After a long needed hibernation

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These Ryzen 3000 cpus especially I think 3800X with the single offset chipset and higher TDP definitely need better than average cooling to have any chance of a decent overclock. Where your average AIO like an H100i could get you decent results on previous CPUs (mine would.keep an i7 3970X @4.4Ghz comfortable), they just don't cut it with Ryzen 3000.

I have a liquid freezer II 280mm on my 3800x. The heat from rad is non existent yet the chip still hits 84c ( prime 95 ). That tells me that the die is not transferring the heat well to IHS into water block. I don't think it's an interface issue either as it's been proven that delidding gains almost nothing. I just think it's a surface area issue. The die is small its a concentrated amount of heat on a very small portion of IHS. A larger die would transfer heat better. With the 3900x however the heat transfers more and the exhaust out of radiator is warm. It's got double the dies pumping heat into IHS.

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I have a liquid freezer II 280mm on my 3800x. The heat from rad is non existent yet the chip still hits 84c ( prime 95 ). That tells me that the die is not transferring the heat well to IHS into water block. I don't think it's an interface issue either as it's been proven that delidding gains almost nothing. I just think it's a surface area issue. The die is small its a concentrated amount of heat on a very small portion of IHS. A larger die would transfer heat better. With the 3900x however the heat transfers more and the exhaust out of radiator is warm. It's got double the dies pumping heat into IHS.

Yeah very tiny, but it also feels like they did low leak silicon for huge performance per watt gains here, what do you think?
Then I'm reminded of the clocks ... :-/

Oh I have a question is Ryzen master better than the old amd over drive?

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Yeah very tiny, but it also feels like they did low leak silicon for huge performance per watt gains here, what do you think?
Then I'm reminded of the clocks ... :-/

Oh I have a question is Ryzen master better than the old amd over drive?

I only personally use it to verify settings are being applied as it is the "most accurate" but not for overclocking. All it does is reboot pc and apply bios settings for you anyway.

I mean obviously they are catering to consumer before ocer but the reality is they are building for server then trickling that down to desktop. In server power consumption = money. I still don't think they have the financial capital that intel has to "cater" products to various segments of the industry where as for the most part intels server chips are unique to server and there desktop are unique to desktop and laptop is unique to laptop.

AMD built enough capital to do server and laptop unique implementations and I think what we are getting is slightly revised for desktop glass.