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    Dothan/FX comparo

    Can someone with an FX55 (preferrably 90nM) run a sPi 1M @ 11 x 273 with TCCD, 2.5-3-3-7 Winxp, only tweak=priority.
    Trying to get a feel for how the Dothan power stacks up to AMD's finest silicon.

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    man that's sick
    what cooling ?
    what the exact system specs ?
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    ASUS P4C800E-Dlx + CT-479 Adapter
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    MUSHKIN BLACK HiPerf PC4400 @ 273mHz, 1:1, 2.5-3-3 PAT enabled 2.85v
    Chilly1 mod Autocascade @ -65C

    I was getting REALLY bad contact (corner of CPU) but saw about 3200mHz, -39C in MBM5 one sec, +3C the next... will have to figure out a good way to mount the darn evap
    It's about 2 seconds faster than my 4000+ SD at the same speed...

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    Charlie.....heres with all eye candies turned on and not optimized......FX BN beaten...badly
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    eh i dono, yea its faster... dothon is also currently limited to 32-bit... alot of factors can play in this besides just cpu, such as motherboards, psu's, etc...

    imho the dothons was bred for gaming and benching, anything out side of that its helpless

    but im impressed by the current dothons, just hope they take over the Pentium line and save Intel's rear from A64, AMD needs to see some competition, lol...

    thumbs up for the Dothons, but the prices are still horrid on the chips

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    Bottleneck will be the P4's Netburst bus - it always has been and continues to be even with the new 955 chipset and 1066Mhz support.

    Dothan with Intergrated mem controller will be unbeatable.

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    Thumbs up for Dothan. That is insane Charlie! I think Intel need to look closely at this Dothan and give AMD a serious butt kicking on the Desktop gaming arena.
    I have been canvassing for a 1066MHz hypertransport bus with an ondie DDR2 memory controller on Dothan. That will be a killer chip. But Intel seems complacant and okay with what they get from Dell.

    Charlie can you please run 32-bit sciencemark 2.0 at say 2805MHz(255*11) at 2.5-3-3-6. I will like to compare it with my A64 SD.
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    looking good charlie...nice work

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    Good comparison there Charlie and Dumo...

    What else can you say about Dothans other than they are SICK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13oost
    eh i dono, yea its faster... dothon is also currently limited to 32-bit... alot of factors can play in this besides just cpu, such as motherboards, psu's, etc...

    imho the dothons was bred for gaming and benching, anything out side of that its helpless

    but im impressed by the current dothons, just hope they take over the Pentium line and save Intel's rear from A64, AMD needs to see some competition, lol...

    thumbs up for the Dothons, but the prices are still horrid on the chips
    This reminds me of when A64 first came out, and Intel lost EVERY major benchie, 3D, Pi, etc, etc... and the Intel defenders would pop up and say "How about Video Encoding", or some other irrelevant measure, lol... the tables have turned and now people say, "Well how about 64 bit support and how well does it unzip files and display .pdf's"???
    For today's use, gaming and benching, surfing, watching video and listening to music, the Dothan is faster than FX55...

    BUT, it's not time to dump your A64 just yet, lol... AMR and ATI's new boards will rescue A64. With AMR technology A64 will KILL Dothan in 3D.

    Prices HORRID on Dothan chips??

    LOL!!

    730 is commonly avail at $135-$165, good for 2700mHz on AIR = 26s Spi time
    740 around $200
    750 around $250

    The 760 and 770 are not even desirable for desktop use because of the "too high" multi!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie
    This reminds me of when A64 first came out, and Intel lost EVERY major benchie, 3D, Pi, etc, etc... and the Intel defenders would pop up and say "How about Video Encoding", or some other irrelevant measure, lol... the tables have turned and now people say, "Well how about 64 bit support and how well does it unzip files and display .pdf's"???
    For today's use, gaming and benching, surfing, watching video and listening to music, the Dothan is faster than FX55...

    BUT, it's not time to dump your A64 just yet, lol... AMR and ATI's new boards will rescue A64. With AMR technology A64 will KILL Dothan in 3D.

    Prices HORRID on Dothan chips??

    LOL!!

    730 is commonly avail at $135-$165, good for 2700mHz on AIR = 26s Spi time
    740 around $200
    750 around $250

    The 760 and 770 are not even desirable for desktop use because of the "too high" multi!!

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    How much does the adaptor cost tho?

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    $50 adapter
    refurb'd P4C800E-Dlx from Newegg $90 or refurb'd P4P800-Dlx for $70
    P-M 730 $140

    rig=$280 maybe...

    BIGGEST drawback on this platform is that UTT does NOT work well, so you have to run old BH5/6 or Ballistix or 2.5-3-3 PC4400

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    I dunno if i would wanna run a p-m sytem 24/7 tho... i uno why

    I still see it as a tinker toy

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie
    BIGGEST drawback on this platform is that UTT does NOT work well, so you have to run old BH5/6 or Ballistix or 2.5-3-3 PC4400

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    Why exactly?

    I was thinking of building a 24/7 use Dothan rig but this kinda scares me off as I've always been the 2-2-2 timings fan and, for example, OCZ Value VX is so cheap now you simply cannot resist buying it
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    Quote Originally Posted by AMD-me
    I dunno if i would wanna run a p-m sytem 24/7 tho... i uno why

    I still see it as a tinker toy
    I know what you mean.... and kinda' agree. For a new 24/7 rig I'd like the new Sapphire board with AMR and a pair of x850's and a 4800+ X2 CPU...

    It's all about "high Tech", we all like it. And we ALL look down on this OLD P4C series of boards and it's AGP and DDR and limited RAID options and "only" 4 x SATA ports, single LAN connector, etc, etc...

    If someone woke up and made a nF4 platform or an ATI Xpress platform for a Pentium M, we'd all be in trouble.

    Oh and BTW, Pentium M looks to be the "foundation" for the new APPLE next generation computers.... watch press releases tommorrow!

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    Does Dothan like TCCD and high fsb? Thinking of 300++
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrlobber
    Why exactly?

    I was thinking of building a 24/7 use Dothan rig but this kinda scares me off as I've always been the 2-2-2 timings fan and, for example, OCZ Value VX is so cheap now you simply cannot resist buying it
    ...wish I knew
    I have some EXTREMELY KILLER 280mHz Redline XP4000 I'd LOVE to use!



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    Quote Originally Posted by furyfax
    Does Dothan like TCCD and high fsb? Thinking of 300++
    Possibly.... I have a set of 2 x 256mB G.Skill LA that run 300+ at 2.5-3-3, I'll try them too.

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    charlie and Dumo, can you run SuperPI 8M, please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie
    Prices HORRID on Dothan chips??

    LOL!!

    730 is commonly avail at $135-$165, good for 2700mHz on AIR = 26s Spi time
    740 around $200
    750 around $250

    The 760 and 770 are not even desirable for desktop use because of the "too high" multi!!

    C
    me coulpa (sp?)

    just saying that the FX-55 is capable of way more than the dothon is....

    dothon should be intel's next big hitter if they develop it right...

    im not crapping on it, just saying that there is differences, but the differences couldnt make up for the few seconds in super pi 1M

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    Quite a feat really

    It gives reason to think when a cheap setup with cheap and seemingly outdated parts beats the best there is. If Intel got down to work they could deliver some heavy fire-power.

    A $280 setup beat a CPU which costs three times as much alone. Quite interesting
    In short, both AMD and NVIDIA discovered that their next-generation graphics cards are superior to each others' last-generation graphics cards.

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    there is only 1 big problem! no perfect (dfi nf-4 is perfect ) motherbord for dothan... its so hard to chose asus board for ct-479 i will risk and buy p4gd1 only because pci-e
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juliette
    Quite a feat really

    It gives reason to think when a cheap setup with cheap and seemingly outdated parts beats the best there is. If Intel got down to work they could deliver some heavy fire-power.

    A $280 setup beat a CPU which costs three times as much alone. Quite interesting
    Couldn't of said it better myself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie
    If someone woke up and made a nF4 platform or an ATI Xpress platform for a Pentium M, we'd all be in trouble.
    http://club.aopen.com.tw/news/News_S...nguage=English

    Unfortunatly AOpen can't integrate the memory controller into the CPU, that's still up to Intel. And Intel being the huge corporation that it is changes in strategy take time (and they can affort is easily).
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