AMD "Piledriver" refresh of Zambezi - info, speculations, test, fans

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btw, in CS6 Photoshop is FX better than in CS5.x (more close with 2600k).

beep:every chip is different, in OC, in temperatures. My FXs (now 5x FX-8150, 2x FX-8120) are all different, some are cold, some hotter with similar OC. The same in power consumption, between the best and worse chip is about 30W difference in load in stock!

I know, that goes for every CPU generation
But once again informal tries to shed only good light on FX and hide all it's problems.
This time I take a neutral stance instead of being upset about AMD taking a step backward...like I was at release, someone hoping AMD would close the MT (power) efficiency gap with intel and also partially close the already visible single thread gap they had with intel...(I was mad because while they improved MT performance 50% of the time, power consumption was so bad, efficiency got worse for what they had compared to 45nm, ST got worse, etc)

The problem now though is:
The process matured...
Overclocks got worse in general.
Power consumption is still hit or miss, not sure if generally better than older uarch, but this process is mature now so lets wait for 8350 reviews
In many single thread apps, this architecture does not cut it.
In many MT apps, it beats the old architecture by less than 33% - each thread giving less performance than older uarch...
Informal claims it beats or at least matches Phenom II overall gaming, but I see people getting 4.3+ Phenom II stable and highest I've seen across the net with BD was 4.8 air up until now, in which case Phenom II wins 1/2 the time and Informal's claims go from "beat or match" to "match or lose".

Look, they are fun to have and a lot of us don't care about power consumption but are just enthusiasts who want new toys so it is ok...

But anyone wanting to get work done efficiently chooses the 8-thread intel product, which pays itself off in a few months of electricity and beats the AMD product up to 80% in single thread, or power efficiency multi-thread.


I don't like the way OBR used his english sometimes, and the kind of things he writes about, his :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: blog where he attacks people personally and uses vulgar language about those people or subject of his articles...
But he does make points once in a while and personally I am tired of Informal's relentless AMD fanboyism