DFI NF4 Ultra/SLi-D BUGS and Fixes Thread

[Nanobot]

Hey guys, fake login here so i apologise for that, dont want to register...

as to people commenting on tony (bigtoe) running 3.3V and greater without using the 5V rail, thats an easy one.

Grab that nice block you use to set your ram voltages to 5V, and move it one row down, so the pins nearest the edge of the boot (should be 3 pins) have nothing covering them. Then get a spare jumper, and cover the uncovered pin as if it were on 3.3V

the pins closest to the ATX plug control the bios options, the one furthest away is the one that chooses 3.3V / 5.0V rail... so its simple, mix and match.

(you need adjusted rails to do this, 3.7V rail gets you about 3.5V in bios)

confirmation: move the block one step towards the ATX plug, as if it were 5V. use a normal jumper such as that on a HD, to cover the pins that are left as if it were 3.3V. this gives you the bios options, but on the 3.3V rail...

Who ever you are,THANK YOU !

There is a Zippy PSU bug 5v jumper bug on this motherboard .
If this indeed works to circumvent that bug,you will have made lots of people happy.

FYI:my 3.3v pot goes 3.43 max on my Zippy

ZIPPY owners report please ,I dont have anything other than TCCD so I cant try it.

[muzz]

Yes many programs of DFI are very buggy . Last chance is the DFI Support.

I think you misunderstood what he said.
The ISP problem has nothing to do with DFI, and Nvidia has a crappy IDE driver, so most folks do not install it, hence using Microsofts instead.

hth

m

[SPQQKY]

When the UT's showed up at newegg a couple of weeks ago, I thought for sure I would have a newer board, but I got an A00 with 1/25 BIOS. I did flash the BIOS to 331-3 beta and it seems to be working great. Is there a better BIOS to use with my Patriot TCCD?

[Krohling]

I'm planning to buy a DFI NF4 Ultra-D
But I don't have a PCI-Express compliant PSU, but its surely a good PSU.
I have an Enermax 470W PSU model # EG475P-VE SFMA
The DFI has a 24PIN ATX PSU connector, there are adapters 20pin to 24pin connector.

With an adapter/cable I can plug it without problems and use with the DFI. What do you think?

I really dont want to replace this PSU, as it was expensive, I had to order it from US.

[slayer899]

I'm planning to buy a DFI NF4 Ultra-D
But I don't have a PCI-Express compliant PSU, but its surely a good PSU.
I have an Enermax 470W PSU model # EG475P-VE SFMA
The DFI has a 24PIN ATX PSU connector, there are adapters 20pin to 24pin connector.

With an adapter/cable I can plug it without problems and use with the DFI. What do you think?

I really dont want to replace this PSU, as it was expensive, I had to order it from US.

it is generally not recommended to use 20->24pin adaptors but to instead get a native 24 pin PSU, else you might very well experience stability problems, as the board is not designed to run with 20 pin PSUs...but you can always try the one you have

[Krohling]

I agree with you, problems can happen, because would be out of specs...

I found this topic very interesting at anandtech.com:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y

The 20 to 24pin doesn't sound a good idea, it can cause too much load on one rail split into two. Its recommended to plug the 20 pin in the 24 pin connector, and leave the "extra" 4 pins empty.

I don't know how ATX 2.0 are built, but basically this can explain the new standard, with the separation of rails to supply graphics card via the additional 4pins through the PCI-E interface.

Most new ATX 2.0 PSUs have two 12V rails, but the 5V rail is just one, with more wattage.

Mine is 1.3 but it has also 2 12V rails, (15A and 18A), plus a separate molex connector to plug in VGAs. So I think I won't be im trouble with a DFI NF4 Ultra-D + 6800GT PCI-E.

But doing SLI (not my intention) should be compromised, and also, I won't be able to use the 5V rail to supply more vdimm (4.0v). But I don't want to go over 2.9V. And seems the limit is 3.1 with the 3.3V jumper

[DarkManX_BG]

I'm planning to buy a DFI NF4 Ultra-D
But I don't have a PCI-Express compliant PSU, but its surely a good PSU.
I have an Enermax 470W PSU model # EG475P-VE SFMA
The DFI has a 24PIN ATX PSU connector, there are adapters 20pin to 24pin connector.

With an adapter/cable I can plug it without problems and use with the DFI. What do you think?

I really dont want to replace this PSU, as it was expensive, I had to order it from US.

Using a 20pin PSU is a luck out the draw - some people (like me) get away without any stability issues, others just can't get it to work right. Order the mobo, try it and if you get some stability problems where there should be none, replace the PSU.

[GNU]

I think you misunderstood what he said.
The ISP problem has nothing to do with DFI, and Nvidia has a crappy IDE driver, so most folks do not install it, hence using Microsofts instead.

hth

m

Sorry. Yes i have misunderstood it.

Now i have downgraded my Bios to 310P. I retest my settings 2.5-3-3-6/8 @FSB290. I will see what happen.

[Klosti]

Hi,
I've the following setup:
-DFI NF4 Ultra
-Bequiet 470 W
-X800 XL
-A64 3200+

and 2x 512 MB Twinmos speed Premium. I had several crashes and tested the ram with memtest and I got always errors, in each VDimm or latency/speed and configuration (so sticks alone, sticks in yellow/orange). So I thought the ram is the problem and send it back, but my Dealer told me today that the ram is 100% fine. So what's then the Problem the mainboard, the CPU or what?

PS I'll get some new 4000 OCZ VX but I believe this won't solve my problem.

[EMC2]

--- Klosti ---

Either your memory settings or your PS...

[Badge56]

Got my DFI and installed it with a new 3200+ CBBID 0505APEW and all was well for a few hours. I then rebooted and it froze at post. Would not even get to the drives... Tried clearing CMOS holding down keys, everrything I could think of.... nothing
Then I unpluged my 3 USB devices (only had 3 of the 5 plugged) and decided to try again.... Pow she boots up fine..

Any ideas?

I plugged them all in again and will test but this ones a first for me.

[S0nic]

what BIOS are u using?

[Klosti]

--- Klosti ---

Either your memory settings or your PS...

well my PS (power supply?!) is new, atx 2.0 and should work very fine, i believe.
my memory settings, i've tested so much settings also 2T Command and so on, the ram don't even work with spd timings correctly.

[Klosti]

i'm the biggest noob ever or maybe was drunken by building the pc. I have forgot the 4 pin floppy adapter (well I have no one so I don't worry about) and I used the normal HDD apapter for the 4 pin HDD. Now I plug in the floppy adapter (don't know if it is the floppy adapter, but is the only 4 pin adapter i've found) and I changed the hdd adapter with hdd/vga adapter from the ps. And my first memtest without a error. Well I have a 6 pin pcie adapter over, for what is that? I'll test the next days and hope that was the problem. Thanks for help so far, but I've to myself

[EMC2]

Good to see you solved your power problem

FYI... the 6-pin PCIe adapter is for power hungry PCIe graphics cards... they have a mating cnx on the end of the card.

[SIOUX]

Got my DFI and installed it with a new 3200+ CBBID 0505APEW and all was well for a few hours. I then rebooted and it froze at post. Would not even get to the drives... Tried clearing CMOS holding down keys, everrything I could think of.... nothing
Then I unpluged my 3 USB devices (only had 3 of the 5 plugged) and decided to try again.... Pow she boots up fine..

Any ideas?

I plugged them all in again and will test but this ones a first for me.

Try to move the USB jumper on the motherboard to 5VSB if its not allready in that posision

[Klosti]

i was happy to early, problems continue. I had later on the night several blue screens (very different ones) and memtest got again errors. Don't know what to do. I think it's something with the memory, but not the memory itself. any ideas?

[brassen]

Ok, I've been clocking around with my CBBID 0501 and I'm up to 230x10@1,4V x 113% now and it's prime stable.
Problem is that when I'm doing Memtest I always get errors in the first pass test 6. I've tried different clocks, and it's always test 6 pass 1 that get's some errors. Rest is fine. Anyone of you got any suggestions? I'm running pretty tight timings I think (2-2-2-5), don't have the exact ones here right now though.

[Klosti]

Ok, I've been clocking around with my CBBID 0501 and I'm up to 230x10@1,4V x 113% now and it's prime stable.
Problem is that when I'm doing Memtest I always get errors in the first pass test 6. I've tried different clocks, and it's always test 6 pass 1 that get's some errors. Rest is fine. Anyone of you got any suggestions? I'm running pretty tight timings I think (2-2-2-5), don't have the exact ones here right now though.

same problem I have currently, don't know how to fix it, i've tested so may different timings no gone, yesterday I had one pass with zero errors, but today no go. my bluescreens perhaps result by my audigy 2 which uses by booting irq 7 same as the smbus, in windows it uses irq 19. Now I test my sys without the audigy 2, run better so far, but no solution :/ .

[brassen]

same problem I have currently, don't know how to fix it, i've tested so may different timings no gone, yesterday I had one pass with zero errors, but today no go. my bluescreens perhaps result by my audigy 2 which uses by booting irq 7 same as the smbus, in windows it uses irq 19. Now I test my sys without the audigy 2, run better so far, but no solution :/ .

Hm, okey. My computer has been running stable for about a week now 24/7 without any crashes or problems.

[dnottis]

Hm, okey. My computer has been running stable for about a week now 24/7 without any crashes or problems.

I found most of my problems to occur when rebooted after shutdown awhile, once it's running and leave it on 24/7 its fine for the duration. But the "next morning syndrome" was when mine had most of the issues ie USB wont work, all the sudden not prime or SuperPI stable, etc. If it was running ok and I left it running it was usually fine so that doesn't really help unless you start powering up and down I think you'll see some of the issues others are talking about.

[dnottis]

i was happy to early, problems continue. I had later on the night several blue screens (very different ones) and memtest got again errors. Don't know what to do. I think it's something with the memory, but not the memory itself. any ideas?

yea, try another board - probably got a bum board.

[dnottis]

Got my DFI and installed it with a new 3200+ CBBID 0505APEW and all was well for a few hours. I then rebooted and it froze at post. Would not even get to the drives... Tried clearing CMOS holding down keys, everrything I could think of.... nothing
Then I unpluged my 3 USB devices (only had 3 of the 5 plugged) and decided to try again.... Pow she boots up fine..

Any ideas?

I plugged them all in again and will test but this ones a first for me.

Same exact problems with mine, RMA'd it for another but I have a Neo4 on the way - too many problems with the DFI board. My usb devices would just disappear. Mine would freeze at the device id screen right after post.

[GNU]

So i have tested with 4-4-8 Bios 310P. It runs but not if you play a game which need high memory. I tested with SIlent Hunter 3. This game crashes every time. I tested my settings with memtest (15 passes without errors) and with Memory Analyzer (crashes BSOD - classpnp.exe). 3-3-8 doesn't run (memtest errors). I have no reason to remove my problem. Which program can i trust? Memtest or Memory Analyzer? I tested even with prime95, Sandra. No errors.
Have you any idea?

[Klosti]

try the microsoft memory test not as hard as the memtest, but another good test. my rig currently love me a little bit, but have no sound :/