OCZ Powerstream 600w Vs. PC Power&cooling 510w (the definite answer)

[computerpro3]

I second this!! OCZ PSU's are awesome!!!

Topower

[Playful_Buffalo]

the Pc Power and Cooling is louder....if that matters

[ocmyface]

not at all actually, the only time it would matter to me is if i had a near silent PC

i cant hear my PSU over my case fans at all...

[STEvil]

600w Powerstream showed today.. its a beuty

[fagin]

600w Powerstream showed today.. its a beuty

Mine arrived today as well Yes it is a beaut, even an idiot like me can route these cables neatly! However, just put it in, and I can't OC my 2X6800 GTs past 370/1050 Using a dual PSU set up I can clock to 420/1140.

Anyone any ideas? The 2 molex>PCIe adaptor is a cheap one that came with the GC, no others seem available in the UK - could the lack of shielding effect it? I'm using the two shielded molex connectors. Sorry for the slight hijack - but its usefull info maybe (certainly for me!) on the OCZ 600.

[cantankerous]

I just got my 600w psu and it was DOA. =(

[fagin]

I just got my 600w psu and it was DOA. =(

Is that the replacement one?

[Grov]

Topower

EDIT: no flaming
-saaya

[ed.howell]

Topower

SO WHAT????
If they are made to OCZ specs and they are covered under warranty for 3years replacement and 5 years limited I don't see the difference.

You paid $80.00 more for a PSU that I would put money on is not ANY better than my OCZ 520W. Other than the fact that you could get yours custom.

[fagin]

SO WHAT????
If they are made to OCZ specs and they are covered under warranty for 3years replacement and 5 years limited I don't see the difference.

You paid $80.00 more for a PSU that I would put money on is not ANY better than my OCZ 520W. Other than the fact that you could get yours custom.

Don't forget that warrantee is a replacement warranty as well, they won't send you out a dodgy repaired one, and say what you will there customer support rocks.

[fagin]

Mine arrived today as well Yes it is a beaut, even an idiot like me can route these cables neatly! However, just put it in, and I can't OC my 2X6800 GTs past 370/1050 Using a dual PSU set up I can clock to 420/1140.

Anyone any ideas? The 2 molex>PCIe adaptor is a cheap one that came with the GC, no others seem available in the UK - could the lack of shielding effect it? I'm using the two shielded molex connectors. Sorry for the slight hijack - but its usefull info maybe (certainly for me!) on the OCZ 600.

Just to answer my own question! The problem was with the dodgy Akasa converters that I had purchased! They were wired around the wrong way! 12v to 5v. I only noticed today when I took it out of the case to connect an external secondary PSU for testing purposes! WTF!

[computerpro3]

SO WHAT????
If they are made to OCZ specs and they are covered under warranty for 3years replacement and 5 years limited I don't see the difference.

You paid $80.00 more for a PSU that I would put money on is not ANY better than my OCZ 520W. Other than the fact that you could get yours custom.

I will put $500 paypal that the pcp&c 510 is better than the ocz 520. I will prove it with specs, graphs, and charts.

AND a quote from OCZ themselves

[computerpro3]

XXXXXXXXXXXX

why? becauses I pointed out who manufcatures your psu?

real intelligent

EDIT:
-saaya

[computerpro3]

Just to answer my own question! The problem was with the dodgy Akasa converters that I had purchased! They were wired around the wrong way! 12v to 5v. I only noticed today when I took it out of the case to connect an external secondary PSU for testing purposes! WTF!

thats interesting, do the cards clock to their dual psu specs with the problem fixed? I've never heard of a convertor limiting overclocks, thats def. something to watch for in the future.

[Grov]

why? becauses I pointed out who manufcatures your psu?

real intelligent

No because xxxxxxxx, and you keep on about it.

The OCZ 520Watt is a mint PSU, end of story.

It's well cheaper than the other one as well.

EDIT: no flaming
-saaya

[chunkylover77]

pcp&c = adjustable pots and better rails, higher sustained output, less mv ripple, higher peak output, customized options, 5 year warranty, any anything you can possibly think of done to it. You want 50amps on 12v line? ask em. want every cable a certain length? they'll do it. Want a 20 SATA connecter psu? Done. Exernal pots mounted on 3 foot wires? WAy ahead of you. No limit on adjustable pots, and no OVP? Of course.

I can't believe people think OCZ is on par with pcp&c, when they are made by topower and pcp&c is zippy/emacs, and I can give you quotes from an ocz rep themselves as well as hipro about the pcp&c's superiority.

Computerpro this also costs an arm and a leg.

[computerpro3]

Computerpro this also costs an arm and a leg.

so does this

Dissolved: my msi neo2 did the same thing to me.. i dunno what happened but its piont blank dead. my x800 lived, and my ocz 520w seems ok, but im going to rma them

esoteradactyl: had 2 neo's die on me. im starting to see more threads about these boards mysteriously dying. i was using an ocz 520w both times this happened. is it just a coincidence??

JessM: just bought a new amd 64 system and i wanted to overclock so the ocz powerstream psu was the perfect psu to get. I had just found my max stable overclock of 2.47 htt of 275 and ran prime 95 for 9 hours 0 errors. I turned off my computer for an hour then turned it back on and heard a loud crack right when i hit the power button. Now the computer will not turn on, but the green led on the mobo is still glowing... swaped out psu and it booted up and posted (didnt attempt to load windows) i also switched motherboards (put in my spare abit av8) and the psu still didnt work so...... this a psu problem?

glorfy: PSU is incapable of running system at Ultra speeds (tested with 2 PSUs to cconfirm that system was stable all the way up to CPU = 2585 and Graphics card = 420/1140). Single OCZ 520 PSU can't even manage 375/1040, CPU = 2200 stable - which is suprising particuarly when you considered I'm using a winchchester, and thereby saving 1a! I posted in the overclocking forum initially, but wanted to post here to just get an answer.

Additional information

Running a DVD RW, DVD, and 2 Maxtor Diamondmax 9 160GB hard drives (not raid)

fooforon: Hi,

this is my second psu and this is the second time its popped, and I know its not me cause before I got them my I had my old psu running alot longer with the same spec and still runs the computers as the OCZ psu is dead. What should I do? I like the psu when its running but they keep dieing!

1st one: The first time I put it in and turned it on poped. it was dead, returned no problem

2nd one: Ran for about 4-5 months(was very good for that time) then one moring went to turn on my computer and pop again. its dead. I cant return it ot the store cause they are closed till Jan 5th

Mr Smiley: When I tried turning my computer on this morning the power supply made a faint popping noise. The noise was not loud at all and the fans did spin for like 2 seconds but then it shut off. I checking all wires inside the case and I even switched the power chord but the dang thing still wouldn't start. So I switched back to my old 300W back up and to my dismay my computer turned on. So I don't know what to do know.

SIN: Same thing happened to mine mr smiley

[quote]Type R:Ok i have a little problem i can not power up my computer.
The board tell is beig suplied with power because that litle green light that asus board have is on but when i push the button to turn power on nothing happs. I´v plugeed and unplugged all connectors in every combination possible, and nothing can seem to get pc started with Modstream, because with may old PSU there is no problem.
nop doesn´t jumstart and i went and buy on of those already made things to jumstart psus since i't only 1,5€ the psu is pretty much dead[quote]

[quote]Hates: Just got my new setup today and the PSU seems to be killing every mains lead I put into it. The fans on the mother board move a fraction and then thats it. Then I get nothing more and the leads is dead, even when I try it in a different appliance. [quote]

JKB2198: Just recieved the new power supply from xoxide two days ago. I install new mb and cpu and new pcz 520. Everything works great and am very satisfied. Well I watched a movie last night and when I wake up today it will not power on. So I put back in my antec 480 true blue and it powers up just fine. I am a computer bench tech and it the powersupply does not smell burnt at all. Also all the lines where always green for the two days. The power supply worked. It was also turned off multiple times because this was during a fresh install of xp pro so lots of resetting going on. I dont know what to do.

[quote]z80: Brand new connected for test, checked voltage was correct , turned on power and BANG!.
Already rma'ed it, i notice other people have had them go pop as well i hope this isnt a production error, surely they are tested after assembly[quote]

Garnet: I had the same big bang and blue sparks when I plugged my brand

new 420 PowerStream in for the first time yesterday

pudds:Ive just got one of the new 520w psu's and when i plugged it in it just went pop. Id checked the voltage selector beforehand and i thought it was set right. Ive switched it to 240v now but every time i switch it on it just blows the fuse in the plug

mikepvan: Just got my powerstream 520 from new egg 9-14-04. I turned on my computer last nite the second I pushed the power button I heard a pop, saw a flash out of the back of the computer, and its dead.
Please help.

Thank you
Mike

alterbridge86: Hey guys - i've had my PowerStream 520 for a few months now and i've been very pleased with its performance until now. I just yesterday switched to AMD platform and I hooked it all up, booted up and the computer was running. Adjusted some settings in the bios, turned it off, turned it back on and i began to smell a little burning smell...so iturned it off immediately...i sniffed the scent back up to the powersupply - so i tried to turn it on again to see if it was really that and sure enough, computer would not turn on. I through my roommates PSU into my computer and powered it on and it worked perfectly, so i definately have to say that my PowerStream is dead as a doornail How do i go about getting an RMA? Please let me know ASAP as it is urgent that this computer is returned to working status! Thanks for the help

canadianputergu: Hey heres the story.

I recently bought a DDR Diagnostic Device which worked fine out of the box m but a few days later it began having issues with staying or booting with the set voltage.

Anyways today when i booted the system it again was incorrect on the DDR booster (supposed to be 3.0 but instead was 2.7) and the system wouldnt boot from mem failure unable to run at my settings with this voltage, so i waited a few minutes in bios and rebooted hoping maybe the booster would warm up but still a no go.

So i reboot again and wait in bios for 5 minutes to see if it corrects itselve because i REALLY dont want to open my case up AGAIN and re adjust the booster. So i come back and restart the computer , again its 2.6-2.7 on the booster and i miss the bios screen and it starts to load windown but hangs on a black screen so i have to restart my computer by holding the power button down for 5 seconds.

So i shut the system down and turn it back on but this time as soon as i hit the power button there was a flash of light from the PSU near that back (think it was whitish/blue) and a very slight snap like noise and the psu and system is dead off with no response from the psu when i try starting the system again, i try unplugging the psu from the Power bar for a hour and try to start again but nothing, Im using a P4C800E-Deluxe and it has a little green led on the mobo that is always on even when the computer is off as long and the psu is connected , this light and the LAN lights will not go on period.

The PSU appears dead , i had to run out and BUY another PSU (antec) as a replacement so i could get on the net and get some help , as there where NO phone numbers in or on the box , manual or leaflets for the OCZ PowerStream 520 or the DDR Diagnostic device. Did i miss something?

prim3: I just got from newegg.com. I hooked up to my system and all the fans turned on for about a second and everything turned off. It's acting like the over voltage system is coming on. I have setup to 115 and all, I don't understand. Brand new and I can't get it to work. I've hooked up to my friends tower too and does the same thing. Is there something I need/forgot to do or is this thing just f'n dead already.

hoobnoob: Hey Guys,
Bought a Powerstream 520w psu bout a month ago, fitted it and it ran kosher up untill yesterday. went to turn on mah pc, everything came on for about 1/2 sec, then went off, an won't come back on. I checked to see whether any wires were shorting, checked the mobo to see if that was shorting and dissconected all but the essentials but it seems totaly dead. I tried kick-starting the PSU using the bridge-the-green-and-black-wires-using-a-paper-clip method, but when i hit the power switch, all i get is a violent blue flash from inside the PSU. OK.
I figure the things out for the count, so all I really want to know is how I send the thing back to OCZ so they can repair it/send me a new one? I live in the UK, so do I need to phone someone or what?

craigyp70: hi i just bought a new 520w ocz psu, installed it into my new case, add the adapter so that it would fit into my asus socket 939 mobo. i changed the setting so that is was set to 230v coz i live in the uk, i turned it on, my processer fan just span once, and the mother board led flicked on. checked that everything was installed properly, disconected all the things that didnt need to be connected and tryed again, same problem, i then used the psu in my old mother board to see if that would work but again the mother board led just flicked on and then off. is there anything that i am doing wrong?

[quote]mikehowett: My PC was working this morning, went to turn it on when I got in from work and nothing! Checked the fuse in the PSU plug and it was fine, checked all cables/connections, again all was fine, but still nothing! I decided to remove the PSU from my case and start it manually by connecting the green and black pins, still nothing! I guess it's dead! Also, I don't know if this is normal but there's something rattling around inside it, dunno what it is? I've only had it about 3 weeks[quote]

mikehowett: Hey guys, just to let you know I managed to get an RMA with the shop I bought the PSU from. Also I turned it on after leaving it for at least 12 hours just to make sure it wasn't working and after about 2 seconds it made a very loud bang! Gave me quite a fright

mikehowett: AGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! I don't belive this, I just got my new RMA replacement PSU, connected it all up went to turn it on and nothing Is there any way I can check that the new PSU isn't faulty without having it all connected up

kennon: This is the problem that I'm having with mine except it's not all the time, just when I plug in my 9800 Pro.

jinu117: Was extremely happy with PSU till today...
Moved all the item to new case, connected it, turned on and saw spark flying out toward power socket of PSU!!!
shocked, I checked the connection at back which looks fine... opened side window to find that mobo isn't getting any power. Took out psu to test and it doesn't turn on. Fortunately other components are fine (spare 300W psu handy). However, the Powerstream is refusing to even start.
What could be wrong?

hoof: Hey guys new to the forums but just having problems with my PSU.
My brand new OCZ PSU from newegg just got here I hooked it up and it worked fine for a minute. Then I heard a loud pop or what sounded like a spark and I look at my PC and its all off. I tried turning it back on after dismantling the entire PC and putting it back together to make sure of no Mobo shorts etc but the PSU just wont work. I hooked it into my other PC and it wont even turn on. I've tried everything and any help with this would be great since I really was looking forward to using this wonderful product

That was just 5min of googling. I also came up with tons and tons of other 520'2 (which the above is exclusivly), 470, and 600w failures. I can post them too if you want.

That was all found on the first page of google. Do a google for pcp&c dead and you get 0 results that contain a failed pcp&c on the first page.

No here's my challenge to you

Find me only 10 instances on the entier internet of pcp&c 510 deluxe failing. How long did it take you? can you even do it?


I'm waiting.

[computerpro3]

No because XXXXXXXXX, and you keep on about it.

The OCZ 520Watt is a mint PSU, end of story.

It's well cheaper than the other one as well.

refer to above post. Can i have proof about how great it is please?

I'm not saying its a terrible suppy, and its certainly better than a generic. In fact, I reccomend them on hardforums in the psu section sometimes. but it's simply not in pcp&c's league.


edit: and btw the pcp&c warranty is better too.

5 years warranty guaranteed to power a dual cpu sli system with up to 12 hard drives installed.

[chunkylover77]

I'm not looking to justify anything. I have had both a 510 deluxe and the ocz. They are both nice psu's. You just said that you can get all of those options with the pcp&c supply and I was just pointing out that all those options would cost an arm and a leg. The powerstream comes stock with the voltage control right on the back. That is exactly what I was looking for.
You however seem to think that the ocz is not worthy of anyone's consideration because the pcp&c is better. This is the second forum that I have seen you act this way. It is almost getting to the point of fanboy. I am glad you are happy with your psu. I was happy with my pcp&c as well. I am just happier with the ocz. They can coexist you know.

[computerpro3]

You however seem to think that the ocz is not worthy of anyone's consideration because the pcp&c is better..

I'm not saying its a terrible suppy, and its certainly better than a generic. In fact, I reccomend them on hardforums in the psu section sometimes.

Again, I'm not saying it's bad, but electrically it's not in the same league as pcp&c. And I can also give you a quote from a certified electrical engineer to back that up. as well as hipro.

The thread starter asked if ocz or pcp&c is better, and I'm not telling him based off my opinion, but off of maximum sustained power @50C (which OCZ does not even rate, but which pcp&c's are rated standard at) and 40C, failure rate, recalls ocz has gone through, the two companies history (although ocz has def. turned it around customer support wise, kudos to them for that), psu derating curves, mv ripple, line tolerance and stability (true, not rated) warranty, options, customization, and support, which is equal, the fact that OCZ is made by topower which has a relativley bad reputation, with some of their supplys being banned from the market in several countries for being unsafe, and that PCP&C is made by zippy/emacs, on of the highest quality server high end supply producers out there.

Quite simply the OCZ wins outright in none of those, and the pcp&c takes most if not all, so unless there is some other criteria for judging high end psu's which I am misssing (and I do not consider cost one, simply due to the fact that we're judging "best performance, the final word" and if yhou didn't have the money to buy an ultra nice rig you wouldn't be looking at either of these psu's), then it is clear which one wins. By facts.


But saying they are below pcp&c means little really (as the only company that isn't is zippy, who produces them), considering they are still above antec, vantec, and all those other manufacturers out there less fortron and enermax in my book.

[L0$t Pr0PhEt]

And I just bought a OCZ psu for a msi neo2

[computerpro3]

And I just bought a OCZ psu for a msi neo2

Just run it on a ups and you will msot likely be fine. Strangely, I have yet to find a lot of problems with the 420's, much less than the 520 and 600's.

although those first two quotes that i posted are scary.

[L0$t Pr0PhEt]

Just run it on a ups and you will msot likely be fine. Strangely, I have yet to find a lot of problems with the 420's, much less than the 520 and 600's.

although those first two quotes that i posted are scary.

Just a question: Whats an ups (I live in Belgium :p).
thx

[computerpro3]

Just a question: Whats an ups (I live in Belgium :p).
thx

and uninterruptable power supply. I reccomend them for ALL psu's, not just ocz's. I am looking at getting a new one for myself, I'm looking specifically at an APC 1500AV smart ups.

A good one like tripplite or APC plugs directly into the wall, conditions power, provides surge supression with a $200000 insurance policy that they DO follow through on, will handle brownouts and even blackouts for time varying from 10-200 minutes (although for the 200minute one we're talking serious $$$$$). The apc 1500av will handle my rig for about a half hour during a power outage, giving you time to shut down, save work, etc. They are just a really, really good idea to have.

[Playful_Buffalo]

i am running on a UPS and was waiting for the OCZ 520w to come back in stock at newegg......question for you computerpro3, would these "popping" things happen if you run off of a UPS?