MSI K8N Neo 2 November 2004 released version

[IvanAndreevich]

My buddy got K8N Neo 2 board with 0440 Taiwan chip. In his system, he has Abit AV8 Third Eye baloney (glitching like a piece of ). Can you guys recommend a bios for this board? He has 2x512MB CH-5 crap.

I want to convince him to keep this board He's a bit obsessed with that 3rd eye table piece gadget

[MaxxxRacer]

Umm, tell him this is about the best board to come around in a long time. And EVERY overclocker is using it. And it is that way for a reason.

Is the CH-5 like hte BH-5 where nforce3 hates it with a passion? If so that blows for him. Though I have seen a few lucky souls who have gotten some pretty amazing oc's with bh-5.

And ask him one question. Do you want your system to crash and have a overzealous table clock, or does he want a fast, stable, overclocking monster? Abit has done extremely well in the past, but this time around they took one in the face and MSI really came through.

[IvanAndreevich]

>>And EVERY overclocker is using it
You think so for real? I mean I read the above pages and everything seems pretty stellar for these new boards. However, is it possible that ALL the problems will simply disappear from a new nForce3 chip?

>>Is the CH-5 like hte BH-5 where nforce3 hates it with a passion?
Maybe in that sence. In other ways, it's useless .

>>Do you want your system to crash and have a overzealous table clock, or does he want a fast, stable, overclocking monster
He has an FX-55 and he had an ASUS A8V Rev 2.0 which ran his CPU @ 2.8 Ghz but performance was less than stellar. The Abit board was screwing up A LOT and is very glitchy. However, he gets 1K more 3DMark at same settings with it.

What do you guys think - will the MSI perform like the Abit @ same overclock? Or is it all the hidden memory timings which he should tweak with A64 tweaker?

[Onepagebook]

i second that pikard.

Well from what one page said, its a week 44.

but i suppose it coudl be a week 04 year and 40 week. Not sure. either way its withing a month of eachother and its taiwan. so im good.

no , sorry, 0440--->week 40 of 2004

[MaxxxRacer]

like i said either way, its taiwan and its week 40. so i should (hopefully) get the improved performance like on page has gotten on his week 38 (i think it was 38)

[esdee]

"0440 is year 2004 (04) week 44" hmmmm ;-)

OOOOOOPSSSSS my bad !!!

[esdee]

Some update info about the new release of the MSI

0439A2 Korea chipset
0410xxxxxxx SN

Bios Flashed 1.3b6

My board doesn't like at all my khx3200 (2x512) BH-5
Ill have to wait for the booster to give another try with high volts

Im now working with 2x256 OCZ 3200 Plat EL rev1.1 (anyone now what chips this is?)

CPU is guaranteed to OC good and the MSI seems to follow ...
can hit up to 360HTT (3x)
and if i use my OCZ Plat the system is ROCK STABLE!
Another weird thing is i can hit enter (and select my HTT) under BIOS !!! no freeze when i select the disired HTT!!!

thats for now, gonna try some TCCD and a booster next week so i can give some more info


eSDee

[MaxxxRacer]

dont bother with the booster on the tccd. They dont respond to anything over 2.9. It just reduces the oc sometimes due to the extra heat. But there is an exception to this. It seem there is a new die of the tccd that likes voltage like the bh-5 does but it sill performs like tccd at low voltages. IE: The best clocking ram ever. But I dont know how to get ahold of this. OCZ showed it off, but no word on release. And now im not talkign about the voltmasters. Those are not tccd. They are somethign else.

BTW, nice htt speed. 360 is nuts...

[xgman]

All of the new sticks are the new die of tccd already in circulation.

[esdee]

dont bother with the booster on the tccd. They dont respond to anything over 2.9. It just reduces the oc sometimes due to the extra heat. But there is an exception to this. It seem there is a new die of the tccd that likes voltage like the bh-5 does but it sill performs like tccd at low voltages. IE: The best clocking ram ever. But I dont know how to get ahold of this. OCZ showed it off, but no word on release. And now im not talkign about the voltmasters. Those are not tccd. They are somethign else.

BTW, nice htt speed. 360 is nuts...

im going to use the booster on my BH-5. When talking about TCCD you meant the OCZ3200 plat rev 1.1?? i have no idea what ICs they use...(they're not mine)

and here's the proof

[jikdoc]

trans am -

i've got an msi board if you wanna try it out. (got most of my watercooling parts in today, except for the blocks) it's pre 0439 and i run into what i think is sata corruption above 260, i can run it up to 285 but after an hour or so of use, the comp randomly restarts and i get hd corruption. thank god for ghost. and yes, i've restored a nforce3 raid using ghost booted up from a spare ide drive.

[mike.elmes]

it's going to crap out at 2.3ghz on phase. seriously, you'll never know till you try.

Mines an older board, rev 1.0 and I am lovin this combo to death, currently 3d stable at 275x12...1.75v mach1 unmodded. Notice I'm using an Adapec PCI raid card though, if anyone cares to replicate. I have had this CPU comfortable at 3.3 with max voltage but havent pushed it to the ragged edge with this ram yet. I would like to ghost first

[trans am]

trans am -

i've got an msi board if you wanna try it out. (got most of my watercooling parts in today, except for the blocks) it's pre 0439 and i run into what i think is sata corruption above 260, i can run it up to 285 but after an hour or so of use, the comp randomly restarts and i get hd corruption. thank god for ghost. and yes, i've restored a nforce3 raid using ghost booted up from a spare ide drive.

I am so pissed right now. I just came back home from CT (thanksgiving at girlfriends dad's house) my system was left on and was frozem on the welcome screen. rebooted, windows won't go to desktop, just random reboot. took the 62w mobile out to check if it was ok. I noticed bent pin. tried to straighten it out with a credit card and got it ok, then my jerky hands bent other pin, tried bending that one back and pin broke off completely!! put it back in and exactly what I expected. no post. lol.
this is no way covered under warranty and since it's oem I can't send to AMD or newegg. not that they would even cover a broken pin, but that's not that point. It was a great cpu! I was going to pass it down to my friend who has 4 yo mac POS. I am currently back on sucky 3200+ CO my very first amd cpu from Dec 03. Now I really need a 939 board. I'm sitting here hitting refresh on newegg for these fvcking neo2's to get back in stock. It looks like after the giga 939 board didn't work out, I swapped dfi back in and must have bent the pin on that last swap. Anyone want this cpu? maybe you can fix it. I was going to order from monarch neo2, but they have pre november chipset I believe. I want to wait for egg since most likely will have latest.

[IvanAndreevich]

trans am
If you are skilled with a soldering iron, you can solder a pin on there. I think I could.

[IvanAndreevich]

OK, I am the new proud owner of my buddy's former MSI K8N Neo2. I will get a 3200+ winch and let her rip.

[MaxxxRacer]

Nice, let us know how it runs....

[Naughtyboy]

From what I have seen the nb doesnt need more voltage to hit the high htt's, and it isnt limited by cooling. This is mainly due to the fact that the htt is in the cpu and not the nb, and the nb is really not doing as much work as the via board, or any other board for that.

I´m not sure I would agree with you about the voltage. I got an early Taiwan board 0422 ...and when I go above 300htt I need atleast 1.6v, above 320 i need 1.7v and and board max voltage at 350htt.

[IvanAndreevich]

Naughtyboy
And why do you need such high HTT - just for the heck of it?

[CTKP]

Maybe he has a phase setup and a great clocking 3000+, so, 9*350?

[pik-ard v1.1]

trans am, ofcourse, no idea what week, but gameve.com has the k8n neo2's in stock: http://gameve.com/gve/Store/ProductD...sku=MB-MSI-068

[Naughtyboy]

Naughtyboy
And why do you need such high HTT - just for the heck of it?

I dont see how that is relevant....

Just stating that it DOES require higher voltage to run high htt...atleast for me.

[IvanAndreevich]

Naughtyboy
What's the highest HTT you've ever really used -> does it require bumping voltage.

[[XC] serlv]

Sorry to hear of your mishap, TA.

maybe you can fix it. I was going to order from monarch neo2, but they have pre november chipset I believe. I want to wait for egg since most likely will have latest.

I too, have been waiting on newegg, (ZZF is out, too ). I definitely want the latest board rev.. N'egg now says 12-1, ETA, instead of 11-26! That sux. I bought a 3500+ that will be here Monday and have no board to put it in. Ah well.

[Naughtyboy]

Naughtyboy
What's the highest HTT you've ever really used -> does it require bumping voltage.

I can run it 100% stable @ 325.....it´s benchable @ 350.

[Perc]

QA7353.1 0440A2 S TAIWAN ULTRA is what i just got from gameve about two weeks ago.... i take it this is one of the boards that is talked about in this thread?

thx perc,