AMD Dual-Core Toledo Socket939 CPU-Z Pciture

[Rys]

So CPU-Z v1.28.4 shows the core number in the dropdown? I didn't see that with 1.28.3 when I tested.

X2 4800+ is definitely 2.4GHz with 1MiB L2, per core. You'll see next week

[perkam]

I thought A64 had QuantiSpeed not Hyper threading..which was for Intel

But other than that, can some PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLS PLEASE tell me if its confirmed that Dual Core will be coming 939 ????

Perkam

[The Coolest]

This chip is a s939 CPU.

[perkam]

This chip is a s939 CPU.

I know that !!! But will we have to change chipsets just to use it???

Perkam

[jjcom]

No, if the MB makers release a BIOS that will work with the dual cores all should be well. The dual core chips should work on any S939 board. Should.

jjcom

[Rys]

If the board can support an FX processor, it can support a dual-core CPU.

[The Coolest]

I know that !!! But will we have to change chipsets just to use it???

Perkam

Basically all s939 are supposed to support them. I'm pretty sure that with a BIOS update there won't be much boards that won't be able to run them.

Rys>> YGPM

[PCcrazy]

If the board can support an FX processor, it can support a dual-core CPU.

And i believe all 939 board support the FX though, so dual core should support all 939 board out there...

[terrace215]

So CPU-Z v1.28.4 shows the core number in the dropdown? I didn't see that with 1.28.3 when I tested.

X2 4800+ is definitely 2.4GHz with 1MiB L2, per core. You'll see next week

Cool. So does that mean the X2 4600+ is 2.4GHz 512K L2, I guess?

EDIT: Or perhaps more likely is:

X2 4800+ = 2.4 1MB
X2 4600+ = 2.2 1MB
X2 4400+ = 2.2 512K

That makes more sense. All produced using the same die for DC Opteron. The 2.2 512K part has 1/2-cache disabled.

And if one core is bad, those become San Diego 4000+, 3700+ and "Venice" 3500+.

[c627627]

The reason it does not make more sense is what, then, would a hypothetical X2 4x00+ = 2.4 512K be?

[Grayskull]

Can't O/C? Send me a PM and let me know what board you have.

ATI RS480 reference board can't OC

[terrace215]

The reason it does not make more sense is what, then, would a hypothetical X2 4x00+ = 2.4 512K be?

Why, 4600+.

There are different ways of getting to the same PR.

[Hallowed]

sxs: In your opinion does Dualcore make any difference in your normal PC use? Windows feel snappier, etc?

Thanks for the new info again man, very appreciated.

[andyhuang0308]

It's much more like u r using an INTEL HT CPU on your PC, the benefit is much better while multi-tasking. But with very low heat, much lower then you even can image while FX and P4 are out there. I know the test was done under air-cooling with a normal Semprone (754) cooler. There is a reason to use RS480 M/B testing this, but couldn't say much about it. It's Bios limitation not to allow OC on this M/B, not the chipset itself.
OK. above are all I have heard from someone.... but all facts.

[perkam]

Cool. So does that mean the X2 4600+ is 2.4GHz 512K L2, I guess?

EDIT: Or perhaps more likely is:

X2 4800+ = 2.4 1MB
X2 4600+ = 2.2 1MB
X2 4400+ = 2.2 512K

That makes more sense. All produced using the same die for DC Opteron. The 2.2 512K part has 1/2-cache disabled.

And if one core is bad, those become San Diego 4000+, 3700+ and "Venice" 3500+.

Should more along the lines of:

A64 X2 4200+ / 2.2 Ghz 512K Dual Core
A64 X2 4400+ / 2.2 Ghz 1MB Dual Core
A64 X2 4600+ / 2.4 Ghz 512K Dual Core
A64 X2 4800+ / 2.4 Ghz 1MB Dual Core
A64 X2 5000+ / 2.6 Ghz 512KB Dual Core
A64 X2 5200+ / 2.6 Ghz 1MB Dual Core

Which is consistent at all levels...

Perkam

[terrace215]

Should more along the lines of:

A64 X2 4200+ / 2.2 Ghz 512K Dual Core
A64 X2 4400+ / 2.2 Ghz 1MB Dual Core
A64 X2 4600+ / 2.4 Ghz 512K Dual Core
A64 X2 4800+ / 2.4 Ghz 1MB Dual Core
A64 X2 5000+ / 2.6 Ghz 512KB Dual Core
A64 X2 5200+ / 2.6 Ghz 1MB Dual Core

Which is consistent at all levels...

Perkam

That's not how it is. We have two data points: 4400+ = 2.2 512K, 4800+ = 2.4 1MB. The only question is the 4600+.

Also, that doesn't necessarily make sense. The contributions of +200MHz and +512K L2 may not be equal "on average" to performance.

See the 3500+ Venice(2.2/512K) / 3700+ San Diego(2.2/1MB) / 3800+ Venice (2.4/1MB) series for a real-world example.

Given that, IMO, all of the initial X2 parts will be the same (large) die as DC opteron (with the 4400+ having 1/2-cache *disabled*), it would make more sense for the 4600+ to be 2.2GHz 1MBL2.

[shadowing]

Holy moly... I just realized the memory speed of that thing.

[c627627]

Hm... we may find out tomorrow that sxs112 had an early sample whose PR rating was incorrect.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22676

[M1nDH4cK]

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22685

So it's finally settled. Huge prices though. The FX-55 still retains the leadership as far as gaming performance is conceirned.

[OC Detective]

Looks like Andy was wrong about it being a 4400+? Some new glasses perhaps?

[andyhuang0308]

Doesn't matter to me... I just a visitor.... ^_^

[Napoleonic]

Anandtech already made benches with X2 processor.......

[Rys]

They used an Opteron, which is a different socket with different memory. Nobody has officially reviewed an X2, yet.

[Woody-san]

AMD X2 Dual Core manufacturer published pricing in Tokyo:

Socket 939 (95WTDP/80A):
1) 4800 2.4GHz. 1MB + 1MB ~US$1000 (Y111K).
2) 4600 2.4GHz. 512KB + 512KB ~US$880 (Y89K).
3) 4400 2.2GHz. 1MB + 1MB ~US$630 (Y65K).
4) 4200 2.2GHz. 512KB + 512KB ~US$590 (Y60K).

Availability will be in June 2005(corrected!) Samples are available to select customers ...

[Napoleonic]

June 2006????