Dell`s 5K Monitor Incoming!

[Kallenator]

What the hell is wrong with the (marketing)people who decide which resolutions to start manufacture and sell?

4k is a bit*h on current technology, all the way from scaling issues to performance limitations. And they decide: "4k? How about 5k? We gonna sell shi**y TN to every useful idiot out there, at a premium!"

I don't have any first hand experience with 4k, but I adore the idea of leaving "FullHD" for something more crisp, but ffs guys, display manufacturers needs to get their priories straight. Now that we have a "new" and very nice resolution on our horizon we need DECENT PANELS, sort that out, THEN increase resolution. Not the other way around...

[SinOfLiberty]

What the hell is wrong with the (marketing)people who decide which resolutions to start manufacture and sell?

4k is a bit*h on current technology, all the way from scaling issues to performance limitations. And they decide: "4k? How about 5k? We gonna sell shi**y TN to every useful idiot out there, at a premium!"

I don't have any first hand experience with 4k, but I adore the idea of leaving "FullHD" for something more crisp, but ffs guys, display manufacturers needs to get their priories straight. Now that we have a "new" and very nice resolution on our horizon we need DECENT PANELS, sort that out, THEN increase resolution. Not the other way around...

This is not TN panel. It is an ips that is orientated at devs in the first place-says AnT.

4K is a bit*h on an almost 4 years OLD tech that will be replaced on 18th of this months.

[AliG]

What the hell is wrong with the (marketing)people who decide which resolutions to start manufacture and sell?

4k is a bit*h on current technology, all the way from scaling issues to performance limitations. And they decide: "4k? How about 5k? We gonna sell shi**y TN to every useful idiot out there, at a premium!"

I don't have any first hand experience with 4k, but I adore the idea of leaving "FullHD" for something more crisp, but ffs guys, display manufacturers needs to get their priories straight. Now that we have a "new" and very nice resolution on our horizon we need DECENT PANELS, sort that out, THEN increase resolution. Not the other way around...

Actually I think 5k makes more sense than 4k. 4k seemed kinda arbitrary to me; sure it maintained the same aspect ratio but the pixel count seemed kinda arbitrary to me.

5k is literally quadruple of 1440p, so I do understand why they went that route.

[zalbard]

5k is literally quadruple of 1440p, so I do understand why they went that route.

Agreed. It will be a very nice screen.

I want some higher-contrast screens, though. Give me 4K A-MVA!

[Kallenator]

This is not TN panel. It is an ips that is orientated at devs in the first place-says AnT.

4K is a bit*h on an almost 4 years OLD tech that will be replaced on 18th of this months.

Well that's decent at least, but even IPS does not really cut it anymore, I agree that these still look good, but I would quite enjoy some improvements to black level and refresh rate.
Which is why the Eizo Foris was an excellent tribute, and I find it a shame that nothing has been iterated of that by others.

4k does not work well on current and doubtfully on next generation tech. Unless of course you run Sli/CF or drop the settings far down, bit pricey though? And surely I cannot be alone in enjoying stable 60fps<?
(If we are talking some kind of upscaling however, then I would agree whole heartedly, it seems to work quite well.)

It will be interesting when next gen shows its face, and I hope they will surprise on this specific matter, but I am not holding my breath while I keep my fingers crossed.

Actually I think 5k makes more sense than 4k. 4k seemed kinda arbitrary to me; sure it maintained the same aspect ratio but the pixel count seemed kinda arbitrary to me.

5k is literally quadruple of 1440p, so I do understand why they went that route.

It's a good point you are making, but 4k makes sense because of entertainment though, people will probably find it normal to watch and create their own content in 4k in the near future.
Seems like a larger market to me(but I guess you could still call it a niche), and that usually doesn't hurt the price. But it does not equal quality, thats for sure...

Agreed. It will be a very nice screen.

I want some higher-contrast screens, though. Give me 4K A-MVA!

A-MVA, yes please =)

[SinOfLiberty]

Well that's decent at least, but even IPS does not really cut it anymore, I agree that these still look good, but I would quite enjoy some improvements to black level and refresh rate.
Which is why the Eizo Foris was an excellent tribute, and I find it a shame that nothing has been iterated of that by others It will be interesting when next gen shows its face, and I hope they will surprise on this specific matter, but I am not holding my breath while I keep my fingers crossed.

Downsampling is close to the hardware requirement to a native res monitor.

Next gen lacking power at 4K? Based off of what? Rumor sites? 2 Titan Blacks can run 4K @40FPS in a lot of games with MXAA disabled.

New cards will be here on 18th, we are all ready>

[Kallenator]

Downsampling is close to the hardware requirement to a native res monitor.

Next gen lacking power at 4K? Based off of what? Rumor sites? 2 Titan Blacks can run 4K @40FPS in a lot of games with MXAA disabled.

New cards will be here on 18th, we are all ready>

Based on nothing but history and common sense, next generation usually brings in ~20% improvement over current, or? I don't assume to speak true true... merely my best guess.

Two Titan Blacks is an insane configuration, one is expensive enough. And according to you it struggles with keeping a stable 60fps in most games, I do assume that this is on "Very High Quality" so I guess you can improve the framerate quite a bit, to make it somewhat acceptable across the board.
This is far from reasonable or even attainable for no more than a tiny part of the community, even on this Forum. Not that it matters on case of the argument.

So no, I don't agree that current gen cut's it, nor do I think next will improve enough for it to become reasonably attainable. Which was the basis of my initial itch.

[SinOfLiberty]

Based on nothing but history and common sense, next generation usually brings in ~20% improvement over current, or? I don't assume to speak true true... merely my best guess.

Two Titan Blacks is an insane configuration, one is expensive enough. And according to you it struggles with keeping a stable 60fps in most games, I do assume that this is on "Very High Quality" so I guess you can improve the framerate quite a bit, to make it somewhat acceptable across the board.
This is far from reasonable or even attainable for no more than a tiny part of the community, even on this Forum. Not that it matters on case of the argument.

So no, I don't agree that current gen cut's it, nor do I think next will improve enough for it to become reasonably attainable. Which was the basis of my initial itch.

2 780s 6GB will do fine as well...

Also, next gen gpu launches? You clearly have not been around for.. gtx 8800x, gtx 280x...

GTX 780 Ti cant play all games at 60fps 1080P... Let alone gtx 770...

[Kallenator]

2 780s 6GB will do fine as well...

Also, next gen gpu launches? You clearly have not been around for.. gtx 8800x, gtx 280x...

GTX 780 Ti cant play all games at 60fps 1080P... Let alone gtx 770...

I would agree, at low settings a pair of 780's will probably do just fine. Very similar to the titans, at a more reasonable price.

You are absolutely right about some GPU launches being incredibly successful, I remember the 8800GTX, I had one =)
And that just might happen again, but it's less likely than a ~20% improvement.

Yep, and that is skirting my point. Thanks for acknowledging that.