NEW: aquaero 5 series

[D749]

I know I'm not the only one who has had all sorts of odd connection issues with the AQ5 (http://forum.aquacomputer.de/weitere...ion-with-pa2s/). I own 2 AQ5 and 4 PA2s (all with the latest firmware) and have run them in various PCs only to experience USB connection issues and loss of connection between the AQ5s and PA2s.

If you have issues like these I implore you to post up on the AC forum and let them know. Either make a new post on their forum or reply to my thread linked above. I love the AC products, but I'm tired of hearing that the issue does not lie with the AQ5 and/or PA2s.

AC forum: http://forum.aquacomputer.de/weitere...english-forum/

Thanks.

[Shoggy]

I connected 3 of the same fans(F12) to all the headers except the one which says D5 pump(techo signal only) and the RPMs and Amps were very different on one of the headers.
Turns out that one of the fan headers("case fans") is getting lot of current(1.97A)!
All the headers are at 100%.

Looks like some part on the controller is damaged and also causes the weird values.It is very unlikely that this just happens alone so maybe there is a problem with the wiring or one of the fans it not OK.

You will not be able to fix that yourself so the device must be send back to your dealer so he can forward it to us or you send it directly to us. Please note that in case of an self-inflicted damage we will charge at least the shipping costs back to you.

I know I'm not the only one who has had all sorts of odd connection issues with the AQ5 (http://forum.aquacomputer.de/weitere...ion-with-pa2s/). I own 2 AQ5 and 4 PA2s (all with the latest firmware) and have run them in various PCs only to experience USB connection issues and loss of connection between the AQ5s and PA2s.

The aquabus has been already completely rewritten - high speed and low speed. The update will be inside the next aquasuite which should be available mid July.

[Liam_G]

This is a bit out of left field but I need some help regarding using the Aquaero 5 LT to control a secondary PSU. I want to use this Meanwell RSP 750w-24v PSU http://www.meanwell.com/search/RSP-750/default.htm to power a TEC chiller set up, it is a variable DC PSU. If you connect a 2pin cable to its control circuitry (pin5 and pin11 on the PSU's CN50 terminal) and apply 2v analog DC it will trim the PSU's output voltage to 9.6v, alternatively if you apply 5v it will allow the full 24v output and you can adjust between 2-5v for any output in between.

So my question is, what output on the Aquaero 5 LT would be most suitable for this? The requirements are that it is analog DC and can provide between 0-5v. Should I use one of the 4 12v analog voltage fan channels and set up a voltage curve of between 2-5v based on water temp to control the PSU which in turn controls the TEC chiller? Or is one of the other outputs more suitable, are there any native 5v analog outputs on the aquareo that could be used? it has to be capable of being adjusted based on the water temp, what do the aquabus LS and HS outputs provide?

Do the 4 analog voltage fan channels have any voltage ripple or are they perfect clean DC?

Also if I set up a 2-5v curve on the 12v analog output in the software will it ever exceed that 5v, ie in bootup will it run full 12v? that would damage the PSU.

Any info you can provide would be great.

[Shoggy]

You can use one of the four fan channels. The generate a clean analog output but of course like any other normal device with a very slight voltage ribble which should not matter in any way. You could also filter the signal if necessary.

There are not other connectors that you could use. Please note that the PWM channels use a pulsed 12V signal so this will not work for your purpose.

[Liam_G]

You can use one of the four fan channels. The generate a clean analog output but of course like any other normal device with a very slight voltage ribble which should not matter in any way. You could also filter the signal if necessary.

There are not other connectors that you could use. Please note that the PWM channels use a pulsed 12V signal so this will not work for your purpose.

Ok, thanks shoggy, thats what I thought. I can use a low pass filter if there is too much ripple, but it sounds fine.

And it sounds like I won't need a voltage divider to ensure that it never exceeds 5v. I'm assuming the controller's non volatile memory prevents it from allowing any higher voltage than what is set, even in startup. Unless the start boost voltage for fans is selected.

I will post back in this thread when I have it all working. I think other customers will be interested to know that the Aquaero can control a secondary PSU and TEC Chiller set up, as well as all the pumps and fans.

[Church]

Shoggy: imho you should be more active in announcing new AC products , extra info never hurts in moving new stuff otherwise potential customers know nothing about.
When browsing AC's shop.aquacomputer.de noticed few new additions, some seemed rather interesting:
Flow sensor mps flow {1,2,4}00, G1/4 which are with no minipropeller/windmill alike rotating parts, getting flow readings via measuring pressure. It will probably mean least pressure drop/flow resistance of all the flow sensors. Other good points - integrated temp sensor and usb/aquabus interfaces. As 1gpm is above ranges of mps flow 100 & 200, probably 400 is one to get. They are priced same anyway with only difference being flow range they are meant to. No clue, how precise these are compared to common flow meters.
Another interesting addition seemed D5 pump with integrated usb and aquabus interface and without top (probably for use in AC's modularity system rads). Pitty it's description is only in german. It seems to have those usb/aquabus interfaces for monitoring .. but maybe also for controlling? Shoggy: might it mean something like D5 PWM pump with ability to change rpms via software or it's rpm monitoring only?

[gatecrasherlok]

I agree with churchy. Now that you have linked me to the new inline flow sensor, I am thinking as to whether I should return the one I was going to get in favor of the new one.

[Shteud]

Shoggy
any comments about this new line of accessories http://shop.aquacomputer.de/index.php?language=en& ?

[Avathar77]

Usually its manufacturers who give info on products! But here we are asking

[D749]

Shoggy
any comments about this new line of accessories http://shop.aquacomputer.de/index.php?language=en& ?

Great. Just when I get everything built they go ahead and release more stuff I want.

[MasterOfTheReal]

Any news on that new D5 and the tube res?

[kroks]

I did some testing on aquaero vrm/controller (no heatsink)
Without fan: 92°
With fan (120mm 1200rpm): 47°!

I didn't expect such a big difference

[Shoggy]

The new aquasuite 2012 BETA 15 is ready for DOWNLOAD.

Important note: older profiles are not compatible to this version so you will have to configure the device/software again! After the firmware update all settings will be reset to their default values. If you are using an aquaero 5 XT we recommend to use the aquaremote or software to calibrate the touch buttons again.

What is new?!

aquasuite 2012
• Integration of the new MPS sensors
• Integration of poweradjust 2
• Integration of aquastream XT
• Integration of tubemeter
• All-in-one installer for x86 and x64 systems
• Software sensors can be used with several aquaero 5 and aquaduct mk IV devices at the same time
• Windows service for automatic synchronization of time, date and software sensors
• Software sensors can be only used with regular version of Open Hardware Monitor (no special version required anymore) and AIDA64 via WMI export
• Software sensor support for Speedfan has been canceled due to problems with Windows internal security features
• Software sensors can be configured directly in the aquasuite, an additional tool is not required anymore, the Windows service is handling that now
• Windows service can be configured from the aquasuite: install, uninstall, start and stop
• New overview pages, after attaching a new device the aquasuite will load a default overview page for the device
• A bug in the RGB controller has been fixed

aquaero 5 firmware 1025
• LCD backlight no longer turns on when the time/date is synchronized
• Number of fan channels have been extended from 10 to 12 so you can use up to 8 poweradjust 2 controllers now
• Number of software sensors have been extended from 4 to 8
• Media keys of the aquaremote are working again
• Completely rewritten aquabus interface, should be very stable now
• Integration of new MPS sensors (aquabus)
• An aquabus bug with the optional real time clock module has been fixed
• Some adjustments on the overview pages
• Offset values for temperatures work directly now, no more delays like before
• A possible bug with LCD flickering and wrong graphic drawing has been fixed

aquaduct mk4 firmware 1010
• LCD backlight no longer turns on when the time/date is synchronized
• Media keys of the aquaremote are working again
• Number of software sensors have been extended from 4 to 8
• Some adjustments on the overview pages
• A possible bug with LCD flickering and wrong graphic drawing has been fixed

poweradjust 2 firmware 1004
• A bug in the automatic temperature control has been fixed, it was able to cause a swinging output
• Adjusted aquabus addressing

Please note: due to the massive changes in the aquasuite it is possible that some things will not work correctly since it is almost impossible to test every possible configuration. If you find a bug or strange behavior, feel free to report it.

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I have seen your last comments. I will try to find some time for the new products tomorrow

[D749]

Shoggy, can the PA2s be updated while still connected to an AQ5 though the bus? I hope we don't have to pull each one out and update them individually.

[Shoggy]

Should be no problem to flash them while they are connected to the aquaero. Of course you will have to plug in the USB cable to flash. You should flash them step by step so do not connect them all at the same time

[pociej]

Shoggy,
two problems with new Aquasuite:
1. Error after I log in to Windows (check screen 1)
2. Error and Aquasuite closes up after click on button "Select Datasource" under Software Temperatures Sensors in Sensors tab... (screen 2)

Screens:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/e0zv8h

[D749]

Should be no problem to flash them while they are connected to the aquaero. Of course you will have to plug in the USB cable to flash. You should flash them step by step so do not connect them all at the same time

So for each PA2s I have to connect it to USB, flash and repeat? If so that's a giant pain in the butt. I wish we could just flash everything via the AQ5 USB connection. Do we still need to use the old version of AS to flash PA2s or can we use AS2012?

Thanks.

[Shoggy]

Firmware updates are only possible through USB. You can only update the devices in the aquasuite 2012.

[Avathar77]

My new AQ5LT has a sticker saying "Remove Seal After Washing"
So what do I have to wash?




@Shoggy
I am liking the new "Flow sensor mps flow 400, G1/4"! When will they be available in UK?
What are the differences between that and "Aquacomputer Flow Sensor 'High Flow' for Aquaero" ?

Any reviews?

[Shoggy]

Hehe, you can just remove it or let it on to lower its volume.

Just have a look at this thread and you will see that the new mps sensor work completely different. There are no more mechanical parts like an impeller. I think the sensors will be available Mid August.

[Martinm210]

Cool, maybe this latest firware will finally flash my board out of recovery mode.

[Avathar77]

There is a small RED LED like light flashing in a very fast interval in my AQ5LT unit! Just above the "Aquabus High" 4 pin connector!
Is that normal?

[Shoggy]

Yes, that LED was used for the development process as feedback for some CPU relevant stuff. It has no real function now. As long as it blinks in some way everything is fine

New BETA 16 is online!

It contains some small bug fixes for the software. No new firmware or functions.

[elpcu]

Not bad, but I wish it should have 30W~ is power support per channel.

Then, I can use it for pump control, and use for controlling bunch of fans with in once channel.

I want to say we are not air cooling guys, so we tends to have pumps and many fans on rads.

and most of us probably do not need to manage each fans in one rad, but treating bunch of fans at once.

It is interesting to see software control + hardware monitor, but still. 4 channels with 1~1.65A? I cannot do much with it.

I need 6 channels with 2.5+ A

Yes, there is expansion, but I don't want to see Ugly expansion, especially considering it's already the most expensive controller

[cx-ray]

You could connect some Poweramps to the AE5 or a few Poweradjusts. There's a slight downside of 1.5-2V drop however.