Sapphire Shows Radeon Xpress 200 Enthusiast Board @ CeBit

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Fzero, I think "Gruper" is just the name they gave the pre production board.

[Ad Rock]

Fzero, I think "Gruper" is just the name they gave the pre production board.

I thought Gruper refered to the chipset codename that was used on these boards?

[iplo20022]

anyone hear about new radeon R520 gpu card.Someone new informatioin for this card.

[jagt]

ok thanks

Okay, got a reply from komplett. As expected:

Heisann,

Det er ikke Gruper kortet vi har liggende ute. Etter det jeg har fått av info så burde de kortene komme i slutten av mai.
--
Per Øyvind G
Salgsavd.
Komplett.no

Translated: "The board in the webshop isn't the Gruper board. After the information I've gotten, the Gruper should be out by the end of may."

[chefnr1]

Okay, got a reply from komplett. As expected:

Translated: "The board in the webshop isn't the Gruper board. After the information I've gotten, the Gruper should be out by the end of may."

ok thanks, is just to wait then

iplo20022: youre in wrong thread this is all about the ATI xpress 200 board

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Ad Rock, You may be right, I was just guessing

[Revv23]

I thought Gruper refered to the chipset codename that was used on these boards?

no the chipset is the Xpress200, no need for code now, grouper is the code for the saphhire version of that board.

[jjcom]

End of May...so not awhole lot longer. Are they're any other product being released at the time? (like a high end graphics card, new processor, etc?)

jjcom

[FireDragon]

Lets see Venice...this board and fudo (R520) in a few months...hmm YES!!!!

[SLaY3r07]

Lets see Venice...this board and fudo (R520) in a few months...hmm YES!!!!

Yeah, thats a recipe for total own4g3

[jjcom]

yeah, IF Sapphire releases the board at the same time at the R520, then that would be good for sales. A card like that, plus if the board lives up to the specs, than it would be a great buy.

jjcom

[RoyaL]

i really think that ati wants to realease the board when the new r520 is out.. with all that thing like AMR ..

[chefnr1]

Here is what they said wheen i contact them.
Q
Hi! i'm very interested of that new motherboard Radeon Xpress 200 Enthusiast Board "gruper" s939 that been shown at CeBit sapphire are going to build, and i wonder when it will be finnish and ready for market, and will it be available in europe aswell..
best regards..
Tommy..
A
Hi Tommy,

ETA is May 2005; please contact your local retailer for more information or preorder.

Best regards,
Sapphire tech

And i phoned the company that import sapphirecard, Ingram Micro and they wont say a word about the new R520.Its just for resellers they said yhey could'nt answer privat person that

[cadaveca]

R520=AMR. MAybe..just..maybe?

[Nanobot]

And i phoned the company that import sapphirecard, Ingram Micro and they wont say a word about the new R520.Its just for resellers they said they could'nt answer privat person that

Thanks for the info chefnr1

These distributors can be a bunch of jacka** .What's it to them giving an ETA on the cards;it's not like you asked the cost price .

[Ad Rock]

Thanks for the info chefnr1

These distributors can be a bunch of jacka** .What's it to them giving an ETA on the cards;it's not like you asked the cost price .

You will never get a definite answer from them in a situation like that. They dont know who you are and if they will be qouted as saying "The card will be out by May 5th". Then you take that date and post it up here and when its not out by then we are start crapping on saphire saying they are a bad company that can not realease a product on time.

Vague answers are a manufactures best friend for unrealeased items .

[chefnr1]

You will never get a definite answer from them in a situation like that. They dont know who you are and if they will be qouted as saying "The card will be out by May 5th". Then you take that date and post it up here and when its not out by then we are start crapping on saphire saying they are a bad company that can not realease a product on time.

Vague answers are a manufactures best friend for unrealeased items .

no one said anything about may 5th they said to me in May, it could be May1th and oterwise May 30, they did'nt know exactley when it's release date was.
and they get that i was a private person otherwise i had to log on in an area that resellers only can do

[FireDragon]

This is DEFFINITLY going to be my Next mobo with a Fudo and a Venice...UMM FAST!!! MAN THAT WILL SCREAM...but yeah relesing the Fudo and this at the same time will a sweat deal (well not really a deal but you know what i mean...) so that is my next system on water of course...

[BLHealthy4life]

This mobo will be definitely be sweet.

Let's see....sell the DFI Ultra-D, X850XT PE, FX55 and re-up with a Sapphire Xpress 200, R520, and FX57 and I'll be ready to rock.

[Ad Rock]

no one said anything about may 5th they said to me in May, it could be May1th and oterwise May 30, they did'nt know exactley when it's release date was.
and they get that i was a private person otherwise i had to log on in an area that resellers only can do

Hrmm there must be a language barier stopping you from understanding what I meant by that. I was using the qoute of "may 5th" as an example that they will never tell you a specific release date since they do not want to be held responsible to uphold that specific date.

[chefnr1]

i knew what you meant! i was just meanig it could be anytime in May and it could be as far as june too.

[revenant]

wow... I was planning out a new DFI SLI rig, but this changes things a bit... I think I might hold my wad and wait for this board and the Fudo to come out... not only are the stats amazing, but it's so purrrrdy too.

EDIT :: WHOA!! http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=22203

this is crazy!! so you can fill up all your PCI-E slots with ATI (multi VPU compat) video cards if you want. lol!!

"While NVIDIA SLI splits the screen into two parts and one GPU renders each half, ATI's solution breaks the screen into little squares. Remember the chessboard effect you had when pipelines were bad with the softmod?
That's how it is going to work, just on a bigger scale, called "Super Tiling". Any GPU from R300 and up supports Super Tiling in hardware and they can be mixed when in SLI mode.
However, ATI most probably will not enable SLI for GPUs other than the R4xx and R520 series.

ATI's SLI is also not limited to two video cards. There will be one master card which presents the rendered data to the screen and coordinates the slaves which transfer their rendered data into the master's framebuffer. A physical PCB to link the video cards is not required, everything is done via PCI-Express bus."

found here - http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=2584

That's pretty smart though... they work it so it behaves like a computer "cluster".

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Here's a comparison I found of the ATi Radeon Xpress 200 chipset versus the Nforce3, Nforce4 Ultra and the Via K8T800 Pro chipsets. Mind You this is before the Sapphire Grouper (or in non-english Gruper) was even mentioned of course.

http://www.behardware.com/articles/530/page1.html

[pro7070]

Subscribing to thread

[mcnbns]

I still don't know how much better you can get than the DFI board, though. Still, I'll probably end up waiting for this board before I upgrade. (Venice can only get better in the meantime, right? )