OCZ PC3200 Gold new BH5 die + DFI NF4 SLI-D Part2

[Eldonko]

I would be interested to see some more 3200 gold results myself. After the VX price drop, the difference in price between 3200vx and 3200 gold is only $32 Canadian.

My goal is 260 @ 2-2-2, which has a better chance of reaching this with an average pair?

[perkam]

I just going by my own experiences with both PC3200 Gold and GoldVX OCZ themselves has said PC3200 GoldVX expect around 240mhz.. yeah but lack of PC3200 Gold results except with other users in this thread..

Plus Australia doesn't get many different brands of ram to choose from. Here PC3200 GoldVX costs AUD$379-389 and PC4000 GoldVX costs AUD$419-439 vs Gold PC3200 BH-5 AUD$315-319

I understand what you're saying there...its the cheapest good ram ever here in Canada @ $220 for 1GB kit...which is amazing...but unless you're eva 2000 , its really hard to convince yourself that A. You wont burn it with high voltages or B. You WILL get results over 260...

Though, are you sure 3200 VX doesnt do 260+ on avg ????...I mean 4000VX isnt using any different chips...

Perkam

[perkam]

I would be interested to see some more 3200 gold results myself. After the VX price drop, the difference in price between 3200vx and 3200 gold is only $32 Canadian.

My goal is 260 @ 2-2-2, which has a better chance of reaching this with an average pair?

LOL you're lucky you dont have to pay as much tax ...Ontario - 15%

Though yeah I wouldn't mind an answer to that question by someone OTHER than eva too , seems like eva's doing all the work here...

Maybe we should get OPP in on this, along with bigtoe/randy and have some nachos 'n cheese...nothing serious ofcourse

Perkam

[eva2000]

Pretty sure PC3200 GoldVX won't have average clocks of 260mhz... just search the forums and that big UTT CH-5 thread for PC3200 GoldVX. The PC4000 GoldVX are much better than PC3200 GoldVX usually talking less vdimm to do same clocks but even than 265mhz ain't the average for PC4000 GoldVX, more like 255-260mhz.

Don't confuse semi-stable or 3d benchable screenie shots of ram at 265-266mhz as fully stable

[eva2000]

I understand what you're saying there...its the cheapest good ram ever here in Canada @ $220 for 1GB kit...which is amazing...but unless you're eva 2000 , its really hard to convince yourself that A. You wont burn it with high voltages or B. You WILL get results over 260...

Though, are you sure 3200 VX doesnt do 260+ on avg ????...I mean 4000VX isnt using any different chips...

Perkam

yeah if warranty is of higher priority than results then PC4000 GoldVX would be the choice... but best to try both

of course the rare best pair of PC4000 GoldVX will do higher than best PC3200 Gold BH-5

[Eldonko]

Pretty sure PC3200 GoldVX won't have average clocks of 260mhz... just search the forums and that big UTT CH-5 thread for PC3200 GoldVX. The PC4000 GoldVX are much better than PC3200 GoldVX usually talking less vdimm to do same clocks but even than 265mhz ain't the average for PC4000 GoldVX, more like 255-260mhz.

Don't confuse semi-stable or 3d benchable screenie shots of ram at 265-266mhz as fully stable

Heh yeah the problem with 4000VX is there was no price drop and its $100 more than 3200vx. If I was going to spend that kinda money on more RAM I would just get a set of OCZpc5000DFI or Gskill 4400LE and would have an option of running 4x512 in the future.

However, I am too greedy to pay $400 for memory now, I paid that for my 3200EL Rev 2 and it has dropped like $100 already =/

I am looking for a 2x512 that will do 260 for $250 or less. Too bad it's impossible to get TWINMOS around here and I already had bad experiences with Mush Blue.

OT - Perk I know what you mean, I am from NS so I am loving 10% less tax here Helps that one of the best computer stores in Canada is in town too so I don't have to pay shipping.

[Tony]

Ok here is my take on the gold3200 Vs VX debate.

The gold 3200 is a BH die, it does 2-2-2 at lower voltage than the VX at 200fsb, infact some modules do 2-2-2 at 2.6V easy but we spec 2.8.

The VX is a pure enthusiast part, we gave the option for value VX so that you could take your own chances with overclocking but the price is real cheap. The 3200VX is tested 200 2-2-2 and we make sure of some headroom, the 4000VX is a ddr500 part 2-2-2 and the warranty reflects this.

So...we had some changes to the gold definition, gold is gamers, good performance and good price, issue is some is as good as the platinum but thats just OCZ being generous as usual

Now I know VX is fast..but the 3200Gold can be too...it all depends on how much and how far you push

[The Mofo]

u probably need some cooling on it.

Ive got a 120mm fan blowing on them.

[situman]

o sorry, luck of the draw I guess

[Rabbi_NZ]

For those wanting the average clocks CH-UTT can do (OCZ VX for example) check out this thread:
MEMORY Voltage Scaling, please contribute...

[FireDragon]

CH-UTT 260 at 3.3...cas 1.5...I have the other timmings written down at home but i am at school...that si with the PC3200 GoldVX...I have heat sinks on them..so im going to buy some XP4000 BH-CH/UTT on the Mushkin PCB and going to run it with TEC for now then with my chiller once I finish that...

My point is that these chips are ALL the same yet SO differnt in what they can do...

Dragon

[Funny_S]

:drool: me wants some, bought myself 2*512mb bh-5 twinmos but one stick is f*vked up and can only do 2-3-2-5

[eva2000]

The ram on san diego does 8mhz better than what these 2x 512MB OCZ PC3200 Gold UTT BH-5 could do on my winnies/clawhammers

[Rabbi_NZ]

SHeeet thats a huge improvement Eva! Congrats man

I am THIS close to getting the 754 equivalent...

Did you have to have Trc & Trfc that loose?
Usually BH dies do Trfc a fair bit tighter than CH dies thats all

[eva2000]

i could tighten them but that usually means more vdimm than what i used above .. i could do superpi 1M to 8M at trc 7 and trfc of 15 but superpi 16M and 32M needs to loosen when only 3.64v vdimm is used.

[gocchin]

Thanks for the great thread eva, I was struggling for weeks with vx so after
reading your writeup I picked up a brand new set for soooooo cheap and
popped them into my dfi at 3.5v with your timings and I'm pretty happy so
far.... not bad for zero burn in and first run... I didn't even try lower... I went
straight to 260

[eva2000]

gocchin sounds like your modules are like mine without burn in hitting 260mhz

[eva2000]

well upped the multiplier for some superpi runs with 2x 512MB OCZ PC3200 Gold UTT BH-5 with 414-3 bios and orange dimm slots

@267mhz 1.5-2-2-6 7-17-3-2-1-3 at 3.64v

[eva2000]

[Eldonko]

Great job eva2000. I picked up a set of this stuff today, will post my results this weekend. You using the 5v rail or the 3.3 with the jumper mod for 3.6v?

[Boogotop]

i finally get my OCZ Gold BH die to run fast in desynch

not good as in asynch but not bad for starting

[Minnyboy]

Been playing with my new set of PC3200 GOLD after the first set turned out to be faulty...

I noticed that with any of my Winchesters I could only get 220 max, no matter what volts were applied...

My 3500+ Winchester was less than 220 & my CAA2C 3500+ would not like these PC3200 GOLD...

Just got a 3200+ Venice earlier this week & the results amaze me...

With just a different CPU I can get more MHz from less voltages...

Been up to 240HTT 1:1 now with the settings in my sig... I tried last night to take it further but it seems my set is just average... It won't reach 245 even with more volts... Errors pop up rapidly in Memtest...

Funny thing is: I sold my 2x512MB XMS3500 for AUD$330 & bought some VX4000 (faulty) for $420 & ended up getting my money back & getting these PC3200 GOLD for $320... Big merry go round... I only sold my XMS3500 because it didn't like my K8N neo2 board... Maybe I should've kept the XMS for the DFI...

Either way, I ended up getting back my best results with the PC3200 GOLD as I got with my XMS3500...

[eva2000]

Great job eva2000. I picked up a set of this stuff today, will post my results this weekend. You using the 5v rail or the 3.3 with the jumper mod for 3.6v?

i use 5v jumper but see my pm reply on ABXzone for more details heh

Minnyboy, good to hear there's progress with your OCZ PC3200 Gold adventures

[Eldonko]

i use 5v jumper but see my pm reply on ABXzone for more details heh

I am using the vdimm jumper trick and tweaking the PS pots for volts from 3.3v rail. I am using a multimeter and find the voltage is very stable and the BIOS is almost perfect in measuring the volts on the 3.3. After 1 night of testing I have 240Mhz @ 3.4v stable so far. I am letting it burn in all day and will prolly have the RAMs limit tonight. Last night I gave 255 a try but got a bunch of errors in memtest, not thousands though so I am hoping its something I can sort out with tweaking.

Using 0510-3 atm but I'm going to flash in 0414-3 tonight as per your recommendation. I wonder if its safe to flash with the vdimm jumper mod or if I should switch it back to regular 3.3 position first. .

I haven't tried any dividers yet, you didn’t have problems with dividers and stability? I know with my Value VX the stuff won't run a divider at all, no matter what the BIOS

Thanks for the reply at abx, you seem to be the expert with this stuff

[gocchin]

I thought DFI bios ending in -3 were optimized for TCCD, and -2 for UTT/BH5?