TCCD Discontinued - Whatever shall we do?

[stealthbomber]

Sony is using XDR in the PS3 - they've been using RAMBUS since the PS2, so that relationship has been around. Last update MS was using a shared (G?)DDR3 bucket for their memory. I'll post some linkage if requested.

I'd be surprised if AMD's DDR2 solution wasn't very good, if not excellent - look at the bandwidth numbers they're currently producing on DDR1. Also look at the performance between single channel and dual channel, in most cases S754 doesn't fall far behind S939 - point is, bandwidth isn't everything. I think AMD made the right move here, DDR2 production is only truly ramping up just now, and they publicly stated they didn't believe they'd see gains until DDR2-667, which makes sense from both a cost and latency perspective. Remember, DDR2 has inherently higher latencies than DDR1.

As for XDR on ATI/NVIDIA, don't be too hasty on that - a lot of people still have a sour taste from RAMBUS' litigious dealings, and that includes corporate types. GDDR4 is expected to scale to 1.4GHz/2.8GHzDDR, so there's no immediate need for XDR in the graphics arena.

Yeah, AMD's on-die mem controller does pack a good punch Mhz for Mhz, but you have to wonder just how "difficult" it would be for Intel to persuade a major player like Samsung to scale down (or even cease) production of DDR2 chips in favour of greater XDR production by 2006, knowing that they have already finished developing a working DDR2 Intel platform, the next step of the performance war with AMD should already be underway.

I always seem to expect Intel to play dirty (nothing new there), I just hope AMD's dual core chips based on DDR2 is enough to outclass whatever Intel and their billion dollar R&D labs has to offer.

[Entity_Razer]

I think AMD will wip up something heavy don't you worry.

what I do like about AMD is that they develop lots of new things compared to Intel. its like ATI vs Nvidia, Nvidia claims to have a new technology called SLI while it's relativly old technology already.

thats the way I feel about AMD vs Intel.

AMD has a lot to lose, more then Intel so I'm sure they'll bring out something amazing

[jjcom]

yeah, by the time AMD moves to DDR2, 3-2-2 latencies should be more standard.

jjcom

[Revv23]

is there even a chance of 2-2-2 on DDR2 ever?

[jjcom]

I remember Saaya saying he thought that CAS 3 and higher worked on DDR2. I also thought the same thing...so sadly it appears that CAS2 will not be seen

jjcom