Confirmed: Feser 1 Blue Premix + GTZ = do NOT want

[Johnny87au]

Dam guys thats some nasty stuff, I was using the feser uv blood red for a week but didnt wanna take the chance even with PT nuke so i ended up using distilled + Utopia which is basically the same as PT nuke.. @Naekuh u got pics dude? sounds interesting

[Waterlogged]

really makes me wonder is this just cause off mixing feser with other stuff if so with what did op mix it with ?.

I'm fairly positive that SNiiPE didn't mix anything else in with it. He also isn't the only one having the problem so it's not an isolated incident.

Dam guys thats some nasty stuff, I was using the feser uv blood red for a week but didnt wanna take the chance even with PT nuke so i ended up using distilled + Utopia which is basically the same as PT nuke.. @Naekuh u got pics dude? sounds interesting

You may want to reconsider using that crap too. It has some form of surfactant (such as Water Wetter), which we stopped using a long time ago as it didn't have any positive impact on the system and long term use showed a slimy buildup on components that was difficult to remove and hurt temps.

[Johnny87au]

I'm fairly positive that SNiiPE didn't mix anything else in with it. He also isn't the only one having the problem so it's not an isolated incident.



You may want to reconsider using that crap too. It has some form of surfactant (such as Water Wetter), which we stopped using a long time ago as it didn't have any positive impact on the system and long term use showed a slimy buildup on components that was difficult to remove and hurt temps.

oh you serious? the store i got it from recommended me it, You think just stick with PT nuke yeah?

[Waterlogged]

oh you serious? the store i got it from recommended me it, You think just stick with PT nuke yeah?

It's in the product description.

Protection? Protect me from what?.... Well most people are not aware until it is too late, but little micro organisms love to water cool as much as you do! Usually it is too late to do anything but drain your system, do a massive cleaning and start all over again. But hopefully this time you will use PrimoChill's latest water cooling fluid innovation, Liquid Utopia.

Liquid Utopia is designed for PRO users wanting minimal additive in their cooling loop of De-ionized Water or Distilled Water***. It offers a full line of protection against algae and corrosion when adding to your new or existing cooling loops*. The proprietary blend of ingredients used in PrimoChill's Liquid Utopia are specially formulated to provide a broad-spectrum antimicrobial agent, capable of eliminating and maintaining the microbiological growth found in closed loop water cooling systems.

Liquid Utopia also boasts "PLT" (preventive layer technology), which used on a clean install will help protect your system well into the future. Liquid Utopia has also been formulated to protect ferrous and non-ferrous metals from corrosion, which is especially important in today's higher performance mixed metals water cooling systems.

The "PLT" sounds like it forms some sort of layer on your parts to protect against any microbes from making a home. The thing is, we've seen in the past where things that leave "layers" tend to stay there and need extra work to get rid of them, if you don't, they'll build up and create a layer that doesn't transfer heat to well and there go your temps.

[Alexandr0s]

It's in the product description.



The "PLT" sounds like it forms some sort of layer on your parts to protect against any microbes from making a home. The thing is, we've seen in the past where things that leave "layers" tend to stay there and need extra work to get rid of them, if you don't, they'll build up and create a layer that doesn't transfer heat to well and there go your temps.

Yeah, I don't like the sound of that layer stuff. Stick with a killcoil or PTNuke.

[Sadhana]

Any updates for the effect of Feser 1 UV dye? Because I'm going to use Feser 1 for my dual loop and don't want to see many gunks around wc parts

[ggdh]

Get coloured tubing.

[iddqd]

why not do distilled + a bit of propylene glycol? I have unlike metals in my loop... so without a softener, galvanic corrosion would eat through my rad, in due time.

E: actually, whatever because that's what i've been doing for years and never had problems. *shrug*

E2: it's cheap too, you can just buy the green antifreeze. that's what it basically is.

[madmaxx]

Get coloured tubing.

why not do distilled + a bit of propylene glycol?

This combination is the ABSOLUTE best there is! I'm surprised people still haven't learned

[wesley]

This combination is the ABSOLUTE best there is! I'm surprised people still haven't learned

Hi!

How is it an absolute best? In temps vs distilled?

Btw, something about the stuff.

http://www.naturalnews.com/023138_pr...od_health.html

Also, mixing all the metals are fine except for AL as Polizei has mentioned.

Wes

[gmat]

This combination is the ABSOLUTE best there is! I'm surprised people still haven't learned

Glycol is toxic, and reduces the efficiency somewhat. It's not as much antimicrobial as silver or copper. And since it's an alcohol, it destroys acrylic and generally doesnt play well with plastics (even tubing not meant for it).
Unless you need its antifreeze properties (in which case you know what you are doing playing with a chiller) it's not a good solution for room temperature pc watercooling.

[Polizei]

why not do distilled + a bit of propylene glycol? I have unlike metals in my loop... so without a softener, galvanic corrosion would eat through my rad, in due time.

E: actually, whatever because that's what i've been doing for years and never had problems. *shrug*

E2: it's cheap too, you can just buy the green antifreeze. that's what it basically is.

Mixed metals such as?

Mixing copper, chrome, nickel, brass, and gold is okay. You won't get corrosion.

If you have aluminum, that's a problem.

[zer0kewl]

so getting any kind off corosion is just imposible without corosion protection like when you got copper rad some nickel + bras fittings etc.

cous i'm thinking about going demi + killcoil atm ;P

[Elpy]

Distilled+glycol if you have mixed metals

Distilled+silver(killcoil) if you dont have mixed metals.

so getting any kind off corosion is just imposible without corosion protection like when you got copper rad some nickel + bras fittings etc.

cous i'm thinking about going demi + killcoil atm ;P

Yes you wont get corrosion if you have stuff like copper, nickel or brass. Just stay away from aluminum.

[zer0kewl]

Distilled+glycol if you have mixed metals

Distilled+silver(killcoil) if you dont have mixed metals.

Yes you wont get corrosion if you have stuff like copper, nickel or brass. Just stay away from aluminum.

so wich would i need for having nickel copper bras ?

distilled + glycol ?
or distilled + killcoil ?

[Davit]

Not to resurrect an old thread, but

I just looked at my res today and notice white stringy flakes in it. I flushed the cooling system completely couple of weeks ago as I was adding evga gtx 580 hydrocopper 2 to my system. I am using fesser one clear UV coolant, been using it for over a year before. Not sure what those flakes are... As far as I know evga uses swiftech waterblock for their gtx 580s. Is there a chance of a reaction between new card and my cpu waterblock Heatkiller 3.0? Or my rads? Algae growth?
I am afraid that I would need to disassemble my new gtx 580 to clean it now, is there a way to flush it??? Should I just refill it after I flush it with same fesser one fluid?

[Vinas]

Not to resurrect an old thread, but

Wow this is a flashback.

Yeah. Probably should have made a new thread. Sounds like you're having classic dye problems, not reactions.

[Church]

If you haven't aluminium in loop (and as you mentioned - all your components are nickel/copper/brass/stainless steel), any coolant will do, as you don't need to care about corrosion. What i can advise - distilled with something to prevent algae growth. For example - killcoil or few drops of some biocide (eg. PHN copper). Glycol sounds like some antifreeze? No need for that (see above). It will just worsen thermal transfer properties of coolant.

[Alexandr0s]

If you haven't aluminium in loop (and as you mentioned - all your components are nickel/copper/brass/stainless steel), any coolant will do, as you don't need to care about corrosion. What i can advise - distilled with something to prevent algae growth. For example - killcoil or few drops of some biocide (eg. PHN copper). Glycol sounds like some antifreeze? No need for that (see above). It will just worsen thermal transfer properties of coolant.

Although I'm not sure about this, I remember reading something about glycol and a gunky buildup being related, or something like that.

[TJ TRICHEESE]

Hmm my coolant is still blue, ill see what damage (if any) has been done to my system, i know it left horrible blue marks on my table. that primochill stuff looks good

[Sailindawg]

That term "layer" seems like marketing jargon referring to nothing more than a wetting agent. Best results are straight distilled, distilled with kill coil/PT Nuke and if you want color, LRT tubing.

[zer0kewl]

finaly decided to ditch colored crap asswell.
i had a gunk in my ek supreme HF full nickel after 1 month or less usage.

flow dropped from 3 liter per min or even 3,1 liter per min to 2,5 2,6 liter per min sudenly.

now if pre ordered colored tubing and new reservoir while at it.

[TJ TRICHEESE]

still running fine with koolance blocks

[zer0kewl]

anyone expriences with thermochil ec6 clear uv coolant ?

and no i dont got uv dye's in it just the clear bottle off water so my guess i should't worry about any kind off gunk or some sort thats caused by uv dye's ?

reason i'm asking cous it say's clear uv on bottle makes me wonder does it have a uv dye in it or does it just mean its good to use with uv dye's cous i dont care about that.

[caveman_2]

anyone expriences with thermochil ec6 clear uv coolant ?

and no i dont got uv dye's in it just the clear bottle off water so my guess i should't worry about any kind off gunk or some sort thats caused by uv dye's ?

reason i'm asking cous it say's clear uv on bottle makes me wonder does it have a uv dye in it or does it just mean its good to use with uv dye's cous i dont care about that.

yes ec6 blue since summer '10. drained and refilled loop with same bottle 3 times now, no residue in blocks and only minimal tube clouding so far