The NEW ABIT NF7-S

**Ace-a-Rue** · 12-14-2002, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by MrIcee
The 8RDA+ is a good board RacerX. I'd still be playing with it if I hadn't had a failed VMem mod attempt. Purely my fault indeed.

Randi

Please Randi, more information on went wrong because some of us are attempting to do the Vmem mod.....Thanks!

**muzz** · 12-14-2002, 09:33 PM

Yes sir reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Randi. that info would be much appreciated bro.

**muzz** · 12-15-2002, 11:57 AM

A PM would be fine bro.

**Bushboy** · 12-15-2002, 12:02 PM

Hmm if Mr Icee failed to do it, then I don't think it'll be very pretty if I give it a go

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**Praetereo** · 12-15-2002, 05:01 PM

RacerX, I apologize for taking so long to get the board information you requested. I was able to see my friend Aceman Friday night, and his board is labeled Tean TN2. We were able to run 3DMark on WinXP(SP1) at the following settings: XP2200 @ 1908MHz (9x212) @ 1.8v (that is what his board registered when set to 1.85v). Cooled w/SLK800 and 92mm Vantec Tornado. Two sticks of 512MB XMS3500 (1GB) at 212 MHz FSB Cas2-4-2-2 at 2.68v (2.7v setting). We used a bone-stock Sapphire Radeon at 361/335 with the AGP bus at 66MHz w/8x enabled. The RAM would run at 212MHz @ Cas2-3-2-2, but it would actually perform worse. I forgot to check the command rate with software in Windows, since it does not show it in the BIOS. I assume it to be 2T. Will confirm that soon. Every single onboard device was enabled (SATA, Sound, etc...) and interestingly enough, if we turned the extra stuff off, the system would consistently hang whenever trying to reboot, so we just left it all on

This is the 3DMark Score.
Now, here is something interesting:
I have a major problem, and would appreciate any suggestions anyone might have. I tried putting my XP2700 in his board, and it absolutely would not be stable at any high FSB. You could even lower the multiplier and raise the FSB to something tame like 190 MHz, and it would not even post. If we were able to get it to post, it would crash a few seconds later. We could immediately put his XP2200 back in and it would be rock stable again. Is it possible that the board is not correctly unlocking the chip, so that when we drop the multipier to raise the FSB, it is causing it to not post? The chip will do 13x193 at max timings in my AT7-MAX. If anyone has any suggestions at all, please let me know.

**xgman** · 12-15-2002, 05:34 PM

Same prob on the Epox 8rda+ for me.

**RacerX** · 12-15-2002, 05:56 PM

Praetereo, no problems on the late reply. Tell your friend he is one lucky fella. Its seems he as of now as the only NF7-S that seems to be able to run over 188fsb.

I will RMA this one and I see where I purchased it from than just received another batch, though I'm positive they will not have the 4 holes. Maybe I will get lucky like your friend.

Your friends XP2200 is that a Tbred or a Palomino? All of the sudden your getting crashes and no boots with the XP2700 Tbred. I'd §§§§ my pants if thats been the issue all the long. I knew I should of tried my XP1600 Agoia Y. Dam.

Anyone else running a Palomino on a NF7-S that can confirm this?

**Praetereo** · 12-15-2002, 06:18 PM

His XP2200 is the older core. I will work on my chip tonight so that I will have lower multipliers, and will try again when I see Aceman on Wednesday. Heh, about him having a lucky board - I know! It scares the heck out of me that when I order my NF7-S, it might not perform as well as his

**Fewture** · 12-16-2002, 02:31 AM

Just for info:

2200+ = Tbred A
2700+ = Tbred B

So looks like problems with a Tbred B to me...for now..

**RacerX** · 12-16-2002, 04:46 AM

Originally posted by Fewture
Just for info:

2200+ = Tbred A
2700+ = Tbred B

So looks like problems with a Tbred B to me...for now..

Actually XP2200 early cores were Palominos but know all are Tbreds if I'm not mistaken.

Will try my theory once I get my bios chip replacement.

**mdzcpa** · 12-16-2002, 05:05 AM

I beleive all XP 2200s are Tbred cores

**Emericana** · 12-16-2002, 09:37 AM

that is not true i have seen a few people at overclockers forums w/ 2200+ Palominos they use the AROIA core... they were released a week or so before the tbreds came out and because AMD didnt make too many of them they sold out very fast

**MrIcee** · 12-16-2002, 09:54 AM

Ace

Pin 22 on the Winbond W3330 needs to be de-soldered or cut, then a VR set to max soldered between the board trace and Pin 22. I measured 3.22v at the board where the leg was soldered BTW, after the pin was desoldered and lifted away. What happened to me is that the leg broke off flush with the voltage regulator when I gently lifted it up to solder to it. I did not fry the board or the like...it was purely my own error in not being gentle enough.

It is basically the same mod as the ABIT BD7...except this newer version of the Winbond voltage regulator has more Pins than the previous. If anyone pulls this off successfully let me know...I started writing a guide on it....but at the moment am attempting an RMA

Randi

**RacerX** · 12-16-2002, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by Emericana
that is not true i have seen a few people at overclockers forums w/ 2200+ Palominos they use the AROIA core... they were released a week or so before the tbreds came out and because AMD didnt make too many of them they sold out very fast

Yup, thats what I thought also. Thanks for clearing that up. I would die if the NF7-S what having issues with the Tbreds.

We need to find someone else that has a Palomino with this board and test it over 188fsb.

**RacerX** · 12-16-2002, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by MrIcee
Ace

Pin 22 on the Winbond W3330 needs to be de-soldered or cut, then a VR set to max soldered between the board trace and Pin 22. I measured 3.22v at the board where the leg was soldered BTW, after the pin was desoldered and lifted away. What happened to me is that the leg broke off flush with the voltage regulator when I gently lifted it up to solder to it. I did not fry the board or the like...it was purely my own error in not being gentle enough.

It is basically the same mod as the ABIT BD7...except this newer version of the Winbond voltage regulator has more Pins than the previous. If anyone pulls this off successfully let me know...I started writing a guide on it....but at the moment am attempting an RMA

Randi

Thats one nasty vdimm mod Randi. I will attempt it if I like my 8RDA+ enough to keep.

**antipop** · 12-16-2002, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by RacerX
Yup, thats what I thought also. Thanks for clearing that up. I would die if the NF7-S what having issues with the Tbreds.

We need to find someone else that has a Palomino with this board and test it over 188fsb.

I have a palomino so send me the board and i'll try it

**RacerX** · 12-16-2002, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by antipop
I have a palomino so send me the board and i'll try it

I have one too!

But the bios chip is toast so not really booting up at the moment. Should be seeing a replacement chip in a few days.

**Frankie** · 12-16-2002, 12:13 PM

Great! gonna buy one immediately when available

**Ace-a-Rue** · 12-16-2002, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by MrIcee
Ace

Randi

I PM you for further dialogue. Thanks for the answer Randi!

**twiggy** · 12-16-2002, 04:08 PM

Theres a shipment of NS7's comin in to newegg tomorrow. Does any1 know if they will have the holes or not?

**MrIcee** · 12-16-2002, 04:11 PM

Twiggy

There is some uncertainty on that one....as the eta for 2nd rev boards was the end of the month. I also saw NewEggs eta ealier today. Let me contact my ABIT guy and get back to you on this

Randi

**Hallowed** · 12-16-2002, 04:12 PM

Those should be it. I'm grabbing one, and if there is anything wrong with them, I'll let you know.

**ABIT Marketing** · 12-16-2002, 04:32 PM

Nope those will not have the 4 holes still

Sorry to disappoint ya'll again

**Hallowed** · 12-16-2002, 04:34 PM

Oh man...

Epox time.

**MrIcee** · 12-16-2002, 04:36 PM

Thank you Abit Marketing for clarifying this...I was in the middle of writing you when I rechecked the thread...thanks my man

Randi

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