Asrock Z77 Extreme4 & Extreme6. Report issues, overclocks, and related stuff here!

[ante_ante]

Trying to get XfastUSB to work with Superspeed. Well so far i can tell it?s bull or i do something wrong. Attached my Seagate backup Plus USB3.0 to the blue header on the back and doing the same as the asrock video, but all i got is max 100mb/s. Do i need some special drivers or?

[DjLeco]

Hi all!

I have ASRock Z77 Extreme 6, now using 2x2Gb G.Skill PI series, official are 2200Mhz/7.10.10.28/1,65Vdram, as seen in cpu-z windows.







From as I know, those mems are capable of more than 2400-2600Mhz with relaxed latencies, but on mine unit, doesn't want more than 2200Mhz, rarely boot into 2400Mhz, with 8 or 9 CL, 2 from 5 tryies, on AUTO SPD or manual set SPD....

Once I saw booted at 2400Mhz with CL7 at 1,74Vdram, but just one time...

I tryied with more voltage, even at Vdram, even also at Cpu, VTT, Vccsa, etc, no succees for booting, always restarts with cpu at 3500Mhz and default ram of 1333Mhz.

Cpu looks promising, as I get full stability for 4800Mhz at 1,24 vcore in bios on LLC1, 1,248-1,255 showed by cpuZ in full load on Prime large FFT , LinX, etc.

Could be a bad (poor) IMC on that chip?

Can U advice me for some settings to reach more than 2200Mhz with that MB wich officialy is capable of 2800Mhz for ram?

I bought those ram too:



and not even at 2400Mhz, no booting, tried also XMP1,3 (official specs), on XMP or manual SPD setting, nothing...

On other computers, ram was achieved 2900+ Mhz, and at me, not even 2400...

What is wrong?

[Gaul]

You can if you want. The Extreme3 isn't in the same class which is why its not mentioned here, but the boards are similar.



Did you disconnect all power and pull the battery then press the power button 3-4 times? Sounds like some kind of short to me.

could it not be a problem with the PSU?

thx already RMA, and take extreem 4 now

[thatguy82b]

For the RAM that doesn't work above, isn't that CPU PLL voltage a little low?

[DjLeco]

Hi all!

I have ASRock Z77 Extreme 6, now using 2x2Gb G.Skill PI series, official are 2200Mhz/7.10.10.28/1,65Vdram, as seen in cpu-z windows.







From as I know, those mems are capable of more than 2400-2600Mhz with relaxed latencies, but on mine unit, doesn't want more than 2200Mhz, rarely boot into 2400Mhz, with 8 or 9 CL, 2 from 5 tryies, on AUTO SPD or manual set SPD....

Once I saw booted at 2400Mhz with CL7 at 1,74Vdram, but just one time...

I tryied with more voltage, even at Vdram, even also at Cpu, VTT, Vccsa, etc, no succees for booting, always restarts with cpu at 3500Mhz and default ram of 1333Mhz.

Cpu looks promising, as I get full stability for 4800Mhz at 1,24 vcore in bios on LLC1, 1,248-1,255 showed by cpuZ in full load on Prime large FFT , LinX, etc.

Could be a bad (poor) IMC on that chip?

Can U advice me for some settings to reach more than 2200Mhz with that MB wich officialy is capable of 2800Mhz for ram?

I bought those ram too:



and not even at 2400Mhz, no booting, tried also XMP1,3 (official specs), on XMP or manual SPD setting, nothing...

On other computers, ram was achieved 2900+ Mhz, and at me, not even 2400...

What is wrong?

F@k ASRock with their stupid motherboard, junk, dirty low trash...

Put mine cpu and memories on ASUS motherboard (Maximus V Extreme), and instantly boot DIRECTLY to 2800Mhz at memories ON AUTO!

After, with a little adjust, I (a friend of mine, is his motherboard), go to what you see.

With Corsair Dominator Platinum 2666Mhz CL11, ASRock not even reach 2000Mhz, 11.xx.xx.xx at memories...

Max was 1866Mhz...

Bull$hit.
They lost me as client.

[thatguy82b]

Wow really? XMP profiles? Anyways I see you have different settings between the boards:

Comparison:
Asus
2T timing
1.80V CPU PLL
1.3V VCCSA
1.75V RAM (1.75V is said to be very, very dangerous on Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge can stand higher voltages, but probably 1.7V is as high as what you'd want to go on Ivy).

Asrock
1T timing (less stable than 2)
1.536V CPU PLL (which is too low)
1.016V VCCSA (fairly standard but way lower than what you set the Asus board to)
1.62V RAM (on 1.65V modules)

So, the Asrock with the Asus settings still fails? There are some significant differences there. I would have thought 1.3V VCCSA is a bit high, so if that is what Asus automatically sets, then it doesn't necessarily mean it's a better board!

Another point is, you should NOT have to run DDR3-2800 1.65V RAM at 1.75V to be stable. Something is off there! If anything, the Asrock board is safer because it sounds like you'll shortly have a bricked CPU etc using that Asus board.

[DjLeco]

Now , everything looks fine...

Asus Maximus V Formula, is a perfect board for me.

[thatguy82b]

Uploaded new modded bioses to include the v12.0.0.1783? ROM's.

Extreme 4: http://burf.cesidian.info/Asrock%20M...ginal%20v2.exe
Extreme 6: http://burf.cesidian.info/Asrock%20M...ginal%20v2.exe

[thatguy82b]

Now , everything looks fine...

Asus Maximus V Formula, is a perfect board for me.

I don't think you had the settings right on the Asrock board like I said earlier. Also, it's hardly a fair comparison since the Asus Maximus V Formula does cost considerably more than the Extreme 4 or Extreme 6. The Maximum V Extreme you mentioned earlier is even more - it's between 2.5 and 3 times more expensive. Yeah, great comparison!

Also what's with the memory? You were crapping on about G.Skill memory (2x2GB, which isn't much) not working on the Asrock board with incorrect settings, and saying they should run at 2900+, then you use a board that costs considerably more, and says it works, and yet the screenshots show it's in fact CORSAIR RAM and RAM that is actually rated for 2800. Also, you mentioned 2666 RAM earlier on too. Which is it? I know it's definitely 2800 RAM you are running because the model number is CMD16GX3M4A2800C11. That Corsair RAM probably works fine in the Asrock board, as long as you use sensible things like CPU-PLL a bit higher than the 1.532V you were trying to run.

Good to know that the rated RAM works at the rated speed in a very expensive motherboard, and 2200 RAM doesn't run at 2900Mhz in a standard board with incorrect settings. Good to know.

Stop TROLLING. Do you work for Asus or something?

[DjLeco]

No, it was like this.
G.Skill PI series coted at 2200Mhz with 7.10.10.28 at 1,65 volts XMP profile (PSC chips inside) works very fine on ASRock motherboard, in Z77 chiposet, also in P67 chipset.

But as I know, those G.Skill PI series ram, are capable of more than 2600 Mhz with tight CL.

Tested at a friend of mine on Asus Maximus V formula, system boot instantly at 2600Mhz with CL9, with a little more voltage than written on XMP profile (1,65), around 1,68-1,69.

On ASRock, nothin above 2200Mhz, just once succesfully at 2400Mhz, with more than 1,72Vdram, but with huge errors on memtest, prime 95 (blend) or linX.....

Any try of more than 2400Mhz (2600-2666-2800-3000Mhz), yes their bios offers 2600-2666-2800-3000Mhz divider for memory on bios settings, goes into fail boot , and recall 1333Mhz memory.

Same with Corsair 2800Mhz CL11 ram , no more than 2200Mhz, with any of CL, even AUTO.

2400Mhz NO way, no any latence, no even on AUTO, or XMP profile...

Tried with 2666Mhz CL11 Corsair ram , the little brother of 2800Mhz Corsair, no even touched 2000Mhz CL9...

Last obtainable boot was at 1866Mhz, with CL9.

Trying 2000Mhz at divider, system freeze, and reboot again on 1333Mhz.

Tried with many bioses, even with one dimm memory, same $hit results.

So, decided to move to Maximus V formula, and surprise!!!!!!!!

First boot, go into bios, select XMP profile, restart and VOILA, directly 2800Mhz, at memory, with no other touch...

If those motherboards (a$rock) weren't capable to clock memories higher, then NEVER WRITE on site, that they run memory on OC mode, above 2200-2400Mhz.


It was misleading, and I spent money, time, and nerves, without succes to run memories aven in XMP profile...

So, bye bye A$rock, welcome (again) Asus.

[thatguy82b]

I'm running my Gskill DDR3-2400 RAM at 2457Mhz (CPU 43x102.4), 1T timing, and it works fine. I did notice on the comparative screenshots that some of the settings weren't the same, which is why I 'attacked' you lol. for instance, CPU PLL was way too low on the Asrock board.

But all in all, the Asus board should be better, because it cost significantly more. The equivalent in Asus of the Asrock Z77 Extreme6 is the Asus p8z77-v le plus, based on price. So if that is the price equivalent, how does that go with overclocking the memory? It's listed as only going to 2400! The nature of RAM, when it is in 'RAM overclock' territory, it does come down to compatibility between different brands and different spec levels of boards.

As I said before, some of the settings seemed a bit 'off', such as the CPU-PLL voltage. Also, 2T timing is supposedly more stable than 1T timing, and in the comparative shots you had the Asus board at 2T timing and the Asrock board at 1T, along with other settings that may have impeded stability.

At the end of the day though, it comes down to how much you paid for the board. Asus should have spent more resources on stability for the very high end Maximus V Formula, they probably wouldn't have spent so much time on making sure people could get to 2800Mhz on the Extreme6 equivalent, the P8z77-v LE plus, or even the P8Z77-V for that matter. If you have the Asrock Z77 OC Formula, the argument would be more in you favour, since that board is specifically designed for high overclocks like the Maximus V Formula, and not just an all-rounder like the Extreme6.

What could be considered the 'equivalent' of the Maximus V formula is the Asrock Z77 Extreme9 (there is also an Extreme11), both of which have higher end overclock ability like the Maximus V Formula. It's also partly to do with the tuning gone into the modules inside the bios for memory compatibility etc. The more you pay, the more work done (effectively...).

[DjLeco]

For me, relevant fact is :

On the Asrock, memory Corsair Platinum Dominator,2800Mhz CL11 (Hynix chips) cannot work (for me) above 2200Mhz, even with Vpll at 1,7-1,8 for CPU, also PLL overvoltage enabled too.
Maximum stability was obtained at 2133Mhz and 2200Mhz with CL9 respective CL10.

On Asus Maximus V Formula, memory started from first settings on bios at 2800Mhz, with Vpll set at 1,60Volts, rest of tensions and adjust on AUTO.
Also I have raised memory freq to 3000+ Mhz without touch any settings, just BCLK adjusting to raise up memory.

This is the simple fact, on Asus , works, on Asrock, doesn't...

Or we must buy the top motherboard, to suceed to use memory at XMP profiles...

What I hate, is the time, money and nervs I spent trying to make system to work, without succes.

Easyest way was simple to explain:

Want OVC toi memory, buy top of the motherboard, the Z77 Extreme 6 cannot assure more than 2400Mhz.

Simple.
I want to see just one motherboard Asrock Z77 Extreme 6, runing mems at 2600 or 2800Mhz.
Have anyone succed?
Maybe I'm a particular case of insuccess...

What I have to STILL respect Asrock, is that they still offer PCI slot on their motherboards, in fact that's why I buyed Asrock MB, because I still want to keep the soundcard from mine system signature.

Now, I must bui one Creative X-Fi Titanium Fataloty Champion series on PCI-E, for mine new motherboard.

So, still waiting to see one printscreen containing Asrock Z77 Extreme 6 motherboard working with memory at minimum 2600 Mhz.
I insist on that because on description is written these:

DDR3 2800+(OC)/2400(OC)/2133(OC)/1866(OC)/1600/1333/1066 non-ECC

[xdan]

thatguy82b, DjLeco has nothing against Asrock.
He had before this P67 Extreme6 + 2600K(4.8ghz 1.280v very good chip) more than a year.
Because of the very good experience on Asrock with P67 chose Z77 mb from Asrock too.

But it didn't work lile he wanted. May be his board it's a little defective but he cannot imput any motive for RMA.
So he moved on another board.
And my opinion is that in quality Z77 Extreme4/6 mb's are under P67 Extreme4/6 standards.

So stop you from trolling.

[DjLeco]

So, I love(d) ASRock board, as Dan said, I had P67 Extreme 6 board for 2 years not one, and after tested for max stability, for mine ex-configuration,(Core i7-2600K+Asrock P67 Extreme 6+Gtx 580 updated to GTX680+2x2Gb G.Skill PI 2200/7.10.10.28), I kept for 24/7 with 4800Mhz/1,30Vcore, and in almost 2 years interval, NEVER seen a BSOD on Win Xp Sp3...

So when upgrading, I decided to keep ASRock as MB manufacturer, being very satisfied of it, and purchased Z77 Extreme 6 TB4.

That was a big dissapointed, as a brand new motherboard, doesn't work one S-ata of ASMedia controller, not internal, not E-Sata, memory as I described,I replaced by another Z77 Extreme 6, this time without tunderbolt, and same memory, nothing ...

So, after that, the story described above.

And no, no working and no behefits from Asus, I'm a simple Romanian, who claims for results described in official site presentation, memory OC 2800...

[Gaul]

Simple.
I want to see just one motherboard Asrock Z77 Extreme 6, runing mems at 2600 or 2800Mhz.
Have anyone succed?
Maybe I'm a particular case of insuccess...

anyone 2x ? max on extreme4 of mine is 2400 CL 10-12-12-31

[thatguy82b]

As I said before, my Gskill 2400 RAM runs fine, and it's running at 2467Mhz 1T timing (Extreme6 board). DDR3-2800 is quite a niche product, on Newegg Corsair Platinum DDR3-2800 C11 4x4GB is currently going for $639.99. Going by that price alone, it's clear it's not really mainstream RAM. The Asus Maximus V Formula board is an upper high end board, specifically designed for taking RAM like that. The Asrock boards can take faster RAM too, but like the more standard Asus boards (P8Z77 range) running such RAM becomes more of a hit and miss. The 2400 RAM is fine because it is upper mainstream, meaning although it is fast there would still be quite a few people using it. 16GB of this (2x8GB modules) is only $139. The Intel memory controller seems to peak at 2133Mhz anyway, so anything more than that has diminishing returns. The DDR3-2400 RAM is a consideration only because it isn't too much more than 2133 RAM. Considering the DDR3-2800 RAM costs 5 times as much as the DDR3-2400, it's a fair enough assumption that someone would couple it with a high end board.

In terms of the other board features, I haven't had any issues with the Asmedia controller. In fact, I am using both of them right now. The specific E-Sata port on the back of the motherboard is shared with the second Asmedia port, so if you have anything plugged into that, the port on the motherboard is disabled (whilst the E-sata port is utilised). This isn't too uncommon as it reduces costs. It also states states that in the product literature. If they didn't do that, they'd have to pay for yet another controller on the board to provide the E-Sata feature. This doesn't make much sense on a mainstream (upper) oriented board, especially since USB 3.0 is becoming favoured over E-Sata.

[DjLeco]

That was the best on RAM that I've obtained when I had that board.

Ram was at 1,65 volts:




Regardind ASMedia controller, it was just hard disks put on that controller, NO E-Sata or USB plugged, in back or front.
One of ports was saying on bios NO DEVICE.

It was dead...

[jamexman]

Uploaded new modded bioses to include the v12.0.0.1783? ROM's.

Extreme 4: http://burf.cesidian.info/Asrock%20M...ginal%20v2.exe
Extreme 6: http://burf.cesidian.info/Asrock%20M...ginal%20v2.exe

Could you update/fix the links?

[thatguy82b]

Yes, sorry! The server I was using was 'donated space with access' provided by the guy that managed the Windows 7 Hotfix Repository etc (if you know what they were). Apparently there were massive, frequent, and changing to suit the security changes DOS and DDOS attacks on the server, from a 5 letter country beginning with 'Chi', and I'm not referring to Chile! I think he may have decided to pull the plug which is unfortunate, since the website was invaluable to those that like a full state of 'updatedness'.

I have therefore uploaded the 'main' stuff I had hosted there on to dropbox. They're available from under the modded bios folder here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yvo0u5lrac3whv2/j3Uhlqc9j8

[merc]

Do not forget that to do oc in ram dual channel use ONLY A2-B2 slots...
I had some problems with my Geil Evo Corsa 1866 and when i read the F.... manual it was there my anwser...

[bluc]

OK strange issue I have had two bios chips on seperate etreme6 boards fail. When first board failed, I bought a replacement board and bought a bios chip as a long shot thing to try on first board. Both boards boot with the new bios chip. Was not from bad flash or from accidental clear CMOS button press. Any ideas as to what would be killing my bios chips? Thanks in advance cheers

[Church]

As per this thread, i customised splash screen in 2.80 bios for my Z77 Extreme4. Any hints if/how possible to use larger size images for boot splash screen? Need to up jpeg compression down to 20/100 to get under 33KB size limit noticeably worsens image.

[thatguy82b]

Version 3 of the bios mods for Extreme 6 bios 2.60 and Extreme 4 bios 2.80.

Changes:
- updated Intel storage option ROM and 'SATAdriver' to 12.5.0.1815

Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 2.80 modded: http://db.tt/vkfln3WA
Asrock Z77 Extreme 6 2.60 modded: http://db.tt/PxfmNDDw

(modded based on latest bios versions)

Remember to take note of any changes you have made to the bios before flashing. This is regardless of whether you use just standard ROM's or modded ROM's, as CMOS settings are defaulted upon updating.

[thatguy82b]

Version 4 of the bios mods for Extreme 6 bios 2.60 and Extreme 4 bios 2.80 mod.

Updated (R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge PCI Accelerated SVGA BIOS from Build Number: 2143 PC 14.34 05/22/2012 19:43:15 to 2158 PC 14.34 11/23/2012 07:41:13

Notes:

• the unmodified ROM's have VGA bios version 2137
• versions and bios name extracted from the rom files
• mods based on the latest bios versions at his time

Asrock Z77 Extreme 4: http://db.tt/GhmPko70
Asrock Z77 Extreme 6: http://db.tt/AGJ3nOn5

I update the bioses as the new ROM's become available, the Intel VGA ROM wasn't available (as far as I know) when the SATA rom's were updated the other day.
Remember to take note of any changes you have made to the bios before flashing. This is regardless of whether you use just standard ROM's or modded ROM's, as CMOS settings are defaulted upon updating.

[M3kk]

Hey, can u do a modded bios for an Asrock Pro3 Gen3 too?
Ty.

Version 4 of the bios mods for Extreme 6 bios 2.60 and Extreme 4 bios 2.80 mod.

Updated (R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge PCI Accelerated SVGA BIOS from Build Number: 2143 PC 14.34 05/22/2012 19:43:15 to 2158 PC 14.34 11/23/2012 07:41:13

Notes:

• the unmodified ROM's have VGA bios version 2137
• versions and bios name extracted from the rom files
• mods based on the latest bios versions at his time

Asrock Z77 Extreme 4: http://db.tt/GhmPko70
Asrock Z77 Extreme 6: http://db.tt/AGJ3nOn5

I update the bioses as the new ROM's become available, the Intel VGA ROM wasn't available (as far as I know) when the SATA rom's were updated the other day.
Remember to take note of any changes you have made to the bios before flashing. This is regardless of whether you use just standard ROM's or modded ROM's, as CMOS settings are defaulted upon updating.