black viper regestry patch

[kev182]

just a warning guys, if you want to disable services manually use "services.msc" not msconfig.....Black Viper said this in big bold letters on his guide

[kristos]

http://users.skynet.be/MesjogemeH/SafeProAllstart.zip (don't remember what this one does)
http://users.skynet.be/MesjogemeH/SuperTProAllstart.zip (disables pretty much everything, also has pagefiledisable tweak and sets everyting to "performance", maybe more)
http://users.skynet.be/MesjogemeH/DefaultProAll.zip (this is a no-brainer )
http://users.skynet.be/MesjogemeH/GamingProAllstart.zip (for gamers = mildly tweaked)

PS: tweaks are for win xp pro sp1

PPS: use at your own risk!! They may bork your OS

[teqguy]

just a warning guys, if you want to disable services manually use "services.msc" not msconfig.....Black Viper said this in big bold letters on his guide

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...242#post835242




Kristos, as always, it's advisable to refrain from the use of automatic patches, because every system is different. What works for one system might entirely #&*% up another.

And after that happens, what dependencies does the user have to rely on?

[psy^]

Personally i prefer to do all this stuff manually.
Shame blkviper's site has been down so long, but here's a guide which is just as good. Just remember to play it safe and use a little common sense when disabling the "risky" services

Following that, i managed to get my 24/7 config down to 17 services.
XP x64 boots virtually instantly now

[bachus_anonym]

It has been so long and you guys still haven't found those patches?
Here you go then All three for Windows XP. Have fun!

[kristos]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...242#post835242




Kristos, as always, it's advisable to refrain from the use of automatic patches, because every system is different. What works for one system might entirely #&*% up another.

And after that happens, what dependencies does the user have to rely on?

uhm, these aren't mine, these are blackvipers patches wich I still had on my computer and since so many were asking for them, I just uploaded them to my webspace...

i figured since this is XS, people would know the risks of using patches or anything else that might bork your system... but I'll add a note in my previous post...

[ZMarre]

Like I said allready a load of times before, nothing easier then using WinLite to strip your Windows install.

I decreased my 600MB installCD to 95MB

When I format my HDD, zeven minutes later I'm allready benchin'

Takes 60MB of ram on the desktop (9 threads)

[illidan]

Like I said allready a load of times before, nothing easier then using WinLite to strip your Windows install.

I decreased my 600MB installCD to 95MB

When I format my HDD, zeven minutes later I'm allready benchin'

Takes 60MB of ram on the desktop (9 threads)

Can u show us a screen capture with Task Manager

[[XC] 4X4N]

this is junk
i had to reinstal windows god damn't...
blackviper my ass

Great comment
I have had this happen too. I am not a believer in these patches. Dealing with services manually is the only way to go.

[Jort]

used nlite to make a tweaked winxp proff with sp2

now i got this problem
while installing ati drivers "wxp-w2k-catalyst-CCC-8-121-050322a-022141C-english"

Setup can not start installing-engine.
The RPC-server is not available

[Illicit Tweakin]

I don't use XP but it sounds like you have the "server", "rpc" and or "Workstation" service disabled. One thing you can't disable is the rpc stuff, it must be on automatic(except rpc locator can be manual). rpc is a key component of windows. Enable it in the administrator tools. As well, as always, look at your log files in Event Viewer.

[MaxxxRacer]

Jort i got issues disabling things with nLite... u have to be careful i went through like 5 disks before i got one that was good...

[RAndomaN]

Does anyone know if it's possible to do diagnostic reboot with win2k like for XP? If not is there atleast a 2k patch to kill all those unneeded services? Damn I don't wanna go through and do it one by one...

By 'diagnostic reboot' you mean safemode ? if so just tap F8 on startup like everyother windows OS

[psy^]

used nlite to make a tweaked winxp proff with sp2

now i got this problem
while installing ati drivers "wxp-w2k-catalyst-CCC-8-121-050322a-022141C-english"

Run services.msc
Scroll down to the Remote Procedure Call (RPC)
Makre sure it's set to start automatically, and is running.

You won't t need to restart.

[ZMarre]

Can u show us a screen capture with Task Manager

U asked for it

Here ya go:



Although I have to admit this is with explorer killed. Explorer takes 10MB.

Just WinLite install

[teqguy]

I don't know if anyone is going to be able to beat this:



(no, I didn't cheat, I just used the FlushWindows tool I posted before )

Oh... and it doesn't stay like this, Windows bloats itself up about 30 seconds after you run it. However, you can create a batch that's hidden and runs in a continuous loop if neccessary.

[ZMarre]

I don't know if anyone is going to be able to beat this:

Ehm dude... I just did Just look the post above you

Oh... and it doesn't stay like this, Windows bloats itself up about 30 seconds after you run it. However, you can create a batch that's hidden and runs in a continuous loop if neccessary.

Lol, mine screenshot is taken after half an hour of windows-use

//EDIT/ ah ok now I see

I was looking at the 105MB on the bottom of the window. Now I noticed the usage in the section itself.

Hmmz, but that is maybe still aaah liettle chieting no? (heck, system idle proces N/A )

[teqguy]

Hmmz, but that is maybe still aaah liettle chieting no? (heck, system idle proces N/A )

System Idle Process is just above kernel level, so it doesn't need prioritization.

[Dani]

Whitch patch do I need for SuperPi8M and HexusPi etc. etc.
It comes to my bench hard drive but no 3D

I have WinXP Pro Corp with all Windows UpDates
A64 with nF4 DFI

Please, find me the fastest patch

[teqguy]

Those patches will either disable too much or not enough, because they aren't specific to your system.

So, in order to find a happy medium, you should do it manually using services.msc.

The configuration I use disables everything but 5 services, two of which are required, the other 3 being DNS Client, Windows Audio, and Windows Image Aquisition.

Here's the post I made earlier that outlines the minimum required services to not only boot Windows, but keep it functional:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...186#post835186

[KoolDrew]

There is no reason to disable services at all. Especially for performance since there are no performance gains...

[teqguy]

There is no reason to disable services at all. Especially for performance since there are no performance gains...

If you do the math, you'll find that you free almost 30MB of ram used by unneccessary services that perform arbitrary functions nobody really needs. Not to mention, it reduces boot times.

If you have between 20 and 30MB of ram going to useless services, guess what? That's 20-30MB ram that you don't have for use somewhere else.

So, just because you didn't notice an improvement in performance from it, doesn't mean it didn't help functionality. Applications appreciate having more available resources, and nothing you could possibly say can dispute that.


Anyone who says differently probably has an antivirus suite like Norton running in the background, sucking up 45MB of ram to do what could be done in 5MB.

[ZMarre]

There is no reason to disable services at all. Especially for performance since there are no performance gains...

Haha, my rig is about ten times faster now. And I don't mean innoticable SuperPI times with that, but pure handling

[KoolDrew]

If you do the math, you'll find that you free almost 30MB of ram used by unneccessary services that perform arbitrary functions nobody really needs. Not to mention, it reduces boot times.

If you have between 20 and 30MB of ram going to useless services, guess what? That's 20-30MB ram that you don't have for use somewhere else.

So, just because you didn't notice an improvement in performance from it, doesn't mean it didn't help functionality. Applications appreciate having more available resources, and nothing you could possibly say can dispute that.

Anyone who says differently probably has an antivirus suite like Norton running in the background, sucking up 45MB of ram to do what could be done in 5MB.

Ok. The only thing you may benefit from is decreased boot times, but with enough RAM which all of you probably have there is no benefit. If the memory is needed for something else the memory used by that particular service will be next to nothing or none at all.

The point is that the NT kernel doesn't give scarce resources to things that don't request it. For example an ODBC service might take up lots of CPU and RAM and I/O on a busy transaction server, but if somehow it is enabled on your home PC it will remain idle and fully paged out. If the service is non-idle then you definitely don't want to disable it.

Also you can't even reclaim the amount of memory that the non-pageable ones take as it is part of the non-paged pool, and that's reserved for the kernel anyway. Stopping the services gives you no more memory for applications and no reduction in the OS's overheads.

Anyone who says differently probably has no idea how Windows manages memory at all. If the service is not in use it won't use any recources anyway and if it is in use you definitely don't want to disable it.

Haha, my rig is about ten times faster now. And I don't mean innoticable SuperPI times with that, but pure handling

It's called the placebo effect. There are no real world performance gains and I am glad Black vipers site is down as all he has done is convince people disabling services actually helps performance.

[ZMarre]

It's called the placebo effect. There are no real world performance gains and I am glad Black vipers site is down as all he has done is convince people disabling services actually helps performance.

Errr dude what do you think I am? A ten-year old boy?

If I tell you that I have a clean windowsinstall and a clean winlite install, and the winlite is much faster then the normal one, then it is like that ok? I did it, you didn't. So no point of wanting to be the I-know-it-better-then-you guy. ('betweter' in dutch, dunno how to say it correctly in english)

Remember, none of this is about RAM-usage. It is about disabled stuff. Heck, you can even feel the difference if you simply turn off all Themes, transluency, fading menus etc.

Damn, if I want to go to desktop properties (rightmouse click on desktop) I can't even follow with my mouse. And I'm clan-gamer ET, so my aim is quite good

Everything just draws waaay faster. Period.