HS off Winchester :)

**TEDY** · 03-26-2005, 11:49 AM

friend of mine took hs off winnie 3000+ and he's getting better ocing and lower temperatures with less vcore voltage needed

**IvanAndreevich** · 03-26-2005, 11:51 AM

There a thread in the Best of AMD Stickiest. How much of an improvement did you get?

**Cpt Twitchy** · 03-26-2005, 02:33 PM

I knew the core was smaller but that looks half as small or more then a clawhammer.

Can't wait to see the results

What precautions do you take when mounting cooling to prevent crushing/cracking the core?

**NST6563** · 03-26-2005, 02:44 PM

I saw another thread somewhere about a guy that removed the HS and lapped the bottom side of it and replaced the original thermal goo with AS5 and had good results.

**alexio** · 03-26-2005, 03:11 PM

Why aren't AMD and Intel using a copper hsf?, on a Prescott it would make a hell of a difference if you ask me.

I know copper is harder to machine but on the higher models (3.4ghz and up) they should use a copper hsf and a different cooler than on the lower models.

Atleast they should give the P4 EE SOMEthing extra.

Do you guys agree with me?

**$a1Ty** · 03-26-2005, 03:14 PM

i dont understand why they use an ihs, isnt it meant to improve heat dissipation cos that just doesnt make sense at it just increases thermal transfers, i spose its just for protection of the cores is that right?

**Jamo** · 03-26-2005, 03:15 PM

isnt the fx55 hsf copper bottomed? i'm sure i've seen a stock amd heatsink with a copper bottom

**Cpt Twitchy** · 03-26-2005, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Jamo

isnt the fx55 hsf copper bottomed? i'm sure i've seen a stock amd heatsink with a copper bottom

If I remember correctly the FX55 HSF's are copper bottomed with two heatpipes.

**NST6563** · 03-26-2005, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by alexio

Why aren't AMD and Intel using a copper hsf?, on a Prescott it would make a hell of a difference if you ask me.

I know copper is harder to machine but on the higher models (3.4ghz and up) they should use a copper hsf and a different cooler than on the lower models.

Atleast they should give the P4 EE SOMEthing extra.

Do you guys agree with me?

do you mean copper heatspreader, or copper heatsink? if it's heatspreader..then I know the P4 uses them for sure (I Lapped mine and it dropped the temps about 2c on both idle and load). The intel heatsink/fan assemblies are machined aluminum with copper slugs in the center. seems to be a popular design.

**LowRun** · 03-26-2005, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Cpt Twitchy

If I remember correctly the FX55 HSF's are copper bottomed with two heatpipes.

They're talking 'bout the ihs not the hsf

**IvanAndreevich** · 03-26-2005, 03:40 PM

The IHS is copper. Try lapping it..

**Cpt Twitchy** · 03-26-2005, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by LowRun

They're talking 'bout the ihs not the hsf

Afaik they are also talking about the HSF and not only the IHS.

Why aren't AMD and Intel using a copper hsf?, on a Prescott it would make a hell of a difference if you ask me.

isnt the fx55 hsf copper bottomed? i'm sure i've seen a stock amd heatsink with a copper bottom

**STEvil** · 03-26-2005, 04:35 PM

IHS's are copper, no way they would be as heavy as they are if they were aluminum.

They could do a lot better job making them and putting them on, though.

**dippyskoodlez** · 03-26-2005, 04:44 PM

Eitehr way, AMD and Intell *DO* use copper heatsinks-- just the lower models have aluminum.

The heatspreaders are copper too.. even my wilamette IHS is.

**Bloody_Sorcerer** · 03-26-2005, 04:45 PM

the IHSes are copper? then why do they look aluminum?

**dippyskoodlez** · 03-26-2005, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Bloody_Sorcerer

the IHSes are copper? then why do they look aluminum?

Nickel plated

Exactly how much of an improvement did he get from doing this?

I know its gonna be some, just interested in how much.. Could it be why winnies dont improve much using extremer cooling?

**LowRun** · 03-26-2005, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Cpt Twitchy

Afaik they are also talking about the HSF and not only the IHS.

My bad then

**EMC2** · 03-26-2005, 05:20 PM

@Tedy - Very nice choice of tool for the job

Prevents accidental damage to the components around the core

**IvanAndreevich** · 03-26-2005, 05:27 PM

In the corner is that a scratch near the "N"?

**ArcTan** · 03-26-2005, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by Bloody_Sorcerer

the IHSes are copper? then why do they look aluminum?

it is nickel plated copper

**coop** · 03-26-2005, 07:50 PM

"friend of mine took hs off winnie 3000+ and he's getting better ocing and lower temperatures with less vcore voltage needed" ***he has the same cpu as you

**Gorod** · 03-26-2005, 07:57 PM

IHS is copper

Just take a look

**sabrewolf732** · 03-26-2005, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by dippyskoodlez

Nickel plated

Exactly how much of an improvement did he get from doing this?

I know its gonna be some, just interested in how much.. Could it be why winnies dont improve much using extremer cooling?

I doubt it, nc's do ok with extreme cooling and the ihs. I see no reason as to why the IHS would have anything to do with winnies being unstable at -0 temps. Maybe it is some weird fluke of nature though

**Circaflex** · 03-26-2005, 08:22 PM

ballsy man ballsy, how much of a total gain did he receive?

**Magnj** · 03-26-2005, 08:23 PM

So would it be worth the risk to take the HS off , Lapp it and Re install it with AS5?

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