i would like to keep the system at least @3Ghz..

[lawrywild]

PC2-5300 actually

The 8500 did cost quite a bit more when I bought, the Misco deal is just amazing though.

[sesdave]

PC2-5300 actually

The 8500 did cost quite a bit more when I bought, the Misco deal is just amazing though.

Lawrywild - apologies I thought you had these. Sell yours and get these while they are going at this price - they were £10 cheaper but are obviously popular. On 4x1GB I can run them 4,4,4,12 upto about 1066 or 5,5,5,15 upto 1200 with little or no volt increase. They are worth the investment cos DDR3 is way overpriced and DDR2 will be around for at least a couple more years.

[lawrywild]

Lawrywild - apologies I thought you had these. Sell yours and get these while they are going at this price - they were £10 cheaper but are obviously popular. On 4x1GB I can run them 4,4,4,12 upto about 1066 or 5,5,5,15 upto 1200 with little or no volt increase. They are worth the investment cos DDR3 is way overpriced and DDR2 will be around for at least a couple more years.

Why The ram is no the limiting factor, the 975x is. Plus, I know these ram are capable of over 1000MHz at 4-4-3-4 on only like 2.2v so no need. I'm happy that these just work fine and don't error

[sesdave]

Why The ram is no the limiting factor, the 975x is. Plus, I know these ram are capable of over 1000MHz at 4-4-3-4 on only like 2.2v so no need. I'm happy that these just work fine and don't error

Fair point - I forgot I don't have the 975x now. So we are both happy with the ballistix we got.!

[sniggle]

Hey guys, I have a weird quirk with my workstation here. I have 2x1GB of G-Skill PC6400 5-5-5-15 (non HZ) ram. I cannot get the sticks to pass test 5 of memtest when they're both in the board. The weird thing is that test 5 doesn't even show errors. The walltime and pass percentage just stop incrementing even though the little + sign is still blinking in the top left. However, if I run the sticks individually they both pass test 5 multiple times.

Is this bad ram or what? I've tried raising the voltages and loosening the timings with no fix. I've never seen memtest just lock up like that, even though its UI is still updating.

I've tried bios 1707 and 2004. The ram is currently running at its rated speed of 400mhz. At these settings I am orthos stable for hours (small FFT, so not really stressing the ram).

EDIT: running the ram at 3/4 (300mhz) and it's passing test 5 multiple times. I think this ram is just sorta crappy. I might RMA it.

[sesdave]

Hey guys, I have a weird quirk with my workstation here. I have 2x1GB of G-Skill PC6400 5-5-5-15 (non HZ) ram. I cannot get the sticks to pass test 5 of memtest when they're both in the board. The weird thing is that test 5 doesn't even show errors. The walltime and pass percentage just stop incrementing even though the little + sign is still blinking in the top left. However, if I run the sticks individually they both pass test 5 multiple times.

Is this bad ram or what? I've tried raising the voltages and loosening the timings with no fix. I've never seen memtest just lock up like that, even though its UI is still updating.

I've tried bios 1707 and 2004. The ram is currently running at its rated speed of 400mhz. At these settings I am orthos stable for hours (small FFT, so not really stressing the ram).

EDIT: running the ram at 3/4 (300mhz) and it's passing test 5 multiple times. I think this ram is just sorta crappy. I might RMA it.

If you bought as a dual pair and it wont pass memtest at rated speed RMA it.

[lawrywild]

Hey guys, I have a weird quirk with my workstation here. I have 2x1GB of G-Skill PC6400 5-5-5-15 (non HZ) ram. I cannot get the sticks to pass test 5 of memtest when they're both in the board. The weird thing is that test 5 doesn't even show errors. The walltime and pass percentage just stop incrementing even though the little + sign is still blinking in the top left. However, if I run the sticks individually they both pass test 5 multiple times.

Is this bad ram or what? I've tried raising the voltages and loosening the timings with no fix. I've never seen memtest just lock up like that, even though its UI is still updating.

I've tried bios 1707 and 2004. The ram is currently running at its rated speed of 400mhz. At these settings I am orthos stable for hours (small FFT, so not really stressing the ram).

EDIT: running the ram at 3/4 (300mhz) and it's passing test 5 multiple times. I think this ram is just sorta crappy. I might RMA it.

This is what happens when the motherboard is what's causing the failure, not the memory. You have simply pushed the memory controller too far. 975x is not good at clicking memory very high. I get this exact 'freeze' after aboout 925MHz DDR2 or so, my board is not a good one for memory clocking, some can go 1100Mhz but it's very rare. 1000MHz MAX seems about normal though.

[sniggle]

This is what happens when the motherboard is what's causing the failure, not the memory. You have simply pushed the memory controller too far. 975x is not good at clicking memory very high. I get this exact 'freeze' after aboout 925MHz DDR2 or so, my board is not a good one for memory clocking, some can go 1100Mhz but it's very rare. 1000MHz MAX seems about normal though.

I think you're right. I tried my known good ram and the same thing happened. Once I raised the NB voltage a notch it worked fine. Unfortunately, I ended up buying some replacement ram anyway. Not sure whether I should go for 4GB or just replace it.

[palito]

i am Having this problem for a couple of days now,Azureus Locks up my Router

when this happens i am not able to surf nor do torrent Downloads

only on a system restart things get back to normal (note Router is ok,when i restart the the computer i am able to surf,i dont restart the router at all)

i think this is something to do with the Marvell Yukon Drivers,i am using the Drivers Given the Mobo CD

this matter is driving me nuts,pls help me out

[w2richwood]

try the update drivers from the asus web site
Rich

[sesdave]

I think you're right. I tried my known good ram and the same thing happened. Once I raised the NB voltage a notch it worked fine. Unfortunately, I ended up buying some replacement ram anyway. Not sure whether I should go for 4GB or just replace it.

Another option would be to get a P5K premium MB which is a lot more flexible with memory. I previously had Corsair XMS 6400 (v2.1 Promos chips) which I couldnt get to o/c above its rated DDR800 on the P5W but happily ran near 1000 on the P5K. It would probably let you get a better o/c all round with you current CPU and memory and better position you for the penryn. Some will say wait for the P38 but a P5K will last you a few years with cheap DDR2 memory compared with very expensive DDR3 on a P38 MB.