looks like also BH-5 will have a revival!!!

[EnJoY]

Yea sig it and say it's my quote!

[Bluebeard]

*UPDATE*

BH-5 will come back in old technologie as usual in 0,175um
CH-5 are, as everybody knows, in new technologie 0,13um
DH-5 will hopefully be here soon as well in 0,11um

BH-5 will be used for DDR450 Speed Premium so there should be no "week-hunting"

[CTKP]

so will the new speed premium's have bh-5 chips from old stock, or will they be from a new production?

[Bluebeard]

as long as there was no Winbond production for long, long time, these will be new produced ones

DDR400 Speed Premium to come witn CH-5
DDR450 Speed Premium (not released yet) to come in BH-5

[Garrett]

...My OCZ BH-5 does 250MHz 2-2-2 at only 3.1vdimm. 3.35, and I got 270 . Also, I'm under impression that you are using 2x256 sticks to achieve 270MHz... .

Why don't you kick 3.6v through it then? Might get you 290
Since we're busy why don't you make that 3.8v... you could actually get 300

[Nazaar]

omg thats amazing !! When will they hit the market ?

[Bluebeard]

soon, i guess

first samples to arrive next week... after testing the party can start

[El Snorro]

What are you talking about, TwinMOS is foolish.

Not all BH-5 is good BH-5. In fact, there is still a lot of BH-5 chips out there on the market. However, most of the "overclocking" weeks have already been bought up, and the remaining chips are the kind that people get and whine "buhuhuhoo my BH-5 doesn't go over 220MHz halp meh!", and then wonder why. Of course it's a combination of things - sh1tty PCB, bad week, lack of any binning out of bad chips... cheap materials. And TwinMOS fits into all of those categories AFAIK. Don't know about now, but the old TwinMOS BH-5 was nothing to write home about.

Nothing to write homa about???
Why not?
My 2x512 twinmos bh5 (week 13) does 275mhz 2t and 255 mhz 1t (benchable) @3,6v which in still in the safe zone according to winbond.
But I have sold this bh5 to buy some OCZ VX (higher speeds @1T)

Will this new bh5 chips do any better than 'old' bh5??
And will the high speeds= 2T problem will be solved??
Because that will be some points for me to make my decision to wait for this SP or to buy some OCZ VX...

[BeSaiD]

DH-5 in Speed Premium DDR500??

[Bluebeard]

released as DDR450 2,5-3-3-8 i´m sure these modules will rock for standard users as well as for OC

TwinMOS will never special select like OCZ, G.Skill or others out there - but is it really worth it? Look at the UTTs...

TCCD - fast timings/ high fsb with low voltage
CH-5 - love to get V
BH-5 - fast timings with low voltage / high fsb has to be testes -> i think there still can be differences even the process and production is the same - we have to see

both CH-5 and BH-5 will be much cheaper than TCCD

[Garrett]

DH-5 in Speed Premium DDR500??

I'm very curious

[enzoR]

enzor : mine hit 250 with 3.3...only if i had 3.4-3.5

yea i'm saying aslong as the BH5 isnt defective all of it will hit 250 with a maximun voltage required of 3.5. some will do so much better with 3.5

[enzoR]

Trust me, you don't want me to move to personal insults. Cause then you'll be wearing three boots, two on your feet and one in your ass.

Clearly, that's not the case, as BH-6 is 166nm gate length (or as you like to call it, "process") and BH-5 is 150nm. BH-4 was supposed to be 130nm.

sorry but that info is wrong. The XH means die chip, 5/6/7.5 is speed grade. all CH come from same die. same with BH and AH. all the same manufacturing process. these dies get speed binned and they get their ns rateings handed to them. call winbond up for yourself, or send them an email.

[tictac]

both CH-5 and BH-5 will be much cheaper than TCCD

Cool....

[esdee]

*UPDATE*
DH-5 will hopefully be here soon as well in 0,11um

BH-5 will be used for DDR450 Speed Premium so there should be no "week-hunting"

ok ... DH-5 soon ... BH-5 on speed-premium
CH-5 and UTT currently on them, i can see no reason why not buying speed premioun !!!

i just CAN"T Wait!

[CrimeDog]

DDR400 Speed Premium to come witn CH-5
DDR450 Speed Premium (not released yet) to come in BH-5

So is that 100% winbond chips or a mixed bag like the speed premium with the UTT chips?
Pretty crazy Winbond getting back into the ddr market, it's gotta be a temperary thing or the ddr2 market totally bombed.

edit: i just got what you meant by week hunting, d'oh

[Bluebeard]

your comment makes no sense to me.... sry

http://www.digitimes.com/bits_chips/a20050125A4015.html

[gundamit]

http://www.digitimes.com/bits_chips/a20050125A4015.html

Holy ... ! $8,000,000,000 loan? Well I'll try to do my part helping them pay back their loan, but I can only kick in $200 tops for a gig of the new/old DDR they'll be producing. Anyone else want to cover the rest?

[Nazaar]

whats this DH-5 ? Better then utt/bh-5 ??

[DaWaN]

*UPDATE*

BH-5 will come back in old technologie as usual in 0,175um
CH-5 are, as everybody knows, in new technologie 0,13um
DH-5 will hopefully be here soon as well in 0,11um

BH-5 will be used for DDR450 Speed Premium so there should be no "week-hunting"

Will there be also some 4ns stuff? Bh-4 or DH-4, that would be great
I'm also very interrested in DH-5, should it be better than BH-5?

[esdee]

your comment makes no sense to me.... sry

http://www.digitimes.com/bits_chips/a20050125A4015.html

holly

[bobmanfoo]

.....
both CH-5 and BH-5 will be much cheaper than TCCD

k, im a bit confused now, ch-5= utt -->TM ddr400 speed premium? how much will be bh-5 sticks be compared to the TMSP400? 160$ for a gig of the tmsp400 here in the states

[seldomsean]

holly

Well i say holy :banana4:

[Entity_Razer]

BH 5 comming back? .......




Although never owning them I've heard soooo much about them.

Can't wait to pump (yet again) some money in some sticks to test that RAM

BTW on which sticks will these be?

Speed premium I'm guessing?

BTW can you say a directional price?

for 512 MB,.... 80$,70$? :p

Thanks for the good news alonso!!!!

[WiCKeD]

I'm also very interrested in DH-5, should it be better than BH-5?

DH-6 is the crap on the bottom of my Seagate SCSI drive. No joke.

Oh and...

http://www.digitimes.com/bits_chips/a20050125A4015.html

HOLY !!!