Well my point is that no matter how you look at the average "IPC" and average clock uplifts,you will end up with what AMD Projected themselves: 10-15% performance jump versus FX8150. That's all. This is pretty decent and will put FX8350 very close (if not faster) to 3770K in various threaded workloads. Single-thread workloads will be still intel's domain,while they will surely be faster on Vishera(vs FX8150).