"Asus nFORCE2 (thread retitled)"

**terramir** · 01-29-2003, 10:36 PM

grrr and yuppie at the same time
#1 I had to turn it down to 174 x 11.5 to get it solid

, but then again on a brighter note I finally hit the 10k on 3d marks

and that is at default gforce speeds

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5480032
terramir

**sysfailur** · 01-29-2003, 11:02 PM

Well... this is fun! I haven't done the OS yet. I'm basically just testing OS stability at this point, as before I wasn't stable @ all....

I'm currently @ 245mhz FSB @ max 2-6-2-2. MMMmmm. YES. All that's left is 250mhz. And I felt that was pushing my luck so I didn't try for it. Tomorrow after I get back from picking up Gemini Blocks I will put it to 250mhz for §§§§s and giggles.

*high five's new battery*

I didn't take a digicam shot, but I didn't really feel the need. Trust me, it's there :P

After now a full day and and 5 hours or so temps on back of mobo under NF2 chip is @ -0.8C.

I'm thinking..... if she's stable in the bios @ 245, she's gotta be stable in windows @ 233-240 eh? I mean.. she's GOTTA :P

**Mikee** · 01-30-2003, 12:19 AM

I have a question about this battery fiasco. How the hell can a tiny 3v CMOS backup battery have any impact on a system that is being powered off AC while running?

I could see it causing an issue if the BIOS was not holding the settings, but there was another person crazy enough to replace the CMOS battery when he powered off the system, but left it plugged in (so the MOBO power indicator light below the PCI slots was on), and reportedly his BIOS readings were preserved.

Even if the idea is that there is some kind of isolated bios settings subsystem always generated off the CMOS battery, it also doesn't seem like it would be able to last the 5-7 years if it was actively being used all the time.

I wonder if anyone knows a reasonable explanation for this.

**sysfailur** · 01-30-2003, 12:33 AM

Hey Mikee, I dunno what the hell is causing the prob. But I'm liking the results

250mhz cas-2-6-2-2 @ 1.85v chipset, 3.15V DDR

Looks like I need a new bios!

**Mikee** · 01-30-2003, 02:00 AM

Holy §§§§.....That's incredible for this horrible POS ASUS board we are both stuck with !!! LOL WOW!!! But I still wonder why a CMOS battery would affect that, ya know? But I'm now gonna go get a new one even though mine is apparently ok too

**AMD Engineer** · 01-30-2003, 02:18 AM

YES, thats just awesome.

I am lokking for an new cpu so my OCZ´s can do what they are best at!

Nice pic sysfailur

/Steffan

**sysfailur** · 01-30-2003, 09:57 AM

Thank ya, and to let you guys know, like all the previous mhz frequencies, it's perfectly stable in the bios. I didn't mention that, but it's not like I just grabbed the digipic and it's not working. I have it going @ that overnight now

**muzz** · 01-30-2003, 09:59 AM

WTG Sys! ... Load that os and lets see what she can do!!:thumbsup:

**AMD Engineer** · 01-30-2003, 10:40 AM

Ok, this is getting interresting!

Do u guys think all the voltmodds are nessesary for these high FSB runs?

I would like to keep my board as stock, but if volmodding is nessesary ill do it.

/Steffan

**terramir** · 01-30-2003, 03:29 PM

Ok didn't help me one bit overclocking my FSB that is I changed the battery last night and no dice

I must have one bad mem module there somehow grrrrrr Running 2 512 mb corsair xms 3500 c2 grr can't get it to run @ 200 in sync highest I can push it is 184 and that is unstable grr highest stable 174 x 11.5 x but I can run it at 200 x 10.0x rock stable with 75% mem speed this is strange :s
terramir
I'm going home and taking the mem modules and testing them seperately
lets see, which one can go higher and the otherone is being rma'ed first grrrr

**Pjotr** · 01-30-2003, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by terramir
Ok didn't help me one bit overclocking my FSB that is I changed the battery last night and no dice I must have one bad mem module there somehow grrrrrr Running 2 512 mb corsair xms 3500 c2 grr can't get it to run @ 200 in sync highest I can push it is 184 and that is unstable grr highest stable 174 x 11.5 x but I can run it at 200 x 10.0x rock stable with 75% mem speed this is strange :s
terramir
I'm going home and taking the mem modules and testing them seperately
lets see, which one can go higher and the otherone is being rma'ed first grrrr

Did you try setting the FSB jumper to 100 MHz?

**Retupmoc** · 01-30-2003, 04:23 PM

Dude...turn that font down buddy...lol...or maybe its just me...but its freak'n huge!

**Mikee** · 01-30-2003, 04:29 PM

I think we got the point on the mega-mega sized signature there Pjotr, ;-) but what jumper are you talking about?

The only jumper I am aware of is the one on page 21 called "CPU_FSB" that allows FSB 333/266 (default) or FSB 200 only. Maybe the 200 is the effect with the dual memory channel?

I have not seen anyone suggesting moving that jumper, and have not myself, so I'm wondering why you said that.

Hey Terramir, could you also say your system setup for:

Which memory slots you are using (slot 1 is closest to CPU; slots 1&2 are for memory channel one; slot 3 is for mem. channel two).
Which BIOS
What voltage, mem timings.
Which power supply (type & watts).
Which BIOS devices do you have enabled/disabled like onboard sound, USB-2, IEEE, etc.
If you reset the CMOS, what BIOS FSB shows up as default?
What do you mean when you say "it doesn't work" Do you mean you cannot POST, get into windows, run benchmarks, run games, etc.

I have always run mine at 100%, and am now using 1002.001 (not Uber) (or in 1001-C, it was called 'sync')

**terramir** · 01-30-2003, 07:19 PM

Tried that actually that was worse not better

,
I will be doing some tests tonight and I will get back to you guys tommorow grrr
one of these sticks is going back maybe both.
terramir

**BobyJo** · 01-30-2003, 08:47 PM

You want to install your memory sticks into slot 2&3 or for best performance (according to ASUS) into slots 1&3.
Never install the memory into slots 1&2 for dual memory.
We have been in the computer business (off & on) since 1989. Guess we have expierenced about everything that could be expierenced. These new nForce mobo's are really great. Especially the ASUS line, why not get all the bells and whistles if you are gonna go for the whole pie.
I like the dual NIC's,8 USB ports,onboard sound that is good. (I hope the new mobo coming tomorrow has all the surround sound channels)
That is the only fault I have found with the mobo we have at present. This was one of the first nForce2 mobo produced by ASUS when they first was available.
Never a boot problem, never a BSOD, never a lockup, all the games play extremely smooth.
Performance is great, I tweak the memory a little and set the voltage at 2.8v.
That is all that is necessary on this mobo.
Why in your part are you sweating this so much?
Assemble, powerup,tweak,and enjoy after a good burnin period.

**sysfailur** · 01-30-2003, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by BobyJo

That is all that is necessary on this mobo.

For an average user, yes. For me that's not enough :P

**Mikee** · 01-30-2003, 09:46 PM

You mean you don't work for Gateway Sys? Don't burst my bubble!!! LOL!

Also BobyJo, most have found that slots 2&3 give better performance than 1&3. I don't know why, just reporting on having read that in many many posts. I have become suspect at hearing advice from ASUS when seeing their progressive BIOS releases get worse.

1001-C was ok, 1001-E was not quite as stable, 1001-G was horrible. Next came their Beta's 1002.001 was great! 1002.003 Beta was not as stable, 1002.004 was horrible.

Prior to their Final 1002 version, most either used 1001-C or 1002.001 Beta. I am not likely to bother with their final 1002 unless others report dramatic improvements.

Finally, there is a problem with their CMOS Maxell batteries that they have not pro-actively acknowledged, and that measures lower than the 3.0 V battery characteristic.

While I believe it is still the best overall MOBO, and am glad I got it, ASUS doesn't have a good track record before this MOBO when it comes to OC'ing and features....it is the silicon radicals like DD Tung, SysFailur, Mr. Icee and others that are uncovering the good, bad, and fixes. God Bless 'em.

**BobyJo** · 01-30-2003, 10:30 PM

Well I am running the Uber1002 bios and find it very interesting. At the least I like it enough to leave the computer running with it.
Sysfailure:

on't take me wrong, I can tweak everything as well as most.
I just don't express that to the general public. I do not deliver a system OC'ed.
That is up to the owner, if he wants to see how high the moon is, after he takes over the system.
He can do about whatever he wants as long as he does not open the case, the warranty is usually still entact.
I only use the best quality components, and I know how far I can push the system in benchs, I do enclude a performance sheet. Explaining the maximum performance we found in our shop.
Also explain as the system is used it will began to perform better with use. Sorta like breaking in a new car.
I have had a customer ask me to build a system for him and OC' to the max before shipping to him.
I simply refused to build the system for him due to the fact he did not understand any principals of tweaking or OC'ing a computer. Were probably more than likely on the same side of the street, you may be taking the corners faster than I do.

**terramir** · 01-30-2003, 11:41 PM

GRRRRRR I benched both sticks and both crapped out around 184 sync and I'm not oC'ing the processor or the videocard agp bus mem voltage 2.7 or 2.8 and I get a blue screen during 3D mark
this is screwed grrrr
some irq less or equal §§§§ nvsys wierd considering it doesn't crap out at 200 with 75 % memory HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP anybody know what I'm doing cpu at stock speed ev bus standard and this is a retail xp 2400 not unlocked using the 1002.001 bios at stock speed =- 5 mhz grrr
173 halfways stable
166 seems solid but forget 184 craps out one or two sticks grrr
hey this sucks
I heard something about different caps on different versions of this board can anyone tell me about that?
and What the hell do I do about this I don't have an other board to test the memory on this board much less the vid card etc.
this was my greatest wish an xp at stock with a 200/400 fsb grr not do able what is it the board? the corsair memory?
Oh well it's doable with 75% memory but then again it boots at default 133 with 200 memory seems fine but the bandwidth is worse that 133 sync

terramir
sorry for being whiney but this was supposed to be my first big review

**NUNEZ1980** · 01-31-2003, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by Pjotr
Did you try setting the FSB jumper to 100 MHz?

what does this do

**sysfailur** · 01-31-2003, 12:37 AM

@ everyone: .... shows over. Reinstalled os and it's a no go... stable @ 166mhz but sound is messed up. I figured out what's wrong with that though. I'm getting HELLA static from the "Line Input" so I muted it and it was fine. So right now, my mobo DOES work fine @ 166mhz, but.... I can't hit ANY good fsb speeds. I'm totally confused as to what's going on.

Also as for the 250mhz in the bios... I turned it off connected drives, it wouldn't boot @ 250mhz w/ drives. I turned off again, restarted it up.... it got into bios @ 100mhz, I just F10'ed it and it restarted, this time booting WITH drives @ 250mhz but it locked @ the memory test.

I knocked it down to 240mhz, it booted good.. I actually started installing windows @ 240mhz, but after it loads up the inital setup files it doesn't go past "Windows Setup Loading..." right before you hit "ENTER", then "F8". I'm sure you guys have done that a zillion times, I know I have.

So... I tried 200mhz which I've done before, and still it won't go. 166mhz did work though. So I installed windows @ 166mhz (stock) and then I thought "ok I'll try 200mhz" after installing appropriate drivers... I know 100% that previously it would work @ 200mhz--that my mobo was capable. But it didn't load.

So basically if it's not working at that, it's no use to me. It's trash. Saturday there is a computer show (and Sunday) so I'll pick up a mobo there, and RMA mine to newegg. Buncha BS I tell ya. Also, I may not get an A7N8X tomorrow althought I'm gonna try, but I need SOMETHIN in the mean time, so whatever is best I'll get.

@ Mikee: Unfortunately I do not. *sob* :P

@ BobyJo: Ahh I see. Well if someone wants a comptuer built and overclocked, I'll do it. But they have to understand that it is overclocked, and it's their responsibility to know that and take care of it. Anyway that's just me.

@ terramir: Sounds like the mobo is borked. The Ruby / Nic capacitor thread is somewhere on the forum, forget where though. I don't think it really makes a big diff. though if you ask me.

**NUNEZ1980** · 01-31-2003, 12:45 AM

sorry to hear sysfailur

to my luck, why north bridge lick water, and boom board gone, so I ordered the epox to check it out, but today I try the board again and it works

, but I guess I will still keep the epox just incase, on the other hand the asus is running nicely, and after putting a new battery the issue I had before about the volts to the cpu are less noticible, ok, laters and I hope everything works ok

**Retupmoc** · 01-31-2003, 05:18 AM

GET AN EPOX 8RDA+!!!!

Its a really sweet board for o/c'ing and I really want one. Almost about to get one!

**Pjotr** · 01-31-2003, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by NUNEZ1980
what does this do

To some it gives the same effect as changing 333 MHz FSB CPUs to 266 MHz. The board changes some settings which changes how far you can clock the FSB.

**NUNEZ1980** · 01-31-2003, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by Pjotr
To some it gives the same effect as changing 333 MHz FSB CPUs to 266 MHz. The board changes some settings which changes how far you can clock the FSB.

hi there,

where can I find some more info, and it is jumper?, manual listed?

thnx, right now I'm over 230, and if that helps more, good info

Thread: "Asus nFORCE2 (thread retitled)"

Thread Tools

Search Thread

Rate This Thread

Display

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions