Computex 2019 - AMD teased new Ryzens 3. gen (launch 7.7.2019)

[AliG]

Well, amd showed some game numbers vs 2700x.
So , i took those percentage gains, and applied them to 2700X scores in the same games vs intel counterparts.
It seems ryzen 3000 will get around 8600K/8700K performance. So, good.But still worse than the 9700/9900K.
Which was not that surprising, if they would stomp intel in games, they would show that .They lack the gigahurtzes for that
Still, im getting back into the warm and fuzzy amd fold this year with a 3900X or a new threadripper if they release it.Its gonna be a solid upgrade from 5960x.

There's a massive amount of L3 cache on these chips. I would wait to see how the overclocking tests look - there's a good chance the gaming performance will be very competitive.

[vario]

There's a massive amount of L3 cache on these chips. I would wait to see how the overclocking tests look - there's a good chance the gaming performance will be very competitive.

You have to remember, they dont have 32MB L3, they have 2x16MB L3, and thats not the same, CCX`s are still 4 core ones, whenever a thread migrates from a core on CCX 1 to a core on CCX 2 l3 has to be filled again.
But yes, they are 2x bigger.But you have to understand that they are not having better latency, and thats why intels are fast(well that and clocks)

[AliG]

You have to remember, they dont have 32MB L3, they have 2x16MB L3, and thats not the same, CCX`s are still 4 core ones, whenever a thread migrates from a core on CCX 1 to a core on CCX 2 l3 has to be filled again.
But yes, they are 2x bigger.But you have to understand that they are not having better latency, and thats why intels are fast(well that and clocks)

Gotta remember games are 4 threads at most usually; I'll take a 30% improvement in cache in those cases (as compared to 12 Mb on 9700k). Yes, latency is slower than Intel. But in general the cost of cache misses is much higher than the read time. As long as the cache management is good I'll bet a notable portion of the IPC improvement came from double the size.