*****Official***** DFI NF4 ultra-D first look

[OPPAINTER]

Guys I have an X850 here and it fits with NO mods. Check the pics.

Holy thats close

OPP

[Tony]

Its close yup but it works

Nice bench there OPP....good to see you on the hunt gain

[GRAFiZ]

Great score OPPAINTER... quick question about the board...

So far, from what you've seen, does this product warrant the amount of enthusiasm we're all giving it?

I mean, everyone is going nuts over this board and it even has me rather worked up about it.

Thanks!

[Bennah]

Opp make yourself one of these.
http://www.jason57.iwarp.com/msineo2/o.jpg

use #6 bolts and since the holes are just big enough in the mobo for #6 make sure you drill accurate. after you do the 9 holes place the mobo in the support and make 2 #6 holes where you would use the hold down then apply 2 3in #6 bolts to the board with the exact same height as the stand offs with the washers and so on so it looks like this
http://www.jason57.iwarp.com/msineo2/s.jpg

add some foam like this
http://www.jason57.iwarp.com/msineo2/r.jpg

install it and get this
http://www.jason57.iwarp.com/msineo2/p.jpg
http://www.jason57.iwarp.com/msineo2/q.jpg

I gaurt you nothings going to warp at all as I uses some massive force now wihtout any issues.. If you get my design right you could add 200lbs force to the chip wihtout a warp anywhere.

I had issues rem and I think this was my cure.

Sorry for being offtopic here but whats all the red liquid on the mobo jason? Some kind of insulation?

OPP, that 38K is looking good. Good luck with the 'serious' benching

The DFI SLI-DR is looking good... me will have to pre-order one.

Why cant OPP, Big Toe and OPB wait till its out in the shops before they start to tease us with hardware that the 'normal' xtremesystems overclocker cant get yet

[uwackme]

1.95Vgpu = 789.... holy snike's batman. Guess I wont worry about my 1.485 at the moment, thanks a bunch OPP!

Graf.... I think the enthusiasm is justified. DFI is putting into the bios all the adjustability the OC'ing community would want and that is VERY EXCITING. Nothing makes me happier than a manufacturing actually meeting the needs of thier customers.

Also, we know from his proven track record on Infinity/LPuB that Oskar Wu puts the real effort to perfecting the bios. Showing respect for DFI's customers that no other OEM bothers to bother with.

Ex: ABit "the enthusiast company" that didnt bother putting CPC on/off control into the bios, when 2x 512M sticks really required it to solve alot of problems for customers.

To me its like having the RedSox put out a motherboard that I know is gonna get me a shot at the Worldseries.....so Im happy to spend the $$ with them, and can look forward to sorting out my OC issues NOT debugging thier product before I get to my OC issues.

The real excitement over this board (justified imho) stems from the fact it heralds the next big step in power dropped into the hands of the enthusiast community....where it takes us, we'll just have to see....

Now THAT's exciting

[GRAFiZ]

1.95Vgpu = 789.... holy snike's batman. Guess I wont worry about my 1.485 at the moment, thanks a bunch OPP!

Graf.... I think the enthusiasm is justified. DFI is putting into the bios all the adjustability the OC'ing community would want and that is VERY EXCITING. Nothing makes me happier than a manufacturing actually meeting the needs of thier customers.

Also, we know from his proven track record on Infinity/LPuB that Oskar Wu puts the real effort to perfecting the bios. Showing respect for DFI's customers that no other OEM bothers to bother with.

Ex: ABit "the enthusiast company" that didnt bother putting CPC on/off control into the bios, when 2x 512M sticks really required it to solve alot of problems for customers.

To me its like having the RedSox put out a motherboard that I know is gonna get me a shot at the Worldseries.....so Im happy to spend the $$ with them, and can look forward to sorting out my OC issues NOT debugging thier product before I get to my OC issues.

The real excitement over this board (justified imho) stems from the fact it heralds the next big step in power dropped into the hands of the enthusiast community....where it takes us, we'll just have to see....

Now THAT's exciting

I see your point and I hope so.

My last mobo purchase was an Abit IC7-MAX3... following montsh worth of buildup. Well, it's a great motherboard indeed, but nowhere near worth all that was once spouted off about it.

To my eyes, what I see that seperates the DFI from the rest is the BIOS options. Voltage settings out of this world, memory settings to make your head spin, etc. etc.

But, I worry that when everyone who wants one gets one, say in a few months, people might find it doesnt overclock much better then the MSI or ASUS, etc. Thats all.

I'm not going to lie, I'd love to have one in my grubby hands right now, but I worry it might end up being just a little bit of a let down.

Thanks for the info!

[Holberg]

I have a 20-24pin converter,and I measured on the 4 extra pins there was=>
12V 3.3V 5V and ground

I you sure the converter doesn't work, because it's has it all???

[TysonM]

Sorry for being offtopic here but whats all the red liquid on the mobo jason? Some kind of insulation?

The colder you get with your phase change, the more careful you have to be with condensation. I'm pretty sure that stuff is to prevent corrosion. I've seen the results that months of condensation can cause (a whole bunch of green, crusty pins falling off the cpu as it is examined!). So this was a wise move, especially with how freaking cold cascades get!!!

[daniel734]

Excuse me but if the DFI nF4 will use 24pin will it work with my Antec Neopower??? Im getting kind of worried here cuz i dont no about power connectors. =/
thanks

[synergy321]

wow guys thanks for the updates waiting for zzf to get there ultra back in stock , then im picking up on of these , i know lol that red stuff, from what it sounds is a good idea, but pouring liquid on a 100 electrical product makes me scared . thanks again you 3, hopefully more to come.

btw: either of you guys with the boards have pdp 3200 tccd or ocz 3200 rev 2 tccd, i want to know the performence between these 2 so i can make my choice. thanks

[Flask28]

Excuse me but if the DFI nF4 will use 24pin will it work with my Antec Neopower??? Im getting kind of worried here cuz i dont no about power connectors. =/
thanks

I have a neopower and just doublechecked that. It is fully ATX2.0 compliant and has the 24pin connection. You're good!

[eva2000]

My lttle blue Asus H/S on it now is frying big time, hot, hot.

OPP

maybe DFI should do what Asus did with their new boards, add a small aluminium heatspreader underside of the motherboard to further disspate heat ? IIRC, Asus managed to reduce temps by another 10C like that ? maybe a thin plate that extends to the side of the board via dual heatpipes

[choseone214]

The Red Paint guys Is Electronic circuit paint. good for +200f to -80c

I need it at high clocks

Opp> Looking good. I might have to put something fresh up now. My new chip a week 0442GPMW is a win2000 lover.. Rem the old chip? The one King got "3580mhz" that was a winxp+2003 only chip? This is same, but Its doing win2000

[felinusz]

bigtoe - page one

2x256BH5 3500Platinum.

Now these modules did 240fsb 3.3v on the NF2 UltraB revB which i didn't think to bad....they do a LOT better on the NF4

Everest is a pretty slick bench as it also reports memory latency. Im running cas1.5 here at 264fsb 1:1 for the lowest latency bench i have seen with my dimms. Also the jump from 240 on the NF2 to 264fsb is pretty astounding on this NF4....seems the board loves BH5 in a BIG way.

Did 264 MHz with this nForce4 board only need 3.3V (what you needed for 240 MHz with the old nForce 2 board) to run stably?

BH-5 running at 264 MHz stably with 3.3V of VDIMM is indeed insane, and reason enough for me to purchase one of these new DFI motherboards once they're available! With this kind of result, 270+ should be possible with 3.6V+ of VDIMM.

But the comparison is unfair if all the variables (namely VDIMM) did not remain constant across both test platforms (NF2/NF4 - 240MHz/264MHz).

[ison]

X850XT PCI-E card fits perfect in both PCI-E slots.

OPP has an alpha or beta board. RG and I have RC boards.

magnetic fan spins down (blows down on chipset)

just woke up...more in a bit

from:http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/show...5&pagenumber=4

ok then ati x850xt it is for me

One question (i know it must be answered somewhere but i cannot find it)

The dfi boards have the A2 or the A3 revision of the nforce4 chip?

Is this the same with the sli AND ultra mobos?

[Kobalt]

A3 revision on all boards....how else do you think people are hitting like 1300ht

[ison]

A3 revision on all boards....how else do you think people are hitting like 1300ht

ok thanx (im not too experienced so didnt quite noticed it)

[jikdoc]

A3 revision on all boards....how else do you think people are hitting like 1300ht

i thought tony mentioned that the dfi board automatically scales ldt down with overclocks to keep htt ~ 1000. people didn't notice it since it was done automatically and assumed they were running htt ~ 1300

[OPPAINTER]

Opp> Looking good. I might have to put something fresh up now. My new chip a week 0442GPMW is a win2000 lover.. Rem the old chip? The one King got "3580mhz" that was a winxp+2003 only chip? This is same, but Its doing win2000

Hay, didn't you say you wanted to swap me that chip a ways back?

OPP

[althes]

Cant wait to see opp push on for the record

[xgman]

i thought tony mentioned that the dfi board automatically scales ldt down with overclocks to keep htt ~ 1000. people didn't notice it since it was done automatically and assumed they were running htt ~ 1300

That is sort of what he said, but where do you see this scaling down and can someone confirm this?

[Chris27]

what about this PSU, will it work?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...101-502&depa=0

[TinTin]

DFI tech support already stated they will NOT support 20 to 24 (or very close to similar comments), they insist that an ATX 12 PSU be used, and all 24 pins connected.

Check dfi-street on that one.

Look in this thread:
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/show...&pagenumber=35

Using 20pins PSU is totally okay, even overclocking

[TinTin]

I was useing the 5v jumper for memory last night.
It works good, it ran my VX at 3.65 without problems.

OPP

3.9V or above seems to be unstable, did you try?
3.8V with 512*2 BH-5 to window is okay, but 3.9V gave me BSOD
What I tried before was a sample board.

[thebluesgnr]

The dfi boards have the A2 or the A3 revision of the nforce4 chip?

People always ask this about nForce4 boards... if the specs says it can do 2.0GTs Hyper Transport there's nothing to worry about.