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    Quote Originally Posted by Ubermann
    I use 300/8 all days at 2.5-4-3-7.
    Im still messing around, dont play any games yet.
    The crashes i get is from CPU thats not stable at 2.4 but i run it there anyway =)
    Gonna voltmod the ati today, should be fun.

    Have one 80's fan blowing over ram and have not removed the heatspreader, should i do that ?
    You better leave the heatspreaders on to keep warrenty.
    The spreaders seem to be attached a whole lot better than other brands, so they actually might work and dissipate the heat from the chips.

    Looks like you need a new CPU, most late 3000+ and 3200+ seem to reach 2,6-2,65GHz on air.
    1Mb chips seem to become rare.
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    MRKI its only bench stable so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ubermann
    MRKI its only bench stable so far.

    whats the highest ht you can run prime stable?
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    I'd say it's not the rule, but the exception this memory will run at 300FSB.
    My review at [M] used a 3.0C because it's PC3200 I was reviewing. If OCZ was absolutely sure every kit pf Platinum EL3200 would run at 300FSB then they would have named it DDR600 or Platinum EL4800 and tagged another $100 on the price tag. Know why they didn't name it EL4800? Because only "some" kits are going to reach those speeds. And while my 3.0C didn't get past 250FSB, it has ran at 265FSB with OCZ PC4200 Premiere.

    SO while I could have used a 2.4C for that review, I chose to use a 3.0C because I was testing PC3700 (DDR466) which is a 233FSB or 3495MHz system requirement (easy) and PC3200 (DDR400) which is a 200FSB or 3000MHz system requirement. The 2.4C is a great deal at $145, however; with Intel CPU's I think many would spend the extra $40 and get a processor running 600MHz faster. Next time I will make an effort to test the lower multiplier processor's which can run much higher buses, but I honestly believe in this case it was the memory holding me back, since I'd ran that chip at 3950MHz in the past. I believe it's irresponsible as a Reviewer to give the impression this memory will run at those speeds, and when people spend their hard earned cash they may not be able to clock past PC3200 speeds, I'm sure most kits will clock far beyond their rated speed, but my kit didn't exceed 250FSB or DDR500 speeds.
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    wow this thread is long

    I cant make sense out of it but since it was an ocz thread I had to try to look
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    If you have actually personaly experienced a problem with a OCZ product that was not solved quickly by our wonderful support staff I would like to know. Feel free to PM
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    Guys heat spreaders are real good as long as you actively cool the dimms. I have found cooling the spreaders keeps the IC's cooler than just removing the spreaders and blowing the same cool air on them.
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    so some 60mm vent over them wouldnt hurt ?
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    I'm having trouble getting even 250 out of my Rev2, lots of errors in memtest . Running 2-4-3-10, no idea what other settings I should try tweaking from what's available with my A8V .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedo
    I'm having trouble getting even 250 out of my Rev2, lots of errors in memtest . Running 2-4-3-10, no idea what other settings I should try tweaking from what's available with my A8V .
    You can't run that at CL2 man...try CL2.5

    I beat that is what your errors are coming from man. I am running 512x2 at 2.5-4-3-0 @ 250FSB. 2.5-3-3-0 is barely a difference so I run it at 4 for stability sake.

    I also mounted a 80mm Fan blowing down the DIMM slots and then travels over the rest of the board. Zip-ties are your friend
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedo
    I'm having trouble getting even 250 out of my Rev2, lots of errors in memtest . Running 2-4-3-10, no idea what other settings I should try tweaking from what's available with my A8V .

    OCZ makes some very high quality products, but we must remember if the label says "PC3200" it's sort of unfair to criticze OCZ for that. As I said though, I'd bet 4/5 kits will overclock beyond 250FSB, and many much further based on the quality of the IC's.

    With your A8V I'd try SPD, and don't push too much voltage into the I/O Buffers, it only produces more heat, and actually slows the memory.

    Messing with heatspreaders isn't going to do anything but violate the warranty. If you want your DDR to run cooler, then case-ventillation is essential. Not only for the memory, but for all the ancillary devices. When a case isn't properly ventilated, heat builds and everything is effected. The NorthBridge runs hotter, and in an Intel system this is where the MCH (Memory Controller Hub) is located.

    I would recommend running this memory on SPD. For Intel chipsets SPD seems to work best, and when you raise the FSB so too will the latencies change automatically. Platinum Rev.3 should run at 2-4-4-8 if it's the IC's I think under the heat-spreaders. SPD takes the guess work out of it. The highest I was able to hold tighter timmings was 230FSB and that produced some excellent 3DMark score, and high bandwidth at 2-3-3-6. Here's a good rule of thumb with Intel chipsets. Run the memory on SPD, unless your overclocking to 240FSB where I'd up the Voltage, and try 2-3-3-6. After this I revert back to SPD. The difference between CL-2.5 and CL-3 is nominal at 250FSB and above.
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    Cas2 was a typo, it's actually at 2.5 . SPD doesn't let me get past 215.. .

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    The heatspreader makes really good contact with the chips.
    The ADATA my brother have is more like a nice looking "cover" then a heatspreader, cuz those only make contact 1-2 mm on the top of the chips.
    Its like the heatspreader is way to large for the RAM inside..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedo
    Cas2 was a typo, it's actually at 2.5 . SPD doesn't let me get past 215.. .

    With A64 on-die MCH, it's critical the CPU is cooled correctly. Water would be best, but air is pushing it, unless it's great afetrmarket cooler. The Strock AMD cooler I got with my A64 3400 was absolutely the worst HSF ever made. Not only was the fan under powered, it had a thermistor on it. It wasn't a fan that should be running any slower then full-speed so thwe thermistor was a complete joker. For a $400 processor at that time it was a sin. Once I got in under water (so to speak) the chip opened up. My buddy is now beating my Butt with 30K 3DMark2001 scores at 2.5GHz, while I'm struggling to break 25K at 3.9GHz. I guess speed isn't everything/anything, something?

    I guess you have to really tweakl that BIOS, on the A8V
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus
    Ubermann,

    How did you get DRAM Drive Strength @ level 2 to boot?
    Mine refuses to boot with anything lower than level 3.

    I need to reset Cmos if i set anything lower than level 3.

    I just can't get it to run proper, it refuses to run stable over 265-270 no matter what settings, not even 3-4-3-10 with 2.9V

    I've been trying for hours on end to get 295 errorfree in memtest, i failed.
    I keep getting at least one error in test 6, tying to load windows result in a BSOD.

    You told me your RAM stayed cold, mine gets pretty hot with only 2.7V doing Prime.

    Also, setting everyting to auto, it defaults to 2-3-2-5 instead of 2-2-2-5.

    I'm 100% positive i have the rev.2

    I'm afraid i got a very nasty stick...
    ouch zeus those are the exact timmings of my default REv 1 EL Platinum edition ram

    i believe i have bad stick of this ram also they are rated 2 3 2 5 at 200 and i am at 201 and i can't run 2 3 2 5 or I have to reset cmos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquid3D
    With A64 on-die MCH, it's critical the CPU is cooled correctly. Water would be best, but air is pushing it, unless it's great afetrmarket cooler. The Strock AMD cooler I got with my A64 3400 was absolutely the worst HSF ever made. Not only was the fan under powered, it had a thermistor on it. It wasn't a fan that should be running any slower then full-speed so thwe thermistor was a complete joker. For a $400 processor at that time it was a sin. Once I got in under water (so to speak) the chip opened up. My buddy is now beating my Butt with 30K 3DMark2001 scores at 2.5GHz, while I'm struggling to break 25K at 3.9GHz. I guess speed isn't everything/anything, something?

    I guess you have to really tweakl that BIOS, on the A8V
    It's got a nice TTake XP120 on it atm, keeping it nice and cool . Considering phase change cooling it but i'm not really sure the board will help me along.. might have to get a 754 chip with a lanparty to play with instead . There are a lot of memory settings available on the A8V, and I don't know what half of them are or what changing them does. Not found a good thread of someone experimenting a lot with the settings to see how it affects everything and I don't have time to check it all out myself . I can run 245 1:1 at 2.5-4-3-10 but I was hoping for more really. Guess i'll have to spend more time playing when I have a chance..

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    One stick 512 doing 2-2-2-6 at 232FSB.
    Stable ? Dont think so =)
    Only for Pi and sandra, will test more.

    And some more pics at different timings.

    Got it PI stable at 5K in sandra, never been able to do that before.
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    Just numbers, but it took a whole damn week booting and messing with bios to get 5100 sandra.
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    Nice man!
    A whole week is a lot of time but the result is very nice!
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    Dont know why i spent one week swearing, i just had to do it =)
    Got the booster working again.
    The "pot" had lost contact, so i resoldered it and now it works just fine.
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    I know how it feels, sometimes you just have to prove something to yourself.

    Good to see you got the booster running again, how much volts did you give the RAM for this run?
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    3.3 volt
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    Your giving that Rev 2 3.3? That stuff must be really hot man.

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