black viper regestry patch

[mcnbns]

I don't know about you guys, but I actually find it fun to go through all the services and disable them. Just double-clicking a reg patch takes the fun out of it!

[NiCKE^]

Yeah but we're lazy and want a one-click program to fix it for us so we can be even lazier

[isp]

go to run, type: "services.msc"

from there you can manually disable/enable services, etc, and it gives a nifty explanation too.

Yeah I guess I'll have to do that if there aren't any patches or diagnostic reboots. I was hoping for an easy solution hehehe

BTW guys,
I found one of blackviper's patches on an old drive I had around here, so I'll share it...
http://cumrusky.dreyermachine.com/bl...er_xp_user.zip

[Touche Turtle]

I remember doing something like this a few years back - going through the services and manually disabling certain ones with the help of a guide. I remember it gave me an exta ~500 points in 3dmark0? (whatever it was at the time).

This weekend I tried again, on my current system, using blackviper's guide. I was hoping to break 6k in 3dmark05 (previous best was ~5950). Guess what? After tweaking my services for around 30mins and re-running 3dm05 the increase was....... Zilch! bah!

[nordik]

I'll have to give this a go...

[V4n{}u|sH]

Nice

[ante_ante]

Yeah I guess I'll have to do that if there aren't any patches or diagnostic reboots. I was hoping for an easy solution hehehe

BTW guys,
I found one of blackviper's patches on an old drive I had around here, so I'll share it...
http://cumrusky.dreyermachine.com/bl...er_xp_user.zip

What exactly does this patch do? Disable services?????

[NiCKE^]

What exactly does this patch do? Disable services?????

Yepp, all unneeded services.

[geeman74]

heres the reg tweak i use

[KingYubbo]

So file sharing and LAN still works?

[Nosfer@tu]

Nice. Il give it a Trie

[WeStSiDePLaYa]

that patch is a POS, rendered my system basically useless, windows didnt load properely, network gone, POS!

[Nosfer@tu]

My sys works just fine, Its ed alittel with my reg file but no biggy.

And i dident se any differens on preformance

[isp]

that patch is a POS, rendered my system basically useless, windows didnt load properely, network gone, POS!

It's for benching not like a 24/7 setup...

[OV3RCLOCK3R]

any 24/7 patches out there?

same as black viper so its one click

[Gray Mole]

any 24/7 patches out there?

same as black viper so its one click

Better off disabling one by one, mate...

Check after anything you're unsure of so you know what you've done...

If you lose something you need you might not know what or how to get it back...

I'd do a fresh backup first, as well, before you do any of it, just to make sure you don't have to redo eveything, especially on a 24/7 rig...

Gray

[teqguy]

Here's the minimum required services to load Windows(XP Pro) and get online via a broadband connection with a static ip address:

Plug and Play (Automatic)
Remote Procedure Call (RPC) (Automatic, vital for operation and can't be disabled anyway)
DNS Client (Automatic)
Network Connections (Manual)

For a connection with a dynamic IP address you need to keep DHCP Services set to Automatic.

For dialup, you need all of the previously mentioned, DHCP Services, and Telephony set to Automatic.

If you're wondering where your sound went, set Windows Audio to Automatic... as it manages your sound through an additional software layer(thanks a lot Microsoft).

In keeping only the services I mentioned enabled, I've been able to reduce my ram usage to less than 50MB for Windows(this is including Explorer.exe), which definitely gives your applications some room to play around with.


One last note: You need Cryptographic services enabled to install most Microsoft products(namely DirectX and Windows Media Player). I recommend keeping it set to manual. This way, the installation will call it when it needs it, while the rest of the time it's disabled.

[G H Z]

Does anyone know if it's possible to do diagnostic reboot with win2k like for XP? If not is there atleast a 2k patch to kill all those unneeded services? Damn I don't wanna go through and do it one by one...

All you have to do is copy msconfig from XP or server 2003 to Win2000.

Here's a source if you don't have those OS's available

[teqguy]

MSconfig is absolutely the wrong way to go about disabling services.

If you disable services through MSConfig, you essentially wipe them out of existence from the rest of the operating system. This means if you screw something up, it won't be salvagable without a system restore or a third party tool.

However, if you use services.msc(which is available on Win2k and 2k3), Safe Mode can still be used to start the basic services and fix whatever went wrong.

[skuliaxe]

Is BV's site down?

It´s down, but you can use Google Chache to "view" some part of the site:

Put this in google:
"cache:www.blackviper.com" as the search string,

And you will get this:
http://216.239.59.104/search?hl=en&q...com&lr=lang_en

Not browsable though

Here´s the WwinXP SP2 cache page:
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache...iper.com&hl=en

[teqguy]

The Elder Geek has a cleaner looking list:

http://www.theeldergeek.com/services_guide.htm


However, if you want the absolute bare minimum running services, refer to the post I made above.

[GregP24]

I found from doing thse tweaks that on older systems(Athlon, Athlon XP, P4 A/B) with 512mb RAM or less, they help a great deal. However, on P4 C's and A64's with 1gb or more or RAM, they make zero difference.

[[XC] 4X4N]

I agree. I have tried benching with minimal services running, the diference is small. I also run windowblinds, which uses some resources. Unloading it and then benching also gives only minor gains.

[isp]

All you have to do is copy msconfig from XP or server 2003 to Win2000.
Here's a source if you don't have those OS's available

Thanks man, that's just the info I needed.
Now for some cold weather for benching...

[teqguy]

I wouldn't exactly say "zero" difference.

The fact of the matter is, very rarely does an average user use more than 512MB of ram. However, when you actually have an application that requires those resources, you appreciate all the ram you can get.


I've attached an application from the Microsoft Resource Pack and a batch file I made to execute it.

What it does is flushes the stack of any application you specify without crashing the application, thus freeing the memory. It works on any application you throw at it, so feel free to add more applications to the batch(I just included the services).


For those who are a bit weary of downloading suspicious files, you can get Empty.exe from the Windows 2003 Resource pack, available here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Then just make a batch file that looks like this:
Empty.exe YourProgramName
(single entry per line)