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    OH my LOrd! THat is a beautiful cutting job on the controller.

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    Sweet!! What does the controller display?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trans am
    I have always wondered what this chip could do under phase. If the cold doesn't kill her, nothing will. this cpu has been through more hell than you can imagine. I ran 1.8v through it. It's missing a pin. I run 1.75v through it 24/7 and it still manages to do 2.6 on water. It's my baby.
    sounds like a red-headed step child from the way you abused it

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    I just spoke with Reggie last night. He said I am going to lose bottom 3 with cards longer than 6.5 inches. I am not planning on sli, so this won't matter. I really think the main issue will be audigy2zs. it's about 6.75in. so going by the left curve of the compressor, I think it will fit. Even if I need to bend the end of the pcb slightly or trim it with a dremel.
    Other than that, I think this will work fine for now. My next concern is the pci-e boards usually have 2 1x slots above the pci-e x16 slot so I this might be tricky. mainly I need 2 actual slots for the pci-e x16 card. And I think ati is going to be the best option since nvdia uses extremely long pcb's. I'm glad I ordered that x850xt.ATI is able to cram a lot on a pretty short pcb. He is going to move the compressor all the way to the front and turn it slightly to allow as much room as possible for the expansion cards. The Sporlan controller is used to control temps in massive walk in refridgeration units. It displays, temps in red LED> and is fuilly progaramable. Reggie cut out the mesh screen perfectly.


    Jikdoc gave me an idea. since the cm stacker is btx compatible, we might be able to flip the motherboard 180 degrees, thus making all the pci slots available and the door would be on the right side. The only factor would be cpu socket might be too close to the compressor. but it's worth a try. The pci slot panel can be popped out like leggos, and the 120mm fan bracket canm also be swiched around vice versa . here's a link yo what I mean...
    http://www.systemcooling.com/cm_stacker-06.html


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    pics of how it'll probably look

    i have pics of how trans am's mobo will probably look if installed in btx fashion on this thread:

    http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=47435

    i think the only problem to worry about is whether there is enough room in the case for the slack in the evap hose to fit when the case door is closed. i love the btx format even aside from the theoretical cooling benefits. 1 added benefit that i didn't forsee is that i can mount my bga ramsinks on the vga card without using epoxy with just gravity + thermal paste to hold the ramsinks down onto the video card. 1 minor disadvantage is that when you read the diagnostic led pci bracket, you have to remember it's upside down.

    EDIT: having trouble connecting to imageshack so just wait a little bit to see the pictures in that thread.

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    If you want, I can cut anything into the side of the case with my autocam router.

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    Sounds an intresting idea

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    here it goes

    courtesy of jikdoc

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    hm, I wonder if chilly1 could wave his magic and put one his custom r410a single phase change units inside a V2000

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    Fugger, do you have a board that has a similar layout to the dfi Nf4 board mybe you can put it in the case to see if we can flip it. Let's worry about getting this thing to fit before doing any window mods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bennah
    hm, I wonder if chilly1 could wave his magic and put one his custom r410a single phase change units inside a V2000
    I'm sure he could. But in any case its not usually possible to run pure r410, dont get that discussion going again.. lol

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    I just spoke with Reggie and he sent an image that shows the location of the compressor on the board. here's an image of the dfi Nf4 board in regular and in the flipped position. I am not going to bother with sli since I think dual 2 gpus on a single pcb will be more realistic. etc. I won't get off topic here, but the DFI is definitely the board of choice right now, sli or no sli, it is the likely the king of 939 overclocking potential!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FUGGER
    In a few pictures where Reggie is holding the block you can see where he stuck his thumb in one of my Lytron fans just a few seconds after I told him to stay clear.

    It almost ripped his whole fingernail off.
    ouch

    but cool phase change setup
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    was talking with alvin (trans am) about it and we were wondering, does the compressor put out heat or is it cool to the touch. reason i ask is according to the dfi thread about the memory voltage, the area alvin outlined where the compressor would lie in the btx configuration is the area that has been noted to need good airflow because the mosfets will get hot when switched to draw power from the 5v line.

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    Compressors put out a lot of heat - they normally run very hot to the touch (too hot to touch most of the time). Temps as high as 70 celcius is not uncommon.

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    Not on a little hermy like that. It will be hot to the touch though

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    It depends. With a large cube condenser (3 or 6 pass I think, about 3x that of a prommy) my 1/4hp compressor runs quite cool under load. On the other hand, using the same compressor and condenser on a waterchiller I built, the compressor runs very hot.

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    Well, don't forget, there are 2 80mm fans in the bottom rear in the area where the 2nd psu goes. I could push some cool air in the area in question. Reggie is going to ship everything how it is, except he did some welding to make the compressor as close to the front of the case as possible. If it turns out I need to go the BTX route, I can easily do the change over. THanks for all your feedback..
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    omg!

    got styles :p

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    thats pure craftmanskill !!

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    Reggie. Any updates? I would like to have it before next year

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    Haha. I hear it'll be another 3 months before you get it. j/k

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    Update..
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    if ya flipped the mobo tray, wouldnt ya need to push the comp further toward where the mobo used to be?
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    You better cut a hole for an A/C duct.

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    is the remedy

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