Ok....I'm cracking under the pressure...going S745...

[BIGG_RAY]

I MUST HAVE A 64 NOWWWWWWW!!! LOL

I'm getting the DFI...What processor? CH OR NC? Which will OC the best? I got some BH-5 (in sig) that i want to run with a 1/1 divider...whats the best proc for this?

[viccyran]

I MUST HAVE A 64 NOWWWWWWW!!! LOL

I'm getting the DFI...What processor? CH OR NC? Which will OC the best? I got some BH-5 (in sig) that i want to run with a 1/1 divider...whats the best proc for this?

754 :P

A lot of the newer NC's have had good yields, good luck with your voyages.

[bh2k]

You can't run 1:1 on a S754 with pc3000 ram because it picks it up as pc2700 and not compatible.

[BIGG_RAY]

Hahaha...switched the 4 and the 5...

um...well it DEFINATLY wont be running at PC3000 speeds...is that still a problem?

[BIGG_RAY]

well the egg has CH 3400+, and a true mobile CH 3400....do the new DFI boards still work with mobiles??? i hope so haha....or i can get a NC 3400....decisions...

[BIGG_RAY]

god...i dont know now...if DFI comes out with their S939 before i finally have enough money...im just gonna go S939 then...but it need 2 be their ultra D

[reject]

you live in america, get a 2700 or 2800 whichever is the slowest CH mobile
cause the dfi can run any HTT

[SPQQKY]

You can't run 1:1 on a S754 with pc3000 ram because it picks it up as pc2700 and not compatible.

Sure you can, you just have to set it manually. The KHX3000 should go about 240 2-2-2-5 give or take a few MHz.

[BIGG_RAY]

why such a low proc? The 2800 will oc as far as a 3400 will?

[mcnbns]

A 3400+ will likely overclock better than a 2800+, or else the 2800+ would be sold as a 3400+. There are exceptions, but that's the general idea.

[Kanavit]

the A64 3400 CH should be a beast.

[BIGG_RAY]

yes i think im going with that...and an audigy 2!! muaahahaha lol

[agenda2005]

You can't run 1:1 on a S754 with pc3000 ram because it picks it up as pc2700 and not compatible.

BIGGY,
Don't let someone with Intel sig advise you on this. Your memory is good and more than capable. Go for 3400+ CH mobile! You will enjoy it man.

[CTKP]

Apparently you don't read around, regardless of what he runs he's right. There are instances where 2700/3000 won't run, or wont oc when used with a64s.

[blinky]

You can't run 1:1 on a S754 with pc3000 ram because it picks it up as pc2700 and not compatible.

no hes fine

that was a specific issue with the Asus A8V

[Wolf]

LOL, A little late aren't you? Socket 754 is dead already. Save your monry It would be silly not to go 939 at this point. The upgrade possibilities for socket 745 suck unless you plan on running Semprons in the future.

[reject]

754 is not dead. its just as fast as 939. dual channel only increases your super pi by 1 sec it does nothing else
the current 939 mobos suck, he would have to get a new mobo after nf4 comes out, that will be sometime next year and the early boards always have bugs.
also you cant phase winchesters easily so whats the point
upgrade path? i upgrade my stuff like every few months. most people do
if you get a 939 nf3 then you also have a bad upgrade path

reason i said 2700 and 2800 was cause i also said mobile. a mobile will oc about the same as a 3400 and be more awesome and low price

[mdzcpa]

It would be silly not to go 939 at this point.

Agreed.

[Tek]

Got the DFI UT and a 3700+ CH myself, and I love the rig and its performance. It'll do 3ghz, but that is with phase change. Generally, I see the NC overclock better than the CH, in terms of speed/clock, but the 1mb L2 cache does seem to make a difference in some benches/games. If you get a good CH(0432 or newer/2.6v), then that is great, but unlikely unless you get a 3400+ or 3700+. The NC generally have newer steppings/week, than the CH of equal lower PR ratings. There is a general trend, that the newer CH/NC OC very well, but that isn't certain.

I have to agree with Reject, that I really don't see a DC advantage with the s939 as being important for most applications, especially if comparing s939 WC/NC to s754 CH, though I am still in the dark about s754 NC vs s939 NC.

AFAIK, no s939 board delievers the range of options the s754 DFI does, unless you wanna mod the s939 board, which in itself could have its problems.

Go DFI UT + CH, me thinks. The only reason I would ever consider s939, are FX55 + DFI NF4 SLI, and as long as the later isn't around, I can't see any reason to go s939 for me. s939 without FX55, isn't really attractive and worth it to me. And if you wanna go FX55, why not wait till SLI. I figure, DFI NF4 SLI + 2x6800GT/U + FX55 + Vapochill LS = very lazy way to smash all records, with little effort, as they are atm. But that is just me

[_Eduard_]

Even if S754 would be dead it doesn't matter. They perform better than the s939 chips and there are way better boards for it too. And AFAIK you upgrade your mobo more than you upgrade your cpu (well at least I do). I'm not going s939 untill the prices come down and when there are decent boards available for reasonable prices

[BIGG_RAY]

Here is my reasoning for S754...

I already have an AGP card, so the mobo needs to be AGP. I am NOT buying PCI-E this early! AGP has been shafted! lol

So if I DID go S939, it would need to be NF3. The only NF3 that supports the vdimm i need are the DFI's and the dfi S939 nf3 isnt released.

Lastly, the S754 is cheaper, and almost as fast. What an awesome deal huh? Plus with all that massive oc potential. Then, once this platform can't cut it for me anymore, i will move to NF4 (or higher if its out) and go SLI // FX, because i've never bought top of the line before, and id like to once...lol

[hollywood]

Even if S754 would be dead it doesn't matter. They perform better than the s939 chips and there are way better boards for it too. And AFAIK you upgrade your mobo more than you upgrade your cpu (well at least I do). I'm not going s939 untill the prices come down and when there are decent boards available for reasonable prices

Man...alot of S754 people in here pissed that they're platform is going Sempron. A whole crate of sour grapes.

Dual Channel + Winchester will dog just about any S754 rig.

Go 939 if your going A64, it's the only intelligent choice.

[jjcom]

don't get the desktop 3400 CH they gonna be older, get the mobile...1mb L2 yaho!

jjcom

[Tek]

Man...alot of S754 people in here pissed that they're platform is going Sempron. A whole crate of sour grapes.

Dual Channel + Winchester will dog just about any S754 rig.

Go 939 if your going A64, it's the only intelligent choice.

Yeah, there wont be anything faster than the 3700+ on the s754, but what is the problem with this anyways? If you haven't got then 3700+, then you still have more powerful CPUs on the 754 to upgrade to, if the need is there.

It is silly to make it a matter of intelligence. Speaking of...

DC + Winchester = "dog just about any s754 rig", is quite a bold claim to make. Will your DC + Winchster rig(your sig) dog my s754 rig? I don't think so... I can name quite a few s754 rigs owned by XS members, that'll walk all over your Winchester rig, I am sure. I would like to see some clock to clock benches between WC s939 vs CH s754.

There are so many variables to OCing, that your statement is ... well, wrong. I hope you get the point, because I am sure on some level, you're right about it, just not generally or when in terms of OCing.

At least, the DFI UT + s754 NC/CH is a tried, tested, and good combination. WC are still in the dark, in terms of generally good OCing results. The whole WC + P95 problems, are something that could make people think twice about WC.

[hollywood]

Yeah, there wont be anything faster than the 3700+ on the s754, but what is the problem with this anyways? If you haven't got then 3700+, then you still have more powerful CPUs on the 754 to upgrade to, if the need is there.

It is silly to make it a matter of intelligence. Speaking of...

DC + Winchester = "dog just about any s754 rig", is quite a bold claim to make. Will your DC + Winchster rig(your sig) dog my s754 rig? I don't think so... I can name quite a few s754 rigs owned by XS members, that'll walk all over your Winchester rig, I am sure. I would like to see some clock to clock benches between WC s939 vs CH s754.

There are so many variables to OCing, that your statement is ... well, wrong. I hope you get the point, because I am sure on some level, you're right about it, just not generally or when in terms of OCing.

At least, the DFI UT + s754 NC/CH is a tried, tested, and good combination. WC are still in the dark, in terms of generally good OCing results. The whole WC + P95 problems, are something that could make people think twice about WC.

There are no Winchester and Prime 95 Problems other than people trying to OC too high and getting errors.

Folks don't get the OC they expect and BLAMMO! It must be a hardware or software flaw...Forget that they might simply be pushing things too hard.

I run Prime stable 24+ hours on my current rig, so it IS possible.

Also...ok...get me a clawhammer on air in a S754 mobo and lets compare clocks and memory bandwidth. I'm pushing 8000 Sandra unbuffered ATM. On the "dreaded" MSI Neo2...

Seriously...this place is getting more and more like some old-womans sewing circle with all the unfounded rumors and supposed "facts."