Asus GTX Titan Black Edition listing spotted

[PedantOne]

New info: launch date is not 18th of february, but later, next month!

[KiSUAN]

18 of February was always only 750 (512 cuda cores) and 750Ti (640 Cuda Cores)...

[umvue]

I am certain I will buy a Titan Black for doing my compute work. I have been waiting for it for ages.

[iMacmatician]

18 of February was always only 750 (512 cuda cores) and 750Ti (640 Cuda Cores)...

So they're not 768 and 960 as rumors have claimed?

640/512 = 960/768 = 1.25 so those numbers would still imply 5 and 4 (or a multiple of such) SMXs, each with 128 (or a divisor of) CCs/SMX.

[PedantOne]

I am certain I will buy a Titan Black for doing my compute work. I have been waiting for it for ages.

launch is third week of March

[KiSUAN]

So they're not 768 and 960 as rumors have claimed?

640/512 = 960/768 = 1.25 so those numbers would still imply 5 and 4 (or a multiple of such) SMXs, each with 128 (or a divisor of) CCs/SMX.

Nope, if 750Ti had 960 it would be replacing the GTX660, they are replacing the GTX 650Ti to compete better with the 260 and 260x which, at least where I work, are selling like hot cakes...

[PedantOne]

There are two version of 750 Ti, one has 960 CUDAs
And about this "maxwell 0.5", the most important info is about power consumption, 750 Ti has performance above GTX 650 Ti, but without power connector, and with significantly lower power consumption.

[iMacmatician]

There are two version of 750 Ti, one has 960 CUDAs

So is one a Maxwell part and another a Kepler part?

Also, when would the 880 and 870 be coming out?

[PedantOne]

kepler

[[XC] Synthetickiller]

Official - no, but it's reasonable to assume that it'll happen within the next 6 months.
Blowing $1000 on a video card only to watch it become obsolete in less than half a year doesn't make much sense to me...

That's why you watch forums / craigslist until you find someone selling it for a price you're comfortable with.

When the 700 series was coming out, I snagged a GTX 690 for $650 & added a water block. Still high, but much cheaper than two 680s + 2 blocks. I think that's where the deal w/ these cards lie; Cheaper on the used market if you compare the cost of water blocks thrown in & the ITX market.

As for people who don't mind dropping $1400, by all means. I'd like to be in that position that $1400 is no biggie. I'd like to be in those shoes, lol!

[zalbard]

That's why you watch forums / craigslist until you find someone selling it for a price you're comfortable with.

When the 700 series was coming out, I snagged a GTX 690 for $650 & added a water block. Still high, but much cheaper than two 680s + 2 blocks. I think that's where the deal w/ these cards lie; Cheaper on the used market if you compare the cost of water blocks thrown in & the ITX market.

That's a strategy I can agree with!

[AliG]

As for people who don't mind dropping $1400, by all means. I'd like to be in that position that $1400 is no biggie. I'd like to be in those shoes, lol!

You need to contact Faye Turner. According to "her" dozens of posts on the ESPN forums she makes $10k a month just by working at home lol

[NKrader]

When the 700 series was coming out, I snagged a GTX 690 for $650 & added a water block. Still high, but much cheaper than two 680s + 2 blocks. I think that's where the deal w/ these cards lie; Cheaper on the used market if you compare the cost of water blocks thrown in & the ITX market.

and my silverstone ft03, i can really only fit the single gpu into it.

[Andrew LB]

DP, not SP.

The higher end Maxwell cards will have much higher SP performance. It's the lower end cards that are crippled.

[/quote]Next card with significantly more DP performance is 1.5 years away if I had to guess. [/quote]

where are you getting this information? Because it doesn't mesh with any of the facts. like how TSMC has moved from 20nm risk production to volume production about 3 weeks ago and are way ahead of schedule.

Titan came 2013 in February, so Maxwell Titan should arrive in 2015.

no way on earth is nVidia going to release a few low end maxwell cards next month and then wait till next year to bring out the big cards. they've never spaced out their cards even remotely that far apart, and i highly doubt they'll start doing it now.

[PedantOne]

these :maxwell: cards are not real maxwell, but only Kepler refreshed, real maxwell will be launched this summer, and BIG maxwell maybe next january!

[kromosto]

these :maxwell: cards are not real maxwell, but only Kepler refreshed, real maxwell will be launched this summer, and BIG maxwell maybe next january!

while everybody thinks the opposite i think it is better for everybody that things gets a little slower so nice to hear this.

[iMacmatician]

these :maxwell: cards are not real maxwell, but only Kepler refreshed

What's the difference? If it's a Kepler refresh wouldn't it be a Kepler part instead of a Maxwell part? (I don't seem to recall, say, GK104 being called a GF114 refresh, for instance.)

[Tim]

these :maxwell: cards are not real maxwell, but only Kepler refreshed, real maxwell will be launched this summer, and BIG maxwell maybe next january!

So what happened to this then?

28nm Maxwell VGA samples was made in summer, maxwell replacement of GTX 770 will be here 01/14

in february will be available New succesor of GK104 on desktop and some mobile SKUs too.

The only thing I know/knew is that most of the information available to insiders last year was that a successor of GK104 was going to be launched in February with high end performance. And now it's summer? Or will something else still come this quarter?

[Dimitriman]

So what happened to this then?

The only thing I know/knew is that most of the information available to insiders last year was that a successor of GK104 was going to be launched in February with high end performance. And now it's summer? Or will something else still come this quarter?

I would say: because he is guessing without any facts behind those statements...

[Tim]

I would say: because he is guessing without any facts behind those statements...

I know that information did not originate from him but from trusted sources. There was supposed to be a high performance 104 maxwell variant launched Q1, Feb was likely. Since he probably has access to one or more sources, I thought maybe he can shed some light on this apparent change.

[kromosto]

imo it is because of amd 290x and especially 290's price performance.

[Tim]

imo it is because of amd 290x and especially 290's price performance.

Could be, I think that information surfaced around the 290x launch date, but I would of imagined nvidia knew about the 290x performance well before launch.

[iMacmatician]

Yeah, PedantOne wasn't the only one claiming a GK104 successor for Q1 2014.

If we trust SemiAccurate's articles and their tags, then from what I've gathered from the stuff that isn't restricted to subscribers, my guess is that some sort of "GM104" was planned for release at some point in time but was then canceled some time between then and now. (PedantOne and others feel free to comment on my guess.)

GM107 (or at least stuff consistent with that type of part) has been in the rumor spotlight in the last few weeks but that name has been floating around since last year.

[kromosto]

Could be, I think that information surfaced around the 290x launch date, but I would of imagined nvidia knew about the 290x performance well before launch.

performance yes they knew, not exactly but close, price i guess they knew it close enough too but what they couldn't calculate was impact on market. also mantle gets noticeable attention too.

[tajoh111]

performance yes they knew, not exactly but close, price i guess they knew it close enough too but what they couldn't calculate was impact on market. also mantle gets noticeable attention too.

They likely got blindsided by the mining market more than anything.

The mining market has opened up an entirely new market for the high end that was not earlier available. People who didn't game much, started to buy AMD super high end and as a result, not nearly enough cards were made.

If AMD knew this mining thing was going to happen, they would have likely priced their cards 100 dollars higher to reap the benefits instead of retailers. Even at 100 dollars higher, the r290 is a good card. A r290x at 650, not so much but it would still sell with miners scooping up supplies.

The black edition seems like such a strange move. Its coming out so late and cost so much like the titan. Generally these Titan cards seem like Nvidia way of giving themselves an excuse to rape earlier adopters and sell super cut downs at high prices. The original titan should of always been a full chip with the gtx 780 having atleast one more smx of shaders.

A 650 dollar card, should never have 20 percent of its shaders cut off. That's ridiculous.

I don't think with this B revision, Nvidia even has to cut off any shaders. Some of the gtx 780 ti's being shipped to consumers have an asics qualities in the 50's.

I think we are going to sell a significant drop in Nvidia's 4th quarter results and I expect the stock to fall as a result.