http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjMz
thx for letting me know kanavit
interesting results!
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http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjMz
thx for letting me know kanavit
interesting results!
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hehe, no prob Saaya! thx for posting new thread. Macci should go get SLI 6800 ultra and use coolbits to get 10k on air LOLOLOL!!
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6600GT
doom3 85% boost
halo 57% boost
2k5 78% boost
6800GT
doom3 73% boost
halo 45% boost
2k5 80% boost
6800Ultra
doom3 69% boost
halo 38% boost
2k5 78% boost
sounds like the cpu power is limiting the high end cards here, no?
It will be interesting what those top benches will do to cool them.. built another dual cascade for the secund card?![]()
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10K is a pancake now, 15K is more like it
2k5 is very little cpu dependant as the percantage results i posted show. it almost constantly scales with around 75% compared to a single solution. that means a single card that pulls 5600 would pull 10000 if you add another card in sli that is clocked at the same speed.
so if you have a system with a 6800 card that scores 8500 im sure you would get 15K if you add another card with the same clockspeeds to the system.
and with nf4 we hopefully get some small performence boosts, 90nm a64s are also slightly faster at the same clockspeed compared to their 130nm parts and oc slightly higher, and the fx55 on 130nm seems to also oc a little higher than the fx53. so 15K is def the next thing everybody will be looking for![]()
here, shows pretty nicely how cpu dependant doom3 is and how gpu dependant 2005 is. looks like 2005 is indeed 99% gpu dependant
or am i wrong?
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Man I wish I had the 1000$ to afford me up 2 6800GT PCI-e and a PCI-e motherboard when they come out if those numbers are real its![]()
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This is great and all, but is it the best nVidia can do to truely compete with ATI.....slap two cards together? I wanna see these numbers with two XT's running together and I need GF4Ti to predict the results![]()
That's an interesting point. Will there be enough clearance between the two cards to allow bigger heatsinks or GPU direct die?Originally Posted by Arnar
"sounds like the cpu power is limiting the high end cards here, no?"
big time:
doom3 69% boost
halo 38% boost
double the power for such a small boost in halo, doom3 is the most gpu intensive game so far so the boost is bigger but other games, including halo youll get around a third more fps for double the gpu power. Diminishing returns is why I am sticking with my ti4200 and softmodded 9500np, they perform great because of my cpu power. A faster card isnt gonna gain me a whole lot more, id rather save my $ as for 3dmark 2003, 2005 its not reprensative of games because like I said, its too ignorant of my cpu. I could stick a 1GHz cpu and get over 5k in 2005 but games would be unplayable with this little cpu power to hadle the physics
3000+ Venice 240x9=2.16GHz(ondie controller limit) 2x512mb patriot tccd ram
9700pro at 325/310 runs all games buttery smooth!![]()
9700(8 pipe softmod, 128m) at 410/325 23821 at 325/310 21287 at 275/270 19159
9500(4 pipes, 128m) at 420/330 18454 at 275/270 13319
9500(8 pipe softmod, 64m) at 390/310 19201 at 275/270 16052
9500(4 pipes, 64m) at 400/310 16215 at 275/270 12560
3dmark scores with Ti4200 and Ti4800se
Ti4200 at 340/730 19558 at 300/650 18032 at 275/550 16494 at 250/500 15295
3dmark scores with older gpus
Ti500 at 275/620 14588 Ti200 at 260/540 13557 MX440 at 380/680 11551
its very neat..but i doubt u can put a cooling on both cards..and as they are work is evenly distributed, even if one card is clocked high, it will only match the speed of the lower clocked card...im hoping im correct?
and i thought OCing was getting expensive when vid cards started costing $500
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oh. nvidia, think of the poor students![]()
can you see the light? is it shining too bright? can you see the light at the end of the tunnel, i know i do, i know its true.
VERY few people can afford *two* $500 cards then youd need to watercool em or take your rig outside one winter morning. cascade or phase change wont fit the 2nd card
3000+ Venice 240x9=2.16GHz(ondie controller limit) 2x512mb patriot tccd ram
9700pro at 325/310 runs all games buttery smooth!![]()
9700(8 pipe softmod, 128m) at 410/325 23821 at 325/310 21287 at 275/270 19159
9500(4 pipes, 128m) at 420/330 18454 at 275/270 13319
9500(8 pipe softmod, 64m) at 390/310 19201 at 275/270 16052
9500(4 pipes, 64m) at 400/310 16215 at 275/270 12560
3dmark scores with Ti4200 and Ti4800se
Ti4200 at 340/730 19558 at 300/650 18032 at 275/550 16494 at 250/500 15295
3dmark scores with older gpus
Ti500 at 275/620 14588 Ti200 at 260/540 13557 MX440 at 380/680 11551
at least sli scores now make sense but i still thikn if they dont oc then i dont want them (and i will buy a fx cpu lol)
When i'm being paid i always do my job through.
we dont know how sli works yet, but the chances are high that there will be no problem with overclocking at all as long as both cards are running at the same speed.Originally Posted by HawainPanda
and if the balancin between both cards works very efficient then it should even work with one card clocked higher than the other, but im not sure about this, nvidia themselves said that people should get two cards of the same brand to run them in sli, when asked why they said because different manufacturers clock their cards slightly different. so it sounds like both cards need to be clocked at the same speed to not cause any problems.
Assuming nobody will use turnwater when nforce4 is out then ATI's and Intels turn at the top in 05 will be a very short affair.
Most expensive looks like the 6800U and FX55 option but I think a better system for gaming and some benching would be to spend on two 6800GT's ( assuming they do overclock in this setup ) and an AMD 4000+. The saved money can be spent on trying to get two really good sticks of RAM and lots of Kleenex for al lthe exciting times
Regards
Andy
no point getting 4000+ when the fx is like the same price or you can get a winchester for less than $200 and the loss of cache will cost you all of 20 points in 3dmark 2005
3000+ Venice 240x9=2.16GHz(ondie controller limit) 2x512mb patriot tccd ram
9700pro at 325/310 runs all games buttery smooth!![]()
9700(8 pipe softmod, 128m) at 410/325 23821 at 325/310 21287 at 275/270 19159
9500(4 pipes, 128m) at 420/330 18454 at 275/270 13319
9500(8 pipe softmod, 64m) at 390/310 19201 at 275/270 16052
9500(4 pipes, 64m) at 400/310 16215 at 275/270 12560
3dmark scores with Ti4200 and Ti4800se
Ti4200 at 340/730 19558 at 300/650 18032 at 275/550 16494 at 250/500 15295
3dmark scores with older gpus
Ti500 at 275/620 14588 Ti200 at 260/540 13557 MX440 at 380/680 11551
Isn't Macci sponsored by ATi? They use him for advertising and he was one of the first with an XT PE.Originally Posted by Kanavit
Time to change sides, I'd say![]()
I really don't think money is a problem for people with 2 cascades and all the latest hardware. It's even cost saving as you can achieve better scores without all this fancy cooling.Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
Last edited by HaLDoL; 10-13-2004 at 04:35 AM.
Any ideas of how to cool both cards with limited space like that? That would really steer me away from getting one. Also the 1st one would not get good air flow just because the other card is right in front of it. I'm impressed by the results stock though.
E8400 @ 3600mhz
4870 @ 790/1100
2x2GB DDR2
Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
what about a PCI-e riser card? and mod the sli bridge to be longer?
Whats that? I take it from the name, it just makes the card higher, do they make those though? I can't see a practical use other than what were wanting it for.
E8400 @ 3600mhz
4870 @ 790/1100
2x2GB DDR2
Damn nice results !
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they couldnt make the bridge longer because then theyd need special mobo's with further apart slots. (maybe a manufacturer will hear our cry)
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