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Thread: A7N8X Deluxe capacitors - Rubycon or Nichicon?

  1. 01-06-2003, 01:46 PM #1
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    Question A7N8X Deluxe capacitors - Rubycon or Nichicon?

    I set up 3 A7N8X Deluxe boards and one of them has Nichicon caps. The board with the Nichicon caps runs smoother (stability, no graphics artifacts/tearing) at 207 FSB than the ones with Rubycon caps. Same components, settings, cooling tried on all three boards; no mods.

    A7N8X Deluxe 1.04 with Nichicon caps

    A7N8X Deluxe 1.04 with Rubycon caps

    Just wondering if the different brand caps are making a difference, and if anyone else had opportunity to compare what are your observations.

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  2. 01-06-2003, 01:53 PM #2
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    The Nichicon caps...tho the same rating as the Rubycon's, have always set themselves apart on ABIT boards I've owned in that the voltages were better, more stable and as you demonstrated, overly smooth especially when overclocking. They are just a higher quality item IMHO.

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  3. 01-07-2003, 09:23 AM #3
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    ยงยงยงยง! why do I always end up with the cheap stuff.
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  4. 01-07-2003, 09:49 AM #4
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    hi scott,
    which one is newer? did you notice any difference of the coil placement near the fan header?
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  5. 01-07-2003, 11:00 AM #5
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    Originally posted by beatnic
    hi scott,
    which one is newer? did you notice any difference of the coil placement near the fan header?
    beatnic,

    Here are receipt dates, all boards from NewEgg

    Board 1 received 11/21/02, serial # 2BZG0F0xxx, Rubycon caps. Low achiever - can't break 190.

    Board 2 received 12/18/02, serial # 2CZG0F0xxx, Rubycon caps. Coil by power fan header was installed out-of-spec. Coil nearly touching/shorting onto the outermost pin of the power fan header. Power fan header unusable.

    Board 3 received 12/21/02 (Saturday delivery), serial # 2CZG0B8xxx, Nichicon caps.

    Appears board #2 has higher serial number than board #3. I'm assuming it came from the same NewEgg shipment as board #3. Mixed bag w/respect to cap-brand I guess.
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  6. 01-07-2003, 04:23 PM #6
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    Mine has Nichicon caps. Snr 2CZG0D2362, came with G BIOS (2002-12-06), got it 2002-12-27, store got it 2002-12-23.

    Unfortunatly mine has a rken Fash chp, I can't flash anything onto it, it's being RMAd this week.
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  7. 01-07-2003, 04:51 PM #7
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    i got nichion and does 220 fsb
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  8. 01-07-2003, 05:02 PM #8
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    ummm.. seem that most newer boards came with Nichicon caps.. i'm getting another one from Komplett.. wish me luck (pray)
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  9. 01-07-2003, 05:43 PM #9
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    I've got to RMA mine to Komplett.se, so I'll get another one from there too I guess. :-)
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  10. 01-07-2003, 06:20 PM #10
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    I have Rubicons and the board runs 211 MHz
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  11. 01-07-2003, 11:53 PM #11
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    I just hit 18,150 in 3dMark2001 by cranking my Radeon up to 403/353 and BIOS 1002 at 197x11.5 1.85v Timings of 5-2-3-2, and I have the Rube Goldberg's also.

    I might be able to go higher, but without a volt mod, I'm really happy with this...rubycons or nichicons. I can't even pronounce those, let alone understand their nuances.
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  12. 01-08-2003, 12:36 AM #12
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    Well, that blows that theory out of the water. Congrats on the score.
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    Got the Rubycons, and board runs fine at 200fsb. Does exhibit some tearing in 3D at times, but then I haven't put AS3 on my NB yet. Adding a small fan will probably help too. But windows is fine.
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  14. 01-08-2003, 02:56 AM #14
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    I've got the Nichicon caps on mine! I bought mine the day it was released on Newegg--whenever that was.

    Btw when I looked @ my mobo, I realized that I have freakin dust all over my computer!!!!!! This is unacceptable I tell you! It's been running open-desk since I got it. I can't believe this! RARR! I need a freakin clean room!
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    Originally posted by mrbucket
    i got nichion and does 220 fsb
    I'm thinking that's a typo, or I'm thinking you have an 8RDA+ and you didn't realize he was asking about the A7N8X... but I'm HOPING that A: You have some kinda BIOS that let's you go to 220mhz fsb, or B: you have a software program for higher FSB.

    But I have a feeling you just typo'ed.

    Btw, speaking of software fsb programs, I talked w/ the guy who makes setFSB and he said he's working on an nforce2 version *weeee*
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  16. 01-08-2003, 03:21 AM #16
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    Originally posted by sysfailur
    I'm thinking that's a typo
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&threadid=7706
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  17. 01-08-2003, 07:03 AM #17
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    my a7n8x deluxe has the rubycons and does 3d mark at 207 with a ti4600 and corsair 3500. it will run 3dmark at 211 but the flashing kills the score. here is my compare http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5560299
    too bad card will only do 352/780 wish i could get the core up!
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    Originally posted by sysfailur
    I'm thinking that's a typo, or I'm thinking you have an 8RDA+ and you didn't realize he was asking about the A7N8X... but I'm HOPING that A: You have some kinda BIOS that let's you go to 220mhz fsb, or B: you have a software program for higher FSB.

    But I have a feeling you just typo'ed.

    Btw, speaking of software fsb programs, I talked w/ the guy who makes setFSB and he said he's working on an nforce2 version *weeee*
    Latest BIOS allows up to 250 MHz.
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    Originally posted by N8
    lol @ sys
    Yeah yeah I missed that! Excuse me! I have been sleep deprived! I saw "new bios" in my thread and I was like "oh wee a new bios" but I didn't see "250mhz capable".

    I got so excited I hosed my OS :P
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    Originally posted by sysfailur


    I got so excited I hosed my OS :P
    Exactly why we need the VDD mod!

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  22. 01-08-2003, 03:28 PM #22
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    Originally posted by nikhsub1
    Exactly why we need the VDD mod!
    If you were looking, here it is:

    http://www.maximumoc.com/reviews/asusa7n8x_3.html
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    Originally posted by Pjotr
    If you were looking, here it is:

    http://www.maximumoc.com/reviews/asusa7n8x_3.html
    No that is for VCORE and VDIMM, I already did those, I/we need the VDD mod (chipset).

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  24. 01-08-2003, 08:59 PM #24
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    hmm, i have rubies on my current system, only stable at 200. i have just been content after cutting the 3rd L12 to get from 185 to 200 stable. now this! i have a second i have not built yet. i looked at it and it has nich caps. ffs! hmm, debate, tear down and rebuild? so, more trial and error on this theory would be sweet.
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    I got rubbies, and the board has yet to turned on for the first time, im gettgin everything I need this weekend and im my Via Water Pump by Monday. :/ I will ell ya how the rubbies run, funny sys, i got mine very early the first day it was available back in Nov 12? or whatever Wed. that was. I paid 200 for it since i really wanted this baby but got 54 back form newegg when it went down in price. But now with the 250Mhz FSB weeee let me strap on my new MCW5000-A 2400+ @ (Sky's the limit ) and let it roll with Corsair 3500
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