Quote Originally Posted by BeepBeep2 View Post
No, I wouldn't compare CMT to HT at all.

BD performs like a normal quad core/six/eight core CPU with horrible per-core scaling. You can disable every other core on CH5 and certain bioses, which helps the scaling for tasks that use 2/3/4 threads...but BD has nothing on Phenom II or Intel Core series in single thread.
i said that it works like HT since you get about 50% from the odd cores, it runs great on cores 0/2/4 but on 1/3/5 you get only about 50% more. HT gives you 25-30% more on the even "cores" so i think that is functionally similar and HT but better. in hardware i wil agree that it is not the same.

Quote Originally Posted by S1nn3r View Post
Ive been warned off of Llano/FM1 repeatedly because as quirky and as interesting as it looks as I will be using a discrete card (6870) and anyone ive mentioed Llano/FM1 to has pretty much said no way to Llano as a result. Point taken on the 965BE though, that was on the list before I saw the cashback/trade in deals on the Dozers.

I like the look of these boards so far from my own thinking and the prices on google -

Biostar TA970XE
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=BIO...Ocnusgadkry-BQ

Asrock 970 Extreme 4
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ASR...BNGGswb7vaieBg

In general Asrocks 970 boards seem a better deal then the likes of Asus/Gigabyte, and Biostar has a rep of being good value these days to..

Cooler wise ive noted the Coolermaster 212 Evo and the Arctic cooling A30 .. boath seem to have issues with ease of fitting however, poor instructions and the A30 is rather large to. the 212 wobbles a bit on top of the CPU when fitted to ive read.
the fm1 parts had problems with early boards bioses with some having only shown the bios on the APU graphics ports and some could not disable the apu's gpu. that is all worked out now and if you look the athlon II fm1 chips are regular cpus and not apus so there is no way that they can get any problems with the on board gpu since it is not there. at the same clock a current liano will mop the floor with a non 8 core dozer at the same clock speed.

for the coolers, all coolers that use the stock amd mount and do not use a back plate and screws sit with a little wobble but they perform fine and should not fall off (i have never heard of one falling.)