AMD Shanghai/Deneb Review Thread

[Caveman787]

yet wprime says 3.074g weirdly.

[SoF]

wprime is often wrong I will update my cpuz right away, it is still the same hdd as during G|C Same bios also - need to update I think. Hopefully that 32m passes, I'll do it with new CPUz
€dit: 32m with new CPUz

[Jerry Rob]

Oh come on SoF, don't do that, you had to leave some numbers in the middle of test, then it would be a teaser, this is just plain cruel

If this ~ 4GHz score is on air cooling and without ACC, it's really quite impressive

Waiting for some more tests, hopefully without black coloured squares

[Lightman]

Looks like my GA 790FX-DQ6 SB600 based board will love this new 940BE

SoF can you say what type of air cooling are you using?

[informal]

Thanks for that screeny SoF,is the Northbridge clock 2Ghz by default(NB multi 10)? We saw 1.8Ghz HTT def. clock but didn't see what NB clocks are default for 940BE.

[SoF]

it's simple scythe mugen laying on it with 120 and 92mm fan full speed on 2 sides without additional weight. wprime1024m 1.32V 46°C load
sorry but I have to keep performance covered for now This chip is running real cold

[charged3800z24]

it's simple scythe mugen laying on it with 120 and 92mm fan full speed on 2 sides without additional weight. wprime1024m 1.32V 46°C load
sorry but I have to keep performance covered for now This chip is running real cold

man that's impressive..

[Caveman787]

2 fans on that mugen and at 3300 with only 1.320 with default of 1.35....46 celcius seems pretty high compared to what we've been hearing of running like 3.8g 1.5 volts and only 37 celcius or something....

[SoF]

I never have good cooling values on air it is not mounted properly as I will go DICE as soon as possible. but maybe takes me until next week end

[Caveman787]

alright that makes more sense, the other guy was using a DuoOrb cpu cooler which I assume isn't far off in cooling performance.

[faior]

Is every 940 Phenom2 Black Editions? .. or is there some normal ones too?

[Caveman787]

can't wait for iocedmyself to show up again with game fps numbers.

SoF can you test max air northbridge clock?
and how far you can keep high nb with a high core clock?

faior- All 940's are black edition just like the 9950's were all BE.

[faior]

faior- All 940's are black edition just like the 9950's were all BE.

Thanks a lot mate! Didnt know all 9950 were BE though, damn if Id knew that I would have bought it elsewhere for cheaper, darn. Not every webshop tells if its BE or not :S

[SoF]

I tested nb with 2.400 for prime with 3600mhz cpu and 2.200 mhz nb / 4020 mhz cpu some minutes ago.

[Caveman787]

Sweet I'm gonna assume they both worked.

I have a feeling we may see 2,600 mhz northbride with good clocks this time.

Which combined with a 2,000mhz htt will yield some nice performance.

[informal]

I tested nb with 2.400 for prime with 3600mhz cpu and 2.200 mhz nb / 4020 mhz cpu some minutes ago.

2.200 mhz nb / 4020 mhz cpu ,wow . Was it stable?(i presume it was )
So by your experience ,NB has some hefty headroom which is great since it can net ~5% speed gain in many cases versus default/stock NB clock..

[iocedmyself]

Btw yes am benching at 3ghz with 2ghz NB. And sorry for absence but OS hard disk died had to reinstall everything

SiSoftware Sandra

Benchmark Results
Multi-Media Int x16 iSSE2 : 170280iit/s
Multi-Media Float x8 iSSE2 : 223516fit/s
Results Interpretation : Higher index values are better.

Performance vs. Speed
Multi-Media Int x16 iSSE2 : 56.61iit/s/MHz
Multi-Media Float x8 iSSE2 : 74.31fit/s/MHz
Results Interpretation : Higher index values are better.

Performance Test Status
Run ID : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 940 Processor (Quad-Core, 3.01GHz, 4x 512kB L2, 6MB L3)
Platform Compliance : Win64 x64
NUMA Support : No
SMP (Multi-Processor) Benchmark : No
Total Test Threads : 4
Multi-Core Test : Yes
Cores per Processor : 4
SMT (Multi-Threaded) Benchmark : No
Processor Affinity : P0C0T0 P0C1T0 P0C2T0 P0C3T0
System Timer : 14.32MHz
Rendered Image Size : 640x480

Processor
Model : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 940 Processor
Speed : 3.01GHz
Model Number : 9024
Cores per Processor : 4 Unit(s)
Type : Quad-Core
L2 On-board Cache : 4x 512kB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-way, 64 byte line size
L3 On-board Cache : 6MB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 48-way, 64 byte line size, 4 threads sharing

Features
SSE Technology : Yes
SSE2 Technology : Yes
SSE3 Technology : Yes
Supplemental SSE3 Technology : No
SSE4.1 Technology : No
SSE4.2 Technology : No
EMMX - Extended MMX Technology : Yes
SSE4A Technology : Yes
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : No

Performance Tips
Notice 5008 : To change benchmarks, click Options.
Notice 5004 : Synthetic benchmark. May not tally with 'real-life' performance.
Notice 5006 : Only compare the results with ones obtained using the same version!
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.

[SoF]

no I only tested 4020 with 1m - can't get it stable, think it needs ACC (what does not work yet for me, waiting what others say about deneb and acc). shortly did 4080 1m but crashed during saving

[iocedmyself]

SiSoftware Sandra

Benchmark Results
Dhrystone ALU : 41008MIPS
Whetstone iSSE3 : 34658MFLOPS
Results Interpretation : Higher index values are better.

Performance vs. Speed
Dhrystone ALU : 13.63MIPS/MHz
Whetstone iSSE3 : 11.52MFLOPS/MHz
Results Interpretation : Higher index values are better.

Performance Test Status
Run ID : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 940 Processor (Quad-Core, 3.01GHz, 4x 512kB L2, 6MB L3)
Platform Compliance : Win64 x64
NUMA Support : No
SMP (Multi-Processor) Benchmark : No
Total Test Threads : 4
Multi-Core Test : Yes
Cores per Processor : 4
SMT (Multi-Threaded) Benchmark : No
Processor Affinity : P0C0T0 P0C1T0 P0C2T0 P0C3T0
System Timer : 14.32MHz
Number of Runs : 64000 / 640

Processor
Model : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 940 Processor
Speed : 3.01GHz
Model Number : 9024
Cores per Processor : 4 Unit(s)
Type : Quad-Core
L2 On-board Cache : 4x 512kB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-way, 64 byte line size
L3 On-board Cache : 6MB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 48-way, 64 byte line size, 4 threads sharing

Features
SSE Technology : Yes
SSE2 Technology : Yes
SSE3 Technology : Yes
Supplemental SSE3 Technology : No
SSE4.1 Technology : No
SSE4.2 Technology : No
EMMX - Extended MMX Technology : Yes
SSE4A Technology : Yes
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : No

Performance Tips
Notice 5008 : To change benchmarks, click Options.
Notice 5004 : Synthetic benchmark. May not tally with 'real-life' performance.
Notice 5006 : Only compare the results with ones obtained using the same version!
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.

[iocedmyself]

SiSoftware Sandra

Benchmark Results
Cache/Memory Bandwidth : 40.74GB/s
Results Interpretation : Higher index values are better.
Speed Factor : 36.50
Results Interpretation : Lower index values are better.

Performance vs. Speed
Cache/Memory Bandwidth : 13.87MB/s/MHz
Results Interpretation : Higher index values are better.

Float SSE2 Cache/Memory Results Breakdown
Data Item Size : 16bytes
Buffering Used : No
Offset Displacement Used : Yes

Detailed Benchmark Results
2kB Blocks : 152.92GB/s
4kB Blocks : 190.88GB/s
8kB Blocks : 195.38GB/s
16kB Blocks : 198.55GB/s
32kB Blocks : 210.45GB/s
64kB Blocks : 185.46GB/s
128kB Blocks : 169.42GB/s
256kB Blocks : 151.32GB/s
512kB Blocks : 99.10GB/s
1MB Blocks : 84.62GB/s
4MB Blocks : 35.76GB/s
16MB Blocks : 7.52GB/s
64MB Blocks : 5.77GB/s
256MB Blocks : 5.77GB/s
1GB Blocks : 5.83GB/s

Performance Test Status
Run ID : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 940 Processor (Quad-Core, 3.01GHz, 4x 512kB L2, 6MB L3); AMD ??? (9600); 1x 4GB DDR2 PC2-17200 (5.0-5-4-8)
Platform Compliance : Win64 x64
NUMA Support : No
SMP (Multi-Processor) Benchmark : No
Total Test Threads : 4
Multi-Core Test : Yes
SMT (Multi-Threaded) Benchmark : No
Processor Affinity : P0C0T0 P0C1T0 P0C2T0 P0C3T0
System Timer : 14.32MHz
Page Size : 4kB
Use Large Memory Pages : No

Processor
Model : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 940 Processor
Speed : 3.01GHz
Model Number : 9024
Cores per Processor : 4 Unit(s)
Type : Quad-Core
L2 On-board Cache : 4x 512kB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-way, 64 byte line size
L3 On-board Cache : 6MB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 48-way, 64 byte line size, 4 threads sharing

Features
SSE Technology : Yes
SSE2 Technology : Yes
SSE3 Technology : Yes
Supplemental SSE3 Technology : No
SSE4.1 Technology : No
SSE4.2 Technology : No
EMMX - Extended MMX Technology : Yes
SSE4A Technology : Yes
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : No

Chipset 1
Model : ASUS ??? (9600)
Revision : A1
Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 201MHz (201MHz)
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 804MB/s

Chipset 2
Model : AMD (Family 10h) Athlon64/Opteron/Sempron HyperTransport Technology Configuration
Revision : A1
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 2.01GHz (4.02GHz)
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 15.70GB/s

Logical/Chipset 2 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 2GB DDR2 5.0-5-4-8 CR3
Bank 1 : 2GB DDR2 5.0-5-4-8 CR3
Channels : 1
Bank Interleave : 2-way
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 536MHz (1.07GHz)
Multiplier : 8/3x
Width : 128-bit
Memory Controller in Processor : Yes
Cores per Memory Controller : 4 Unit(s)
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 16.75GB/s

Performance Tips
Notice 5008 : To change benchmarks, click Options.
Notice 5004 : Synthetic benchmark. May not tally with 'real-life' performance.
Notice 5006 : Only compare the results with ones obtained using the same version!
Tip 11 : Use the 'Switch Chart Type' button to switch between Detailed and Combined charts.
Warning 5010 : Cannot use Large Memory Pages due to lack of privileges.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.

[iocedmyself]

SiSoftware Sandra

Benchmark Results
Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 11.18GB/s
Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 11.18GB/s
Results Interpretation : Higher index values are better.

Performance vs. Speed
Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 10.68MB/s/MHz
Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth : 10.68MB/s/MHz
Results Interpretation : Higher index values are better.

Int Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth
Assignment : 10.93GB/s
Scaling : 10.89GB/s
Addition : 11.49GB/s
Triad : 11.42GB/s
Data Item Size : 16bytes
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement Used : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 66.77%

Float Buff'd iSSE2 Memory Bandwidth
Assignment : 10.94GB/s
Scaling : 10.86GB/s
Addition : 11.49GB/s
Triad : 11.44GB/s
Data Item Size : 16bytes
Buffering Used : Yes
Offset Displacement Used : Yes
Bandwidth Efficiency : 66.76%

Performance Test Status
Run ID : AMD ??? (9600); 1x 4GB DDR2 PC2-17200 (5.0-5-4-8)
Platform Compliance : Win64 x64
Memory Used by Test : 1.75GB
NUMA Support : No
SMP (Multi-Processor) Benchmark : No
Total Test Threads : 4
Multi-Core Test : Yes
SMT (Multi-Threaded) Benchmark : No
Processor Affinity : P0C0T0 P0C1T0 P0C2T0 P0C3T0
System Timer : 14.32MHz
Page Size : 4kB
Use Large Memory Pages : No

Features
SSE Technology : Yes
SSE2 Technology : Yes
SSE3 Technology : Yes
Supplemental SSE3 Technology : No
SSE4.1 Technology : No
SSE4.2 Technology : No
EMMX - Extended MMX Technology : Yes
SSE4A Technology : Yes
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : No

Chipset 1
Model : ASUS ??? (9600)
Revision : A1
Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 201MHz (201MHz)
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 804MB/s

Chipset 2
Model : AMD (Family 10h) Athlon64/Opteron/Sempron HyperTransport Technology Configuration
Revision : A1
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 2.01GHz (4.02GHz)
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 15.70GB/s

Logical/Chipset 2 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 2GB DDR2 5.0-5-4-8 CR3
Bank 1 : 2GB DDR2 5.0-5-4-8 CR3
Channels : 1
Bank Interleave : 2-way
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 536MHz (1.07GHz)
Multiplier : 8/3x
Width : 128-bit
Memory Controller in Processor : Yes
Cores per Memory Controller : 4 Unit(s)
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 16.75GB/s

Performance Tips
Notice 5008 : To change benchmarks, click Options.
Notice 5004 : Synthetic benchmark. May not tally with 'real-life' performance.
Notice 5006 : Only compare the results with ones obtained using the same version!
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.

[iocedmyself]

SiSoftware Sandra

Benchmark Results
Memory (Random Access) Latency : 89ns
Speed Factor : 83.40
Results Interpretation : Lower index values are better.

Performance vs. Speed
Memory (Random Access) Latency : 0.08ns/MHz
Results Interpretation : Lower index values are better.

Detailed Benchmark Results
1kB Range : 3clocks / 1ns
4kB Range : 3clocks / 1ns
16kB Range : 3clocks / 1ns
64kB Range : 3clocks / 1ns
256kB Range : 16clocks / 5ns
1MB Range : 56clocks / 19ns
4MB Range : 86clocks / 29ns
16MB Range : 248clocks / 83ns
64MB Range : 266clocks / 89ns

Performance Test Status
Run ID : AMD ??? (9600); 1x 4GB DDR2 PC2-17200 (5.0-5-4-8)
Platform Compliance : Win64 x64
System Timer : 14.32MHz
Memory Access : Random

Processor
Model : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 940 Processor
Speed : 3.01GHz
Model Number : 9024
Cores per Processor : 4 Unit(s)
Type : Quad-Core
L2 On-board Cache : 4x 512kB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-way, 64 byte line size
L3 On-board Cache : 6MB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 48-way, 64 byte line size, 4 threads sharing

Chipset 1
Model : ASUS ??? (9600)
Revision : A1
Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 201MHz (201MHz)
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 804MB/s

Chipset 2
Model : AMD (Family 10h) Athlon64/Opteron/Sempron HyperTransport Technology Configuration
Revision : A1
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 2.01GHz (4.02GHz)
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 15.70GB/s

Logical/Chipset 2 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 2GB DDR2 5.0-5-4-8 CR3
Bank 1 : 2GB DDR2 5.0-5-4-8 CR3
Channels : 1
Bank Interleave : 2-way
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 536MHz (1.07GHz)
Multiplier : 8/3x
Width : 128-bit
Memory Controller in Processor : Yes
Cores per Memory Controller : 4 Unit(s)
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 16.75GB/s

[iocedmyself]

SiSoftware Sandra

Benchmark Results
Memory (Linear Access) Latency : 14ns
Speed Factor : 13.90
Results Interpretation : Lower index values are better.

Performance vs. Speed
Memory (Linear Access) Latency : 0.01ns/MHz
Results Interpretation : Lower index values are better.

Detailed Benchmark Results
1kB Range : 3clocks / 1ns
4kB Range : 3clocks / 1ns
16kB Range : 3clocks / 1ns
64kB Range : 3clocks / 1ns
256kB Range : 10clocks / 3ns
1MB Range : 22clocks / 7ns
4MB Range : 25clocks / 8ns
16MB Range : 44clocks / 15ns
64MB Range : 43clocks / 14ns

Performance Test Status
Run ID : AMD ??? (9600); 1x 4GB DDR2 PC2-17200 (5.0-5-4-8)
Platform Compliance : Win64 x64
System Timer : 14.32MHz
Memory Access : Linear

Processor
Model : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 940 Processor
Speed : 3.01GHz
Model Number : 9024
Cores per Processor : 4 Unit(s)
Type : Quad-Core
L2 On-board Cache : 4x 512kB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 16-way, 64 byte line size
L3 On-board Cache : 6MB, ECC, Synchronous, Write-Back, 48-way, 64 byte line size, 4 threads sharing

Chipset 1
Model : ASUS ??? (9600)
Revision : A1
Front Side Bus Speed : 1x 201MHz (201MHz)
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 804MB/s

Chipset 2
Model : AMD (Family 10h) Athlon64/Opteron/Sempron HyperTransport Technology Configuration
Revision : A1
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 2.01GHz (4.02GHz)
In/Out Width : 16-bit / 16-bit
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 15.70GB/s

Logical/Chipset 2 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 2GB DDR2 5.0-5-4-8 CR3
Bank 1 : 2GB DDR2 5.0-5-4-8 CR3
Channels : 1
Bank Interleave : 2-way
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 536MHz (1.07GHz)
Multiplier : 8/3x
Width : 128-bit
Memory Controller in Processor : Yes
Cores per Memory Controller : 4 Unit(s)
Maximum Memory Bus Bandwidth : 16.75GB/s

[SoF]

do you know the edit function? by the way I don't like sandra benches at all
€dit: finally I have 4 gig 32m running but 4.1 crashes 1m ^^ still no good ram clock even with current bios (P05).

[iocedmyself]

heh yeah i know the edit function but i hate seein those single posts that take an entire page. Others asked for sandra benches so i figured i may as well