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    A-Data = Gskill killer?

    I've ordered components to my new system:

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    The winchester is temp. for the FX... jst waiting for more cash . It will be aircooled when it arrives, going for a Lightspeed after newyear. Shouldn't the A-Data PC4800 be a potential GSkill killer? Just wondering if anyone here has good experience with it? I'll be posting results when I've tortured my rig later this week...

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    I've tried the Adata DDR600 2x512MB (single stick kit) and the result was not that great. They can barely run the rated speed in single channel but definitely not even DDR520 in dual channel mode. Meanwhile, GSkill 2x512MB is doing great on exactly the same system at DDR560 dual channel mode.

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    Welcome to XtremeSystems!

    It doesnt matter who's TCCD's you get currently as the modules will hit ~ 285FSB @ spd on average without heavy voltage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by H2OGun
    I've tried the Adata DDR600 2x512MB (single stick kit) and the result was not that great. They can barely run the rated speed in single channel but definitely not even DDR520 in dual channel mode. Meanwhile, GSkill 2x512MB is doing great on exactly the same system at DDR560 dual channel mode.
    what platform?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playful_Buffalo
    what platform?
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    ALL TCCD modules?! Are yields that good?
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    So far it seems so, they go very far on very little voltage.
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    Are they better than 3700 eb?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich
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    ALL TCCD modules?! Are yields that good?


    they do from 250 to 300fsb, but I see alot of them usually hit ddr533 speeds, this is 266fsb at 2.5-3-3-7 too. you could run 3-4-4-8 for even higher but youll gain nothing with such loose timings
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    so far i've come across 3 different brands of tccd. patriot xbl, gskill, and PQI. So far all of them have done DDR550@2.5-3-3-7 w/ 2.7v. however my patriot xbl seems to be the cheapest and better clocking of the three.

    i'll be picking up some corsair XL's and ocz plat rev2's hopefully soon. still looking for some golden sticks.
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    welcome to XtremeSystems fxfreak

    yepp, from what i heard theres not such a big difference between the different tccd brands, its more like there are good and not so good sticks from all brands

    the adata pc 4800 DDR600 was the first ddr600 tccd memory, so they probably have older tccd chips? i dont know, im just speculating...

    if i were you i would just get the cheapest tccd thats rated for a high speed

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    Ok. Anyone seen GENERIC Samsung with TCCD chips yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CompGeek
    The US is the only country that doesn't use [nuclear weapons] to terrorize other countries. The US is based on Christian values, unlike any other country in the world. Granted we are straying from our Christian heritage, but we still have a freedom aimed diplomatic stance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex08
    so far i've come across 3 different brands of tccd. patriot xbl, gskill, and PQI. So far all of them have done DDR550@2.5-3-3-7 w/ 2.7v. however my patriot xbl seems to be the cheapest and better clocking of the three.

    i'll be picking up some corsair XL's and ocz plat rev2's hopefully soon. still looking for some golden sticks.
    What was the highest you hit with the Patriot @ those timings?
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    sorry to ask here but i was planning to get some adata ddr600 if my 3500ebs not perform good on msi k8n & 3500+ 0.09. will there any problems if i try to run 300 1:1 with 2*512 adata ddr600


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    Quote Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich
    Ok. Anyone seen GENERIC Samsung with TCCD chips yet?
    Yup, had a pair that did 250 @ 2.5-3-3-7 2.7v (all I tested). Bought them 8 months back I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FUGGER
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    It doesnt matter who's TCCD's you get currently as the modules will hit ~ 285FSB @ spd on average without heavy voltage.
    not entirely true, try getting Corsair XMS3200XL or Kingston PC3200 UL to even 270mhz!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WiCKeD
    What was the highest you hit with the Patriot @ those timings?
    290 or ddr580 memtest stable
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    Quote Originally Posted by eva2000
    not entirely true, try getting Corsair XMS3200XL or Kingston PC3200 UL to even 270mhz!
    the XMS i have is hitting 300 on each 512 stick..

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    i doubt you'll get anywhere near 300 with 512 mb sticks anyhow, so just buy the cheapest tccd available, not like you'll be braking any records with 2x512mb sticks

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.Rabbit
    i doubt you'll get anywhere near 300 with 512 mb sticks anyhow, so just buy the cheapest tccd available, not like you'll be braking any records with 2x512mb sticks
    Is the fact that both of these sticks I got do 300 lucky? They're both 512 modules.. XMS LL pro with the led's.. I don't want to remove the heatspreaders because I'm not so sure how they're wired (they show activity.. so they might be soldered on somehow? ehhh)

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    I've been using the adata ddr500 and I have been satisfied with them, running att 285fsb, so I think the ddr600 will hit atleast ddr550 and ddr600 with alittle more voltage

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    Quote Originally Posted by chunkylover77
    Are they better than 3700 eb?
    i would have to see side by side but EB's been known to do 270~280 3-2-2-x with some voltage reasonably consistantly and you would need to get out to 290 or more to match the bandwidth that 275 3-2-2-x.

    If you cant give it voltage, then im guess'n 285 2.5-3-3-7 is going to be faster than 250 3-2-2-8 if your in the minority that can get that on 2.8vdimm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex08
    290 or ddr580 memtest stable
    What voltage at that speed and those timings?

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    Where did you get them? All local retailers like ncix, atic have only TCCC chips which suck a lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by CompGeek
    The US is the only country that doesn't use [nuclear weapons] to terrorize other countries. The US is based on Christian values, unlike any other country in the world. Granted we are straying from our Christian heritage, but we still have a freedom aimed diplomatic stance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mongoose420
    i would have to see side by side but EB's been known to do 270~280 3-2-2-x with some voltage reasonably consistantly and you would need to get out to 290 or more to match the bandwidth that 275 3-2-2-x.

    If you cant give it voltage, then im guess'n 285 2.5-3-3-7 is going to be faster than 250 3-2-2-8 if your in the minority that can get that on 2.8vdimm.
    how many Volts we talkin about? 3.0V?

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