Quote Originally Posted by LordEC911 View Post
So we go from 290x is better than Titan, fact.
To "we can't compare 290x to Titan because GTX780 is basically Titan for cheap."
To "even footing 290x doesn't beat Titan."

Make up your mind and please stop shifting the goalposts.


Fermi doesn't pull only 235w. It can pull over 300w in gaming situations.

290x isn't competing against a card that has a max power consumption of 180w.
GTX480 was consistently pulling ~100w more in gaming situations to give ~10% more performance.
290x is using ~30-40w more to beat the competition by ~15% on average.
I already told you sites that showed they 290x can pull more than as much as a gtx 480 in the same scenarios.

290x is a complex product because it tries to pull two modes at once. One where it is a hair slower than titan quiet mode.

And a second mode that it where it is a bit faster than a gtx titan. It's the nature of the beast. No other cards have this quiet mode.

10 percent average maybe against a a gtx 780. Not 15 percent more on average unless maybe when we turn on uber mode.

The gtx 780 is so neutered and underclocked that it might as well be a small chip like the 5870. Its Nvidia attempt to sell massively docked gk110 and do no binning. If we consider how mangled it is and how much AMD is pushing their own chip(also it being fully enabled), it should be no surprise it gets beat. Particularly with more and more gaming evolved titles being used.

Fermi might have not shown its gaming worth so much in games for it size, but it more than made up for it for its primary purpose, the professional market.

It was the best professional compute card ever at the time. It was literally a made trash of anything at the time. It spanked AMD professional cards at the time being often twice as fast and sometimes 4 times as fast. Even today, AMD w9000 cards have a hard time competing against it and this was against a cut down chip with very low clocks.(hothardware and tomshardware review). So even those it had high power consumption, it justified it with its other capabilities that are yet to be seen on 290x.