Kepler Nvidia GeForce GTX 780

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http://www.expreview.com/25682.html

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http://www.techpowerup.com/184311/ge...-revealed.html

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[m_jones_]

Thanks for posting the benchmarks, looks fairly impressive and better value wise than the titan. Quite curious how it will clock.(badly i suspect)

[Lanek]

Thanks for posting the benchmarks, looks fairly impressive and better value wise than the titan. Quite curious how it will clock.(badly i suspect)

You will need the price for determine if it is a better value of Titan, taking in account is a Titan with less SMX and memory.

( nothing related to the rest of the perf, but how it can loose by 55.5% in Luxmark for a GK110 is a mistery )

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Your welcome
for me if GTX 780 come with this Price 650/700$......my chassi will feel good like me

[paulbagz]

If its only a handful of % slow but a good 30% cheaper then it's a winner.

Plus lightnings/FTWs!

-PB

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SKYMTL Where are you? give us the Review

[hokiealumnus]

NDA's hasn't lifted yet my man.

Not that I'm saying when it will lift. I will neither confirm nor deny anything!

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NDA's hasn't lifted yet my man.

Not that I'm saying when it will lift. I will neither confirm nor deny anything!

They say at 9am Eastern time right?

[paulbagz]

lol Chinese sites just don't GAF

-PB

[LordEC911]

Sure, GK104 could have a memory bottleneck. That makes sense. Memory bottlenecks are a real thing. "Shader bottlenecks"? What on earth is a "shader" bottleneck? Do you understand how a GPU works? You give it more shaders, it does more work in parallel quicker. There are 200-something extra "cores" doing work. And that isn't like a CPU core where some apps aren't multi-threaded. GPU shaders would always get used as long as there is work to do (which, in a game, there always is). Read up on how GPU architecture works maybe? It's a parallel system. Each SMX has the hardware necessary to do both instruction fetching, decoding, scheduling and dispatch. The notion that "those shaders can't get work to do" is ridiculous at best.

So, that's my "snarkiness" and "indignant attitude" for you. I think you're just getting it confused with "knowledge", "understanding", and "observational ability", all of which you apparently lack.

Do you know how GPUs work?
To call you out, how do you explain 5870->6970?

FYI- Synthetics aren't the best way to compare the difference between Titan and GTX780. GTX780 is ~10-15% slower.

[bobsrig]

Over the yrs Hexus posts quite early,maybe because they are in the UK. Hope to hell these cards don't come as close as they seem in those graphics to my Titans, this would not be cool.

[LordEC911]

Sure, GK104 could have a memory bottleneck. That makes sense. Memory bottlenecks are a real thing. "Shader bottlenecks"? What on earth is a "shader" bottleneck? Do you understand how a GPU works? You give it more shaders, it does more work in parallel quicker. There are 200-something extra "cores" doing work. And that isn't like a CPU core where some apps aren't multi-threaded. GPU shaders would always get used as long as there is work to do (which, in a game, there always is). Read up on how GPU architecture works maybe? It's a parallel system. Each SMX has the hardware necessary to do both instruction fetching, decoding, scheduling and dispatch. The notion that "those shaders can't get work to do" is ridiculous at best.

So, that's my "snarkiness" and "indignant attitude" for you. I think you're just getting it confused with "knowledge", "understanding", and "observational ability", all of which you apparently lack.

Do you know how GPUs work?
To call you out, how do you explain 5870->6970?
Might want to read up on SMXs again. Scheduling is highly dependent on software.

FYI- Synthetics aren't the best way to compare the difference between Titan and GTX780. GTX780 is ~10-15% slower.

[Rollo]

Over the yrs Hexus posts quite early,maybe because they are in the UK. Hope to hell these cards don't come as close as they seem in those graphics to my Titans, this would not be cool.

I bought a Titan SC this week knowing these were on the way. (or at least strongly suspecting)

The fact of the matter is, Titans are worth more than these cards. Whether they're worth $300 more probably depends on the user, but for me at least $150 - $200..

So if I paid $300 extra for a card that will always perform higher at stock speeds and I'll never have to worry about running out of VRAM, I'm not going to complain about the price/performance.

Price/Performance wasn't there when I bought any of my intel extreme cpus and AMD FX (the real $1000 FXs, not the beefdozer stuff)

[Rob94hawk]

I'm just gonna need a card that can run games at 2560 x 1600 or 2560 x 1440 at max settings.

What are the chances of the Titan dropping in price after the new releases?

[LordEC911]

I'm just gonna need a card that can run games at 2560 x 1600 or 2560 x 1440 at max settings.

What are the chances of the Titan dropping in price after the new releases?

None.

[BababooeyHTJ]

No way that is right. 15% less shaders and TMU's, 1-2% better clocks, half the memory, and only a 3% performance hit? They aren't using the same drivers (314 vs 320). I'd say it's a driver difference closing the gap.

Have you seen some of the 7950 vs 7970 clock for clock reviews or the 6950 before and after shader unlock comparisons or the gtx 670 and gtx 680 clock for clock comparisons? A lot of apps don't scale linearly with extra shader cores, most don't seem to.

[bobsrig]

I bought a Titan SC this week knowing these were on the way. (or at least strongly suspecting)

The fact of the matter is, Titans are worth more than these cards. Whether they're worth $300 more probably depends on the user, but for me at least $150 - $200..

So if I paid $300 extra for a card that will always perform higher at stock speeds and I'll never have to worry about running out of VRAM, I'm not going to complain about the price/performance.

Price/Performance wasn't there when I bought any of my intel extreme cpus and AMD FX (the real $1000 FXs, not the beefdozer stuff)

You are brave and I hope your using 2560 x 1600 as I see this as the only advantage. The 150 difference I can deal with, its gonna be more like $400. 2 x gt780 $1200 1 Titan $1049. The gtx 780 sli will surely blow away the TITAN and yes still have same ram, as its 2x. I bad joke by nvida I have 2 x Titan have to keep I am screwed but not happy paying premium and 90 days later a clone for 35 percent less. Anyway its all about extreme, I have lost much more with water accidents. Just a vent I am sure many of you feel the same.

[Chickenfeed]

SLI doesn't increase usable VRAM, just bandwidth. You still get the 6GB over the 3GB on the Titan but honestly unless you were running 3 x 27-30" displays, I fail to see where 6GB could be used in gaming at this time ( its more for workstation / rendering use ) It's hard enough to exceed 3GB, save for some excessive texture modding and SLI levels of anti aliasing. 6GB is just for the sake of 6GB at this time. A few years down the road that's sure to change though like every VRAM increase before it.

[bobsrig]

Well I hope you know I did not buy 2 Titans to hook up to 1080p monitors. I have 3 x 120hz 2560 x 1440 OCed.
Buying Titans for 1080p pointless, in my view. Also I use Quadro k5000 for work, works better than Titan for renders.

[Rollo]

Well I hope you know I did not buy 2 Titans to hook up to 1080p monitors. I have 3 x 120hz 2560 x 1440 OCed.
Buying Titans for 1080p pointless, in my view. Also I use Quadro k5000 for work, works better than Titan for renders.

Both of my monitors are 25X16, Titan for one and a 7970 GHz for the other.

You have NOTHING to be sad about. Two Titans is THE rig for 75X14. My guess is it would be pretty easy to jump that 3GB framebuffer at that res with AA.

So while people with lower res might be better off with 780s, you really only had one choice IMO.

[GoldenTiger]

Well I hope you know I did not buy 2 Titans to hook up to 1080p monitors. I have 3 x 120hz 2560 x 1440 OCed.
Buying Titans for 1080p pointless, in my view. Also I use Quadro k5000 for work, works better than Titan for renders.

Yeah, I would say you are definitely one of the few where the Titan will seriously benefit you instead of the 780 cards.

[Rollo]

Yeah, I would say you are definitely one of the few where the Titan will seriously benefit you instead of the 780 cards.

Personally I like the fact I'm not likely to exceed frame buffer at 25 X16 with AA. That's worth something.

[Chickenfeed]

Can we expect reviews soon or is the NDA later than 12:00 EST ?