MSI K8N Neo 2 November 2004 released version

[MaxxxRacer]

damn those are some high clocks on the vid card there on page... What voltages in memory and core on the vid card?

[split]

Thanks for that nice pic. I don't want to squash the pipe, as i may want to sell it on ebay anytime later. Which cap are you talking about. Do you mean the MB backplate or some capacitors on it. Did you actually fit XP-120 on your MSI board or what? Please give me more details on the work around if so. Does XP-120 block any of your memory DIMMs?

It's the bent black one that's the problem.
I see someone over at the MSI forums fit one, and he had awfull temps. (seen the same on amdmb.com forums as well)
It was only when someone posted some pics here (scroll down for the smaller ones as those are huge) that the problem became obvious.
thermalright say..

K8N Neo2 Platinum Not Compatible (caps mechanically obstruct pipe.)

I haven't fitted one myself, but a few have and by bending that cap they get good results.
It just depends on how you feel about bending that cap I suppose.

As this cooler has like a clip fit, you don't need anything leaning it to one side (like a cap) else it won't do the job well at all.

If it leans or is obstructed, it performs worse than a stock cooler according to those the didn't see offending cap.

When asked about the space for the ram, this is the reply from one of the guys who fitted one (damn forums that don't allow links to posts)

Well with my Corsair 3200XLPT theres between 1cm and 2cm of space between the ram and heatsink. It would be hard for me to take the ram out that are in slots 1 and 2 but once in there theres no problem.

[Str!P]

Just got my Neo2 from zipzoomfly yesterday. If i remember correctly, after removing HSF for AS5,... the chip rev was 0440A2.
So far, this board is rocking compared to my last ty Neo2 that I gave up for an even tier A8V.

Havn''t had too much play time, but currently running 3500+ NC @ 2805(11x267, 2.5-3-3-7-1t) prime stable with vapoLS, OCZ 3200 Plat REV2 @ 267Mhz. Can go up to 10.5x280 but won't prime.

Threw in my bh6 and DDR booster and got a nice 250Mhz 2-2-2-5-1t @ 3.5v 1:1, could run a couple benchies, but only primed @ 240, which is similar to other boards I've had it on. The OCZ TCCD(with "new" style heatspreaders, thinkin the new TCCD rev?), will do 240 2-2-2-5-1t w/ 3.4v from the booster, but only benchable. Booster was working GREAT up to 3.7v, which was the highest I tried

Kinda likin this board so far. Traded a 3500+ winny to a friend for a NC, not able to get it to work right with vapo on A8V. Now want the winny back! hearing these boards might work with them.

weird this OCZ platRev2 shows diff SPD's in CPUz. One is correct - OCZ PC3200PLATREV2. other is AMD PC4000?? . Could it be the board, or this RAM?? It is a Dual Channel kit??

Also, couldn't seem to OC my 6800Ultra as high with this board at first. Was getting "PAUSING" in 3d, for up to 10 sec, then "unpause". disabled fast writes(which lowers 3dmarks for me) and tweaked with AGP aperture seems to have fixed this. still a few mhz under my previous stable high(497/1323) with every other board the cards been in. hmmm, any suggestions??
BTW

3500+ NC
K8N Neo2 Plat
2x512MB OCZ Plat Rev2
PNY 6800Ultra
OCZ PowerStream 520w

[agenda2005]

Just got my Neo2 from zipzoomfly yesterday. If i remember correctly, after removing HSF for AS5,... the chip rev was 0440A2.
So far, this board is rocking compared to my last ty Neo2 that I gave up for an even tier A8V.

Havn''t had too much play time, but currently running 3500+ NC @ 2805(11x267, 2.5-3-3-7-1t) prime stable with vapoLS, OCZ 3200 Plat REV2 @ 267Mhz. Can go up to 10.5x280 but won't prime.

Threw in my bh6 and DDR booster and got a nice 250Mhz 2-2-2-5-1t @ 3.5v 1:1, could run a couple benchies, but only primed @ 240, which is similar to other boards I've had it on. The OCZ TCCD(with "new" style heatspreaders, thinkin the new TCCD rev?), will do 240 2-2-2-5-1t w/ 3.4v from the booster, but only benchable. Booster was working GREAT up to 3.7v, which was the highest I tried

Kinda likin this board so far. Traded a 3500+ winny to a friend for a NC, not able to get it to work right with vapo on A8V. Now want the winny back! hearing these boards might work with them.

weird this OCZ platRev2 shows diff SPD's in CPUz. One is correct - OCZ PC3200PLATREV2. other is AMD PC4000?? . Could it be the board, or this RAM?? It is a Dual Channel kit??

Also, couldn't seem to OC my 6800Ultra as high with this board at first. Was getting "PAUSING" in 3d, for up to 10 sec, then "unpause". disabled fast writes(which lowers 3dmarks for me) and tweaked with AGP aperture seems to have fixed this. still a few mhz under my previous stable high(497/1323) with every other board the cards been in. hmmm, any suggestions??
BTW

3500+ NC
K8N Neo2 Plat
2x512MB OCZ Plat Rev2
PNY 6800Ultra
OCZ PowerStream 520w

Can you post some pics of the MB and some result of your overclock?

[agenda2005]

It's the bent black one that's the problem.
I see someone over at the MSI forums fit one, and he had awfull temps. (seen the same on amdmb.com forums as well)
It was only when someone posted some pics here (scroll down for the smaller ones as those are huge) that the problem became obvious.
thermalright say..

K8N Neo2 Platinum Not Compatible (caps mechanically obstruct pipe.)

I haven't fitted one myself, but a few have and by bending that cap they get good results.
It just depends on how you feel about bending that cap I suppose.

As this cooler has like a clip fit, you don't need anything leaning it to one side (like a cap) else it won't do the job well at all.

If it leans or is obstructed, it performs worse than a stock cooler according to those the didn't see offending cap.

When asked about the space for the ram, this is the reply from one of the guys who fitted one (damn forums that don't allow links to posts)

Well with my Corsair 3200XLPT theres between 1cm and 2cm of space between the ram and heatsink. It would be hard for me to take the ram out that are in slots 1 and 2 but once in there theres no problem.

Thanks alot. The "cap" here means the capacitor? Right? No problem, I can work around that. It's not a problem.

[split]

Thanks alot. The "cap" here means the capacitor? Right? No problem, I can work around that. It's not a problem.

Yep

[pik-ard v1.1]

Havn''t had too much play time, but currently running 3500+ NC @ 2805(11x267, 2.5-3-3-7-1t) prime stable with vapoLS, OCZ 3200 Plat REV2 @ 267Mhz. Can go up to 10.5x280 but won't prime.

11x267 = 2937mhz, not 2805mhz.

2805 / 267 = 10.5, so im guessing your running at 10.5 x 267? your ram would be running at 255mhz, even though it says 267mhz. im guessing you havnt heard of the .5 multi bug?

simple explanation:
with every half multi, 8.5, 9.5, etc... the memory actually runs at a speed lesser then the HTT. you round your multi up, and divide the cpu speed, by that rounded number.

example:
cpu is at 10.5 x 267htt = 2805mhz.
10.5 rounded up is 11. er... i guess that wasnt really necessary.
2805 / 11 = 255.

so your memory would be running at 255mhz, NOT 267mhz.

can you give us a screenshot of the SPD timings in cpu-z? i'd like to see what your talking about.

for the 6800u, thats already an amaizingly high clock... while you say the fastwrite decreases your 3dmark score, i've seen it suggested that you disable it(on many motherboards), i suppose just for stabibility? i really dont know...

[Str!P]

11x267 = 2937mhz, not 2805mhz.

2805 / 267 = 10.5, so im guessing your running at 10.5 x 267?

Oops, yeah, that's what I meant. 10.5..

hmmm, i'll try runnin some benchies at 10x

[pik-ard v1.1]

the last two paragraphs of that reply are on different parts of your posts, could you please read, and reply to them? well, atleast just the screenshot of the SPD timings.

[LANjack]

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=241143

I ordered one of these last monday, and it is only a SN:K0408xxxxxx

Onepage, do you think these are good too? Or should I pry the NB fan off and have a look-see.

[LANjack]

Just got my Neo2 from zipzoomfly yesterday. If i remember correctly, after removing HSF for AS5,... the chip rev was 0440A2.
So far, this board is rocking compared to my last ty Neo2 that I gave up for an even tier A8V.

Havn''t had too much play time, but currently running 3500+ NC @ 2805(11x267, 2.5-3-3-7-1t) prime stable with vapoLS, OCZ 3200 Plat REV2 @ 267Mhz. Can go up to 10.5x280 but won't prime.

Threw in my bh6 and DDR booster and got a nice 250Mhz 2-2-2-5-1t @ 3.5v 1:1, could run a couple benchies, but only primed @ 240, which is similar to other boards I've had it on. The OCZ TCCD(with "new" style heatspreaders, thinkin the new TCCD rev?), will do 240 2-2-2-5-1t w/ 3.4v from the booster, but only benchable. Booster was working GREAT up to 3.7v, which was the highest I tried

Kinda likin this board so far. Traded a 3500+ winny to a friend for a NC, not able to get it to work right with vapo on A8V. Now want the winny back! hearing these boards might work with them.

weird this OCZ platRev2 shows diff SPD's in CPUz. One is correct - OCZ PC3200PLATREV2. other is AMD PC4000?? . Could it be the board, or this RAM?? It is a Dual Channel kit??

Also, couldn't seem to OC my 6800Ultra as high with this board at first. Was getting "PAUSING" in 3d, for up to 10 sec, then "unpause". disabled fast writes(which lowers 3dmarks for me) and tweaked with AGP aperture seems to have fixed this. still a few mhz under my previous stable high(497/1323) with every other board the cards been in. hmmm, any suggestions??
BTW

3500+ NC
K8N Neo2 Plat
2x512MB OCZ Plat Rev2
PNY 6800Ultra
OCZ PowerStream 520w

Hey hey, what's the first 5 digits of your SN, I'm trying to figure something out

[Pimp!]

just take it off, not that hard, well if its not setup that is

[MaxxxRacer]

one page, i just ordered my neo2. Do you think it will be this updated version. I got it over at monarch if it makes a diff.

[RebelsHaven]

@ onepage, how did you get the FX-55 to run at 3.2Gig at Vcore of 1.5V.....?

[Onepagebook]

@ onepage, how did you get the FX-55 to run at 3.2Gig at Vcore of 1.5V.....?

don't know..it's 0438 TPMW, and I am using VapoChill LS..

[RebelsHaven]

Hmmmm...... I have a 0439UPMW and 2.95Gig is the max SuperPI will run at with TCCD memory 6/3/3/2.5, Vdimm 2.85V, Vcore 1.7V.......

[Pimp!]

one page, i just ordered my neo2. Do you think it will be this updated version. I got it over at monarch if it makes a diff.

ordered mine from monarch too on saturday, will be out today, will find out on wednesday probably

[niaboc79]

Don't forgot that if the shop have a lot of stock you will receave an old motherboard!

I have a MSI of september who work great with bh5 but not with my ocz pc3200 EL rev 2, i can do 285 2.5 3 3 5 @ 2.7v but only with 2T, with 1T my max is 250

[xgman]

There was a recent thread where someomne hand picked through some 0440 taiwans and there was one 0442 korea and the Korea one still clocked higher than the 0440 taiwan, but that was only one sample. I also got a 0440 taiwan.

[mad mikee]

the gigabyte has lots of settings, but not worth anything if they all reset from 239->240 FSB

Better MSI + 3500 Winnie = mine:
'Okay' one + 3200 " = My beloved's

[Goofy666]

Is there any hope for a K0409xxxxxx-one? So far the best I got out of it with a 3500+ NC is 280x9 (HTT multi = 3x). It has a pair of G.Skill mem plugged in, so I don't think that my memory is the bottleneck...

[Onepagebook]

Is there any hope for a K0409xxxxxx-one? So far the best I got out of it with a 3500+ NC is 280x9 (HTT multi = 3x). It has a pair of G.Skill mem plugged in, so I don't think that my memory is the bottleneck...

Can't say 100% all of 0409xxx are bad...but some of them are really good!

[ojdr2001]

Onepagebook, which BIOS did you use for your best 3DMark score?

Thanks

[Goofy666]

Can't say 100% all of 0409xxx are bad...but some of them are really good!

Ok, thx for the reply! I guess I'll have to buy me a Winchester then if I want to clock any further...

[Onepagebook]

Onepagebook, which BIOS did you use for your best 3DMark score?

Thanks

If I am right, it should be 1.3b6, but now I feel 1.37moded is the best
1.41 is the fix of those who have hard time to get the higher fsb.