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    Quote Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS View Post
    If you have any more support queries please contact your local ASUS office. I only cover NA users - I am not global support.
    Sorry to bother you then but my local Asus office can only give out marketing phrases, not support

    I am asking you because there is a high probability you know this stuff, Z87 boards and their settings are so new that nobody has any experience with it yet.

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    There is a QVL for SSDs yes.
    Nice, where can I see it?

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    1) Why do you want to do this?
    Because I use Windows 7 in UEFI mode and Windows 7 does not use secure boot? Maybe it does not matter?

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    Which terms specifically?
    - Dynamic Storage Accelerator (mentions power states but not what and how it does)
    - Two other new Intel tech (can't remember names now, disabled by default)
    - Asus Multicore enhancement
    - Everything in DIGI+ power control
    - Everything in CPU power management
    - HW Fast boot

    A lot of options have useless help in the form of "XYZ -- Controls XYZ, values can be Enabled or Disabled, default is Enabled" without telling you what is it for or at least what each setting does when set to Enalbed or Disabled.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS View Post
    EZ flash prompts twice before flashing. It's enough.
    Umm... no, it just asked if I want to read the file and when I said yes it worked for a while then said "flashing completed successfully". I am pretty tired at this point but I think I would notice the other prompt.

    Finally, why it is not possible to disable Intel AMT / MEI?
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    Quote Originally Posted by audiofreak View Post
    Nice, where can I see it?



    Because I use Windows 7 in UEFI mode and Windows 7 does not use secure boot? Maybe it does not matter?



    - Dynamic Storage Accelerator (mentions power states but not what and how it does)
    - Two other new Intel tech (can't remember names now, disabled by default)
    - Asus Multicore enhancement
    - Everything in DIGI+ power control
    - Everything in CPU power management
    - HW Fast boot

    A lot of options have useless help in the form of "XYZ -- Controls XYZ, values can be Enabled or Disabled, default is Enabled" without telling you what is it for or at least what each setting does when set to Enalbed or Disabled.



    Umm... no, it just asked if I want to read the file and when I said yes it worked for a while then said "flashing completed successfully". I am pretty tired at this point but I think I would notice the other prompt.

    Finally, why it is not possible to disable Intel AMT / MEI?

    1 On the ASUS support page. If not up now they will be soon.

    2 Dont think it matters

    3. Some C-States have impact on SATA performance.
    Multcore enhance clocks all cores at turbo frequency instead of Intel default turbo policy.
    Go to ROG forums and read my OC guides for DIGI+ section (older guides have the info). You don't need to adjust though, leave at auto.

    For everything in CPU Management Read up on C-State tech (power gating of various sections of CPU). The rest is pretty easy to work out if you read the name. And you dont really need to change anything in there. Anything disabled or enabled is done so either for power saving, performance or thermal reasons.

    HW FAST BOOT enables UEFI fast boot feature with compatible GPUs etc to reduce BOOT times.


    MEI is needed by the platform for various things from POST routines to access for temperature and on the fly changes. Can't be "disabled", would not work.


    My flashing never does what your does. You might have pressed enter twice. And you wanted to flash right? Otherwise why were you even in the EZ flash section? I always get prompted to read the file and then to update UEFI. That's more than enough in my book. No need for any more than that so I won't be suggesting any changes to the process.



    Rest of your questions please direct at your local support.
    Last edited by Raja@ASUS; 06-07-2013 at 03:24 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS View Post
    MEI is needed by the platform for various things from POST routines to access for temperature and on the fly changes. Can't be "disabled", would not work.
    With MEI drivers all of the following gets installed:
    Code:
    1. Intel? Management Engine Interface 
    2. Intel? Dynamic Application Loader
    3. Intel? Identity Protection Technology (Intel? IPT)
    4. Local Management Service
    Apart from the first one which is necessary, I am almost sure I don't need any of the other three.

    Intel AMT is a business oriented feature, not to mention it has nothing to do with overclocking from Windows and can pose a security risk if left enabled without being properly configured and accounted for because it enables REMOTE management of the PC through an out of band network communication. That is what I meant when I asked why I cannot disable it, sorry if my wording was not clear but I am really tired.

    I have also noticed that some of those components do not uninstall properly (errors in the event log keep showing even after uninstall).

    I would really appreciate to be able to install just the driver for MEI (no services, no applications) like I was doing with Z68 and also drivers only for AMDA00 (ACPI\PNP0A0A device) to remove the "Unknown device" from the Device Management because I am not using any of the Asus provided applications for on the fly tweaking.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS View Post
    My flashing never does what your does. You might have pressed enter twice.
    You know, maybe I did.

    But still, even if I did accidentally hit Enter twice the important and basic rule of user interface programming is that before every critical user input you flush the keyboard buffer to be sure that cat didn't walk over the keyboard or that the user did not accidentally press same key more than once which can also happen if the key contacts bounce or if the repeat rate is too fast.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS View Post
    And you wanted to flash right?
    Sure, but I wanted to check version and checksum, or maybe get a chance to dump existing BIOS first. Next time I will do it from DOS using BUPDATER -- lesson learned.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS View Post
    That's more than enough in my book. No need for any more than that so I won't be suggesting any changes to the process.
    I agree that two prompts are enough, but you may still suggest them to add a keyboard buffer flush before second prompt.

    Thanks the info and the patience, I am going to get Samsung 840 Pro 256GB to replace OCZ Vertex 2 and 3 which I have now.

    I will post how it works later in the evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by audiofreak View Post
    I am going to get Samsung 840 Pro 256GB to replace OCZ Vertex 2 and 3 which I have now.
    There is no Z87 compatibility issue with the Vertex 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Praz View Post
    There is no Z87 compatibility issue with the Vertex 3.
    Well, I am having controller errors on the port the drive is connected to whenever there is disk activity.

    I hope it is not the board... we will see in one hour.

    If someone wants to install MEI without other services the command to run is:
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    setup.exe -drvonly

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    Quote Originally Posted by audiofreak View Post
    With MEI drivers all of the following gets installed:
    Code:
    1. Intel? Management Engine Interface 
    2. Intel? Dynamic Application Loader
    3. Intel? Identity Protection Technology (Intel? IPT)
    4. Local Management Service
    Apart from the first one which is necessary, I am almost sure I don't need any of the other three.

    Intel AMT is a business oriented feature, not to mention it has nothing to do with overclocking from Windows and can pose a security risk if left enabled without being properly configured and accounted for because it enables REMOTE management of the PC through an out of band network communication. That is what I meant when I asked why I cannot disable it, sorry if my wording was not clear but I am really tired.

    I have also noticed that some of those components do not uninstall properly (errors in the event log keep showing even after uninstall).

    I would really appreciate to be able to install just the driver for MEI (no services, no applications) like I was doing with Z68 and also drivers only for AMDA00 (ACPI\PNP0A0A device) to remove the "Unknown device" from the Device Management because I am not using any of the Asus provided applications for on the fly tweaking.

    Too many custom needs for me to get involved in. Not going to suggest this kind of stuff sorry. Would rather focus our resources on making sure things work rather than getting into the nitty gritty of individual installation needs.


    AS for your buffer suggestion I am just going to chock that up to you being overly tired. You didn't even know the file prompts twice and it doesn't happen that fast. You are getting overly worried about nothing.


    Any more suggestions for improvements or your personal needs, its up to your local support. You can tell them whatever you need - it's their job to help you. I have enough to cover without taking on everybody else's work for them so it's my last response about all of this. There's only so much time I have on my hands for work outside our region. Thanks

    Enjoy your board. Take a rest if you're tired. Hope everything goes well for you.

    -Raja
    Last edited by Raja@ASUS; 06-07-2013 at 08:15 AM.
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