AMD FX "Vishera" reviews info (again, after mod mistake)

[tbone8ty]

interesting the closeness of the fps data of the FX-8120 and the FX-8350....but with huge clock speed differences

so this means more cores is better over clock speed?

[zalbard]

Crysis 3 (beta) and FX AMD looks very good in practice. Now is core i3 Ivy Bridge totally destroyed....
http://pctuning.tyden.cz/multimedia/...naroku?start=6

I don't see how 3770K, which has higher IPC, does worse in C3 than 8350. Unless the game uses more than 4 threads?

Makes me question the validity of the whole review.

[tbone8ty]

since were talking about Crysis 3 and FX-8350

trying out this cool frametime app for fraps

http://sourceforge.net/projects/frafsbenchview/



1920x1200
very high, 16x, tess very high, smaa medium, no vsync
msi 7950 twinfrozr stock
fx-8350 4.5ghz
cat 13.1

im pretty sure this was the airport level

be interesting to see the differences between 13.1 and 13.2 beta 4

[FlanK3r]

I don't see how 3770K, which has higher IPC, does worse in C3 than 8350. Unless the game uses more than 4 threads?

Makes me question the validity of the whole review.

PCtuning is biggest czech online hardware web, Im one from reviewers, and I believe "Tomas Sulc" is honorable man. There are his reviews:http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?o...A1%20%C5%A0ulc
He wrote more than 400 reviews...

[tbone8ty]

anybody try new asrock 990fx extreme9 mobo?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157358


looks niiice

[Maxforces]

PCtuning is biggest czech online hardware web, Im one from reviewers, and I believe "Tomas Sulc" is honorable man. There are his reviews:http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?o...A1%20%C5%A0ulc
He wrote more than 400 reviews...

and after 400 reviews he still doesn't know how to test CPU in games. Look at the previous test how i5 760 is faster than i5 3550, i5 2500

no comment

the same in BF3 i5 760 as fast as i5 2500K



in practice is quite different in BF3

later we have Crysis 2 the same story i5 760 as fast as i5 2500k wow even faster


but again cpu test look like this not like this one above


This person shouldn't make cpu reviews

anybody try new asrock 990fx extreme9 mobo?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157358


looks niiice

but brown PCB looks awfully like my MSI 990FXa GD80, asrock shoud make black

[FlanK3r]

Depens at more situation....Example drivers, resolution, GPU (not the same you see with GTX580 as with HD 7970 or GTX 680 example). Next is location of game. And last one not only average FPS, but minimal FPS. This Poland CPU test could be made with diff, GPU and settings in drivers or resolution. Im not happy with CPU gaming test in 1280x768, its boring. Noone play with this resolution modern games and CPU limitition you can see at 1680x1050 and low details too. It is more practice for community of gamers (low resolution for older cards or for APUs and lowend gpus).

[PedantOne]

Maxforces - yes, because this is REAL scenario testing, in High resolution whre is limitation in VGA not on CPU

ps. from which PL review are your pictures?

[Maxforces]

Depens at more situation....Example drivers, resolution, GPU (not the same you see with GTX580 as with HD 7970 or GTX 680 example). Next is location of game. And last one not only average FPS, but minimal FPS. This Poland CPU test could be made with diff, GPU and settings in drivers or resolution. Im not happy with CPU gaming test in 1280x768, its boring. Noone play with this resolution modern games and CPU limitition you can see at 1680x1050 and low details too. It is more practice for community of gamers (low resolution for older cards or for APUs and lowend gpus).

Do not pretend you do not know what is wrong with Tomas Sulc reviews. Anyone who knows what's going on in cpu review note that MS.X screwed up job.
useful for the future
http://translate.googleusercontent.c...XP4zvLgF0d0WiA

Maxforces - yes, because this is REAL scenario testing, in High resolution whre is limitation in VGA not on CPU

ps. from which PL review are your pictures?

Buul in 90% of cases. For example FC3 isn't CPU limited in many cases, but it's better to show no difference between the processors as shown above

http://translate.googleusercontent.c...6UokjioNgLVo-A

[FlanK3r]

but there is some bul*t, who say how weak is FX in FP...Look at this:
http://techreport.com/review/19514/a...ure-revealed/2

[PedantOne]

maxforce: you are right, that czech review is weird, polish one is many better

[demonkevy666]

and after 400 reviews he still doesn't know how to test CPU in games. Look at the previous test how i5 760 is faster than i5 3550, i5 2500

no comment

the same in BF3 i5 760 as fast as i5 2500K



in practice is quite different in BF3

later we have Crysis 2 the same story i5 760 as fast as i5 2500k wow even faster


but again cpu test look like this not like this one above


This person shouldn't make cpu reviews


but brown PCB looks awfully like my MSI 990FXa GD80, asrock shoud make black

Tom's has an I3 2100 3.1ghz as a fast as a 4.5ghz I7 hexa core 3960K in farcry 3 ?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...rk,3379-7.html.

newer game phenomenon ?

[informal]

It's called GPU bound games. Get used to it it's going to be a trend. Modern games are shader bound and four relatively fast cores will do the job done at 1080p. Sure push down the resolution and differences will arise but this is not going to show you how current and future games(like I said, bound by GPU) are going to perform. This is especially going to be amplified by a next gen console hardware makeup: x86 cores with GCN GPUs. The games will be primarily developed with multicore in mind and will push the visuals to the maximum of GPU hardware capabilities. This will translate to relatively easy to port PC games(for Windows) that will look and perform best on the fastest GPUs while having just a several fast x86 cores will be enough.

[Maxforces]

informal
FC3 isn't GPU bound game but you have places to test GPU and CPU. You have a lot of places where the processor is very important but as you can see many reviewers can't distinguish this. First I played on FX8320@4.7Ghz(never again) than I moved to i7 2600K@4.7 and I was so happy from gameplay.
properly done FC3 1920x1080 VH



Tom's and czech site madefrom FC3
new C3 is completely different but still you have samll differences 2-3 fps in scale 40fps





normal play, no comparison,just how they behave in game

@down
look links above.
you asked a stupid question do you want a stupid answer?

[demonkevy666]

informal
FC3 isn't GPU bound game but you have places to test GPU and CPU. You have a lot of places where the processor is very important but as you can see many reviewers can't distinguish this. First I played on FX8320@4.7Ghz(never again) than I moved to i7 2600K@4.7 and I was so happy from gameplay.
properly done FC3 1920x1080 VH



Tom's and czech site madefrom FC3

Are you trolling or what ?

680 vs 7970 = http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/3714...pus-conclusion

[informal]

Yep different GPUs. Not directly comparable as shown before.

The last conclusion we can draw is that the AMD Radeon HD 7970 GHz edition suffers less from CPU scaling than the Nvidia GeForce GTX 680. That means that the AMD card performs better with slower processors compared to the Nvidia card. We don't have a clear explanation for this, but it's possible it has something to do with the driver overhead.

680 just likes intel CPUs more for some reason. 7970 plays nicely with both(maybe AMD driver optimization?). One more reason for AMD users to stick with AMD GPUs

[Maxforces]

No Nvidia sucks w cpu optimization in drivers.
7970 do not plays nicely with both, depending on the game and the place
Arma 2 isn't smooth on the FX8320@4.7ghz + 7970

[FlanK3r]

http://pctuning.tyden.cz/component/c...ga#CommentMenu

Richland launch in March?! OBR wrote about new logos and some information about new models of FX Vishera in summer 2013.

[informal]

A10-6700 specs are just crazy fine . QC @ 3.7-4.3GHz + 384SP @ 844Mhz GPU all in 65W. Amazing efficiency with just a tweaked Trinity. Also new FX models will be just clock bump but still if AMD manages 4.2-4.4GHz 125W model for the same price as 8350 or better yet 3.9-4.3Ghz 83xxx in 95W it would be great .

[Opteron146]

Lol .. "world exclusive logos" .. these are known since AMD's presentation at CES at the beginning of January.
S|A had it e.g. covered here:
http://semiaccurate.com/2013/01/08/a...ss-conference/
http://semiaccurate.com/2013/01/08/a...nce/new-logos/

But there are lots of other sites.

Anyways, the launch dates are nevertheless interesting.

[tbone8ty]

FX-8370 4.2/4.6ghz turbo?

[FlanK3r]

I think, if will be here FX-8370, it could be 4.2 GHz/4.3-4.4GHz

[Alex-Ro]

A10-6700 specs are just crazy fine . QC @ 3.7-4.3GHz + 384SP @ 844Mhz GPU all in 65W. Amazing efficiency with just a tweaked Trinity. Also new FX models will be just clock bump but still if AMD manages 4.2-4.4GHz 125W model for the same price as 8350 or better yet 3.9-4.3Ghz 83xxx in 95W it would be great .

Nothing is great,they need to bring steamroller in the game asap,no need for another piledriver with increased frequency,bring steamroller and 10% ipc then amd can hope they will survive this year...

[informal]

Nothing is great,they need to bring steamroller in the game asap,no need for another piledriver with increased frequency,bring steamroller and 10% ipc then amd can hope they will survive this year...

FX is peanuts money in AMD's processor mix . They don't need SR this year to survive. Richland will hold the fort until SR based Kaveri comes in late 2013. And since Haswell will be "up to 10%" faster than 3770K AMD doesn't need SR on desktop since Haswell won't be a game changer. They will do just fine with PD based FX parts IF they can manage higher clock and/or better TDP numbers. It looks like they will aim exactly at those targets with FX refresh as ~5% better FX part with similar power draw or same performance within 95W will do OK in desktop segment.

[Alex-Ro]

No they won't they are just lagging too much,by the time steamroller arrives it will face broadwell on a 14 nm node with obviously much lower power consumption.Also,i agree that fx do not count as much in sales,but they need to show that they are competitive,for example if amd would launch tommorow fx 8400 with similar performance to ivy bridge whole lineup would get a boost in sales,because A LOT of people will compare what's best from the 2 sides and make their choise based on that,no matter if they won;t buy the top of the line and just an i3/fx 4300 for example...