Turbo
no no no you are kidding
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Turbo
no no no you are kidding
Colorful iGame GTX 460 1 GB
I'm hoping those cards OC to hell and back like the 500's do. At 900Mhz for both the 570 and the 580 they are in their own leagues and seems a bunch hit those freq. My poor 470 only hits 875Mhz max, 850Mhz 24/7 and I barely swipe past a stock 480 ( ). If those 6900's they can do a good 1100mhz probably without that PowerTune thing on, I bet you they'll be beasts. I just hope most of it can be done on the stock cooler or a decent waterblock.
Now that's interesting, since Perlin Noise focuses on shader throughput
So at +10% power, core clock doesn't fluctuate? But at default, core clocks change?
Feels like turbo boost for GPUs
What a trainwreck of a thread ... please 15th, save me, save us all.
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No, I don't say it automatically ups the clocks, it has a default clock and the tdp limit is there to make sure it doesn't go over it (the TDP), hence the redline at 800 MHz, while at default TDP the card will fluctuate between 650 and 800 (more 650 than 800) to maintain the lower TDP and thus limit performance.
If the card redlines at 800MHZ and 220W, you won't get extra performance at 250W, only if you OC.
Last edited by neliz; 12-13-2010 at 01:33 PM.
OOOOH Jesus Help meplease 15th, save me, save us all.
I don't get it - isn't the card's default clock 800? With the default TDP limit it will fail at achieving that consistently and will occasionally fall to 650 levels?
OH SHI- so this means that, even without any overclocking, if you flip the switch and up the TDP limit, you will get greater performance?
Oh right, sorry.
But, everything else was right?
Does the default TDP force the default clocks down (to below 800) occasionally? And if you were to up the TDP you'd get more performance?
I do think the initial "this card is very slow" reviews had to do with that, then. With newer drivers they were able to up the TDP limit and reach the true power of the card.
i will wait for the 15th so that we can figure out exactly what this whole power tune AM/FM radio switch power saving maybe turbo boost stuff is. because for AMD to have the card set to a TDP and raise or lower clocks to stay within that limit would be nothing short of pure stupidity. considering most people who buy this card have no interest in OCing and know little more then how to plug in a stick of RAM let alone do research to find out that to get the most performance out of their brand new $400+ video card they need to hit some stupid switch. I appreciate AMD trying to make the card as efficient as possible but at the cost of performance like that is way to far over the line...
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1100MHz using a waterblock? I was hoping for 1300-1400 with all those fancy turbo switches and stuff!
Besides, AMD promised really good OCing of these cards, since the power regulation is very similar to CPUs.
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What I think neliz is trying to say is this:
The TDP limit can be adjusted by a slider (+/- certain %)and the card adjusts core clock to keep card within the TDP limit (note: not heat, but TDP). The core clock is also the limit of how high the card will clock. That is, if you set TDP to +20% to 240W, but core clock is maintained at 800 MHz, the card will just stay flat at 800MHz at all times. However, adjust it to 900 MHz, and the card will run at 900MHz as long as it is within the TDP limit of 240W you set.
Example: With higher TDP limit, the core clock can be maintained higher - hence the chart shows that at +10% power, the core clock can be maintained at 800 MHz evenly.
To go above 800, you still have to OC the card - and you can adjust the TDP as well to maintain it if you want.
It feels like... turbo core for GPUs
Interesting stuff! It makes 2 x CaymanXT's feasible for 6990 since you can play around with power...
edit: I also think this is where the difference between 6970 and 6950 lies too. 6970 is at 880 MHz which is 10% higher clock than 6950. But its max TDP is allegedly set at 250W, or 25% more than the 200W of the 6950. So the 880 MHz clock can be maintained at a higher level more consistently than the 800MHz of the 6950.
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No... the 6970 is rated at 250W max apparently. Just going off that slide, you can see that in Perlin Noise, 6950 is 650<->800MHz at stock TDP limit. Once upped 10% to 220W, it runs consistently at 800 MHz.
The 250W limit of 6970 allows it to run up much higher at reference. In other words, the 6970 should have no problem maintaining at least 800MHz at all times with a 250W limit.
No, this apparently is set by AMD Overdrive or some new software, and will apply to everythingyes i think that it's going to throttle in such benchmarks, everything else doesn't make sense
Here is the Nvidia dual-GPU Monster to kick AMD HD 6990 but:
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nope it will be in everything. and that would make sense. It will give most users a lower power consumption by not using power they do not need. Which is basically fantastic. The only thing which would be better if you could use it with profiles or fps based. e.g. max 100fps and adjust power on that.
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