6600GT at 28000 in 3dmark2001

[zakelwe]

Although I doubt this will last very long I got 28000 out of my poor old Gainward 6600GT GLH.

I manged to accidentally put 1.85v through the core ( standard 1.45v ) ..twice and 3.9v through the 2v GDDR3 memory when I confused between the ISL 6534 and 6549, but still it came up trumps.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8416228

I've never in my life had to change the gpu MHz and gpu core voltage so much on a chip within a run to stop it getting too hot .. stupid 0.11 micron process without low k, this does not bode well for overclocking the X800XL unless cooled with water or phase.

Although this will get zapped pretty quick by people not using only air and using SLi at least I was there first.

How close was I to the limit ? It took me a week and here's a picture of dragothic on an average run. That pixel is upsetting all my green triangles

http://www.aocb77.dsl.pipex.com/6600run.jpg



Regards

Andy

[felinusz]

A very nice result, congratulations man!

I've never in my life had to change the gpu MHz and gpu core voltage so much on a chip within a run to stop it getting too hot .. stupid 0.11 micron process without low k, this does not bode well for overclocking the X800XL unless cooled with water or phase.

What kind of CPU heatsink were you using on the video card? Temperatures?

and 3.9v through the 2v GDDR3 memory when I confused between the ISL 6534 and 6549, but still it came up trumps.

That card is a real trooper

[Geforce4ti4200]

congras on 28k you beat my 640x480x16 score by 156 marks! you got me in car and lobby and tied my drag high, my cpu is more of a bottleneck than I thought as for those green triangles, whoa ive never seen such bad artifacts! I often run my card with a little artifacting on the ram, if it artifacts too much my performance suffers a few fps. My core tends not to artifact, it stutters if pushed too high. You said "spurrious white dot" is that gpu artifacts and why is it outside the dragothic test being run? Is that with both your cpu and gpu on air? even more amazing then! You could write in your description: single gpu, all on air!

[zakelwe]

A very nice result, congratulations man!



What kind of CPU heatsink were you using on the video card? Temperatures?

Globalwin Cak2 copper cpu heatsink. 22C at idle but jumps to up to 80C during bench where normally I would expect 55-65C if it was a 600 for example.

Regards

Andy

[zakelwe]

congras on 28k you beat my 640x480x16 score by 156 marks! you got me in car and lobby and tied my drag high, my cpu is more of a bottleneck than I thought as for those green triangles, whoa ive never seen such bad artifacts! I often run my card with a little artifacting on the ram, if it artifacts too much my performance suffers a few fps. My core tends not to artifact, it stutters if pushed too high. You said "spurrious white dot" is that gpu artifacts and why is it outside the dragothic test being run? Is that with both your cpu and gpu on air? even more amazing then! You could write in your description: single gpu, all on air!

I think the spurious white dot is a piece of dust on the screen, I pointed it out as a joke ( I'm such a comedian ! , er.. cough). The green is a gpu artifact and only appears in drag high and does not affect scores. I have had worse artifacting on a 6800 with 12x1 forced to 16x1 when the 4th pixel pipeline was crappy, I could not even see what the fps was. In 3dmark05 all it was was blocks until the individual benches finished. I worried about it at the start but it is still going strong.

I'm now drinking a pint of wine in celebration !

Regards

Andy

[blinky]

I'm now drinking a pint of wine in celebration !

thats the true benching spirit

congrats on 28k dood, i think 30k is the next stop for this card

[gigi77]

Nice Andy!

Luigi

[perry_78]

Looks good Andy! In DK we have holidays next week, my DFI has already shipped and my water cooling is shipping today! (ok, Asetek set, as I don't want to put another DD setup together).

You have the AGP version, we'll see how my PCIE version fares. Do you measure your voltage with a multimeter?


Just realised you're using an FX-55. Looks like it'll trounce my Winchester 3000+ pretty badly. I'm aiming for 25K without a V-mod. Then the soldering iron and variable resistor come into play

[DrJay]

Congrats on another # 1 Andy!!

Seems like we might eventually have a race to 30k in this class.
So the ORB makes no distinction between one card and two in sli? If that is the case, gotta say that really bothers me.

[zakelwe]

Thanks for the thanks guys. I think Luigi will be soon past me as I am maxed out and now 28k has been achieved I have sort of lost interest for the moment, I have a bad cold as well from being outside.

Yes David I use a multimeter on the caps, see the thread in the volt mods section for likely caps ( though you have PCIe it might be similar ).

I know what you mean in one sense Jay about having both SLi and single in one class, I think that is the most likely route to 30k though. I cannot imagine getting 2k more points on my card so 28k will do for now. Obviously I'll bench it again in months to come, but I have a GF3 ti500 on order now as I fancy something old.

Regards

Andy

[perry_78]

Thanks for the thanks guys. I think Luigi will be soon past me as I am maxed out and now 28k has been achieved I have sort of lost interest for the moment, I have a bad cold as well from being outside.

Yes David I use a multimeter on the caps, see the thread in the volt mods section for likely caps ( though you have PCIe it might be similar ).

I know what you mean in one sense Jay about having both SLi and single in one class, I think that is the most likely route to 30k though. I cannot imagine getting 2k more points on my card so 28k will do for now. Obviously I'll bench it again in months to come, but I have a GF3 ti500 on order now as I fancy something old.

Regards

Andy

I have a GF3Ti200 temporarily in my P4 system One hell of a card, 6K in 01
with modest oc

30K sounds impossible. You would seriously need to add more power and some serious cooling. Can anyone really be bothered?

How about 03 / 05 results? There I have a chance, in 01 your CPU will trounce mine without any issues

[reject]

I have a bad cold as well from being outside.

wat a slugger
pity the gpus on them cards dont oc more, no 5900xt syle love
are you gonna get some better cooling for the card after you finished with gf3ti?

[Snowman89]

thats sooo nice score man!
hoping to get 25k because im on a lousy 3200+ winnie

[Jasonhk]

Me too, I'm running my poor 3200+ @ 260 * 10 With BH5 and my Chaintech 6600gt @ 590/1250 and i'm getting 24073 3dmark 01 marks, on windows xp

[perry_78]

Me too, I'm running my poor 3200+ @ 260 * 10 With BH5 and my Chaintech 6600gt @ 590/1250 and i'm getting 24073 3dmark 01 marks, on windows xp

Well, Andy's CPU is superior to ours. I'm hoping in for 25K before the vmod.

[Jasonhk]

How much better will Windows 2000 do? And what system tweaks can i do for a better score.

[maverick89]

very nice score zakelwe!!!

[pik-ard v1.1]

given the fact that dual 6800u's got over 400fps in nature... should 2x6600gt's do better then just one?

and, i still believe, get a 650/1300 clocking 6600gt, and a 3.1-3.2ghz FX processor... and 30k is in the bag.

[Snowman89]

given the fact that dual 6800u's got over 400fps in nature... should 2x6600gt's do better then just one?

and, i still believe, get a 650/1300 clocking 6600gt, and a 3.1-3.2ghz FX processor... and 30k is in the bag.

exactly but the thing is that none of the top orbs with cascades has a 6600gt because the only have the best and not the middle class cards

[pik-ard v1.1]

doesnt take a cascade to get a FX to 3.1-3.2ghz benchable... a vapochill(or homemade single stage phase change) will do the job just fine.

[Brandybuck]

very nice skor....

[blinky]

doesnt take a cascade to get a FX to 3.1-3.2ghz benchable... a vapochill(or homemade single stage phase change) will do the job just fine.

it does take $1000 for that fx tho


heres mah future SLI 6600gt's. HEHehehehhEHEHEHE
.... now i just gotta get the money to pay for em and a nf4 system to run em , LOL

[zakelwe]

Nice cards blinky, how soon will you be able to get the money together to get up and running ? If nature goes from 155 to 300 say for SLi then that is 3000 extra points in the bad straight away, and drag low probably will go up a lot as well, so an extra 500-1000 points. Luigi has an SLi set up, I am not sure why he has not attempted 3dmark2001 yuet as this would likely give him 31-32k if the above is rights and not bad assumptions.

For 3dmark03 I would imagine 10k-10.5k would be about right for that card, I might test it this weekend. I got 9600 with my old MSI at 580/1080 I seem to remember.

In regards to the cost involved it does seem to be very high now even for mid range cards in 2001, probably because you need to have a 1MB cache AMD64 as a base for lobby and car. As Dr Jay pointed out the other day if you can get a second hand 754 1MB AMD and a cheap AMD64 754 motherboard then you only need one really good stick of bh5 or Twinmoss or VX and this might be better than a 512KB AMD64 in a 939 board with mediocre pairing of memory .. and cost about the same.

The alternative is older cards like the GF3. The older or less powerful the card is the more the score depends on the card clocks and takes away from the power of the cpu, ie 2001 becomes card limited.

Regards

Andy

[reject]

on old cards you phase the gpu not cpu, and get the same score as phasing both, thats nice
and that 1mb a64 thing sucks. 512kb just cant compare. the cache os worth as much as 2k, or 1k clock for clock
a 3ghz 512k compares to a 2.6-2.7ghz 1mb

[zakelwe]

on old cards you phase the gpu not cpu, and get the same score as phasing both, thats nice
and that 1mb a64 thing sucks. 512kb just cant compare. the cache os worth as much as 2k, or 1k clock for clock
a 3ghz 512k compares to a 2.6-2.7ghz 1mb

This cache is what is worrying me about AMD when they go dual core. Firstly the two cores will not be as fast as current FX-55, secondly 3dmark will not benefit from the second core, thirdly they are likely to have 2x512KB cache i would have thought, 512Kb per chip. So you end up with in effect a 512KB 2.4GHz chip which sounds like what we have nowadays for newcastle and Winchester .. doh.

Regards

Andy