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    it doesn't have the xmp profile. one subtiming could be asking the vdimm to be raised.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Don_Dan View Post
    Nice to see you working hard on your new setup Beep, don't waste too much time with the Hypers, if they don't work in 32M @ 2133 no tweaking will help. I'm really wondering why your PSC need that much voltage though... Weird.

    Do you have some BBSE you could try?
    No, just this and my Hypers that don't work. I have RipjawsX 1600 C6 I could try too, some say those are good for 2133 CL7-10-7 on Sandy under 1.7v, but they were considerably worse on AMD than my Pi kit. Hypers don't seem outrageously slow at 1900 6-6-5. Maybe with a different chip they would do better on the 2133 divider. (Maybe I'll save them for Ivy and get a ram pot to pull off something somewhat spectacular)
    Quote Originally Posted by Hondacity View Post
    it doesn't have the xmp profile. one subtiming could be asking the vdimm to be raised.
    My PSC have XMP profile at 2133...but I can't run 32M. Luckily I dont' have a problem pushing 1.8-1.85v as long as I have a fan on the dimms but I wonder what it does to the IMC in the long run.
    Last edited by BeepBeep2; 05-28-2012 at 08:33 AM.
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    if its the pi series. the xmp applies vtt = 1.6v. that xmp is for older chips.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondacity View Post
    if its the pi series. the xmp applies vtt = 1.6v. that xmp is for older chips.
    It only changes dram voltage on SB, and all timings but primary are auto still :/
    2200 7-10-7 needs 1.83-1.84v to pass 32M.

    It's kind of ridiculous. I guess I'll try my 1600 6-8-6 RipjawsX next.
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    Hello fellow XS HWBot Team members!

    Sadly I have an extremely limited budget when it comes to benching hardware. But I recently managed to grab a super cheap 2x2GB Crucial Ballistix kit (BLT2CP2G3D1608DT1TX0CEU)
    (http://www.crucial.com/eu/store/part...D1608DT1TX0CEU) and I was wondering if anyone had any idea on what ICs it might use.

    Here is a quick picture:



    I haven't dared removing the heatspreaders on the sticks yet though but I hope it might be possible to figure out anyways.

    I'm also curious if someone could help identify the ICs on the kit I used in my last benching session. Probably the worst kit I've ever used and I'd advice anyone to stay far away from it.
    I originally bought the kit for a LAN-computer and not for benching, but it was sadly the only spare kit I had. When I bought the kit it was the cheapest 8GB kit available in Sweden and it probably still is.
    The kit is called "TED38192M1600HC11DC 4GBx2" and the DIMMs are called "TED34096M1600HC11". It's a Team Group Elite 8GB 1600MHz CL11 kit.

    Here is a picture of the ICs:



    Sorry for the huge pictures by the way!

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    You can run Memtest86+ and it will identify what/which chips they are.

    here is corsairs presentation of how to use it http://www2.corsair.com/training/how_to_memtest/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondacity View Post
    You can run Memtest86+ and it will identify what/which chips they are.

    here is corsairs presentation of how to use it http://www2.corsair.com/training/how_to_memtest/
    Wait. What? Can Memtest identify ICs? How does that work exactly? Never heard about this function in Memtest. Is the IC information coded into the SPD? I thought IC information in general was shrouded in secrecy and was something memory manufacturers kept for themselves? What is the point of, for example, http://ramlist.i4memory.com/ddr3/ if you can just read the ICs of Memtest?

    The videos you linked contained no mention of reading ICs from what I could see? I am very confused now. How do I do it in Memtest exactly?

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    What do you guys think would be faster at same clocks, 6-11-7 or 7-10-7?
    Because it looks like I can run CL6-11 higher than 7-10 on Sandy Bridge, even though I know that my ram goes much further on 7-10-7 than 6-xx-7 on any other platform.

    I haven't tried 32M yet, working on 3DMark 03, but I'm currently at 2260 6-11-7-24, and I can't run 7-10-7 at this frequency.
    Last edited by BeepBeep2; 05-29-2012 at 12:53 PM.
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    1. for quick ram stability test, try pifast 4 times.
    2. for quick latency & bw use aida64, and take screenshots for future reference.
    3. too much vdimm indication: insta off lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Warwian View Post
    Wait. What? Can Memtest identify ICs? How does that work exactly? Never heard about this function in Memtest. Is the IC information coded into the SPD? I thought IC information in general was shrouded in secrecy and was something memory manufacturers kept for themselves? What is the point of, for example, http://ramlist.i4memory.com/ddr3/ if you can just read the ICs of Memtest?

    The videos you linked contained no mention of reading ICs from what I could see? I am very confused now. How do I do it in Memtest exactly?
    As far as I know Memtest can't identify ICs, it just reads the SPD info.

    Quote Originally Posted by Warwian View Post
    Hello fellow XS HWBot Team members!

    Sadly I have an extremely limited budget when it comes to benching hardware. But I recently managed to grab a super cheap 2x2GB Crucial Ballistix kit (BLT2CP2G3D1608DT1TX0CEU)
    (http://www.crucial.com/eu/store/part...D1608DT1TX0CEU) and I was wondering if anyone had any idea on what ICs it might use.

    Here is a quick picture:

    *pic*

    I haven't dared removing the heatspreaders on the sticks yet though but I hope it might be possible to figure out anyways.
    Are the memory sticks single sided? What can your kit do? Crucial is probably using Micron D9PFJ chips on this kit, just like on many other kits that are currently available.

    I'm also curious if someone could help identify the ICs on the kit I used in my last benching session. Probably the worst kit I've ever used and I'd advice anyone to stay far away from it.
    I originally bought the kit for a LAN-computer and not for benching, but it was sadly the only spare kit I had. When I bought the kit it was the cheapest 8GB kit available in Sweden and it probably still is.
    The kit is called "TED38192M1600HC11DC 4GBx2" and the DIMMs are called "TED34096M1600HC11". It's a Team Group Elite 8GB 1600MHz CL11 kit.

    Here is a picture of the ICs:

    *pic*

    Sorry for the huge pictures by the way!
    This kit is hard to guess, I think all of the markings on the chip have been made by TeamGroup, and none of the original markings are left. What can this kit do?
    Last edited by Don_Dan; 05-30-2012 at 05:13 AM. Reason: pics removed from quote

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    You can never have enough D9's.

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    Tweaked for 8 hours today. Also attached a Corsair H70 to a 2600K with zipties.

    It was a lot better than the stock cooler.
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    backplate from KPC +koolance rubber gasket is the ultimate setup. it works with pots, water blocks and air coolers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondacity View Post
    backplate from KPC +koolance rubber gasket is the ultimate setup. it works with pots, water blocks and air coolers.
    Koolance rubber gasket?
    I have the backplate...

    Zipties don't work that well, at least not the ones I had. I had to use four of them, two attached to each other, and then I had to cut them down the middle to get them through the mounting holes, but they still latch. Puts no pressure on the mount, but it keeps contact.

    I'm able to do 5.4 in 3D now, better than 5.2 before but it doesn't seem to help anything but '01 which all my runs were horrible. My first run was the fastest, and I didn't save it, go figure.

    I was surprised how little '03 scaled with CPU. I had a really good run twice (63K with 5770), but now it seems my GPU's memory has gotten tired...artifacts at speeds it ran for the first few hours. 3 / 4 runs was low 62Ks...
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    the gasket is between the plate and the board. its insurance for my case. the msi z77 has a rather long solderjoints on the inductors. i use the backplate for all my boards.

    hack saw...@ big lots is cheap less than 10? check walmart too
    6/32s threaded rods at home depot..i think its 4.99
    brass 6/32s knurled nuts @ homedepot or acehardware...


    combined with Kingpin's awesome plate(soon to be copied by others lol) is my favorite setup. kudos to vince


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hondacity View Post
    the gasket is between the plate and the board. its insurance for my case. the msi z77 has a rather long solderjoints on the inductors. i use the backplate for all my boards.

    hack saw...@ big lots is cheap less than 10? check walmart too
    6/32s threaded rods at home depot..i think its 4.99
    brass 6/32s knurled nuts @ homedepot or acehardware...


    combined with Kingpin's awesome plate(soon to be copied by others lol) is my favorite setup. kudos to vince
    I am so confused...
    Plate on bottom, then rods and the nuts...

    You you need the F1 top bracket? in that case, I have a Venom pot so the top bracket is part of the pot...
    Last edited by BeepBeep2; 05-29-2012 at 10:16 PM.
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    yeah a top plate is necessary. or some waterblocks have top plates that have large enough holes for the threaded rods.


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    I guess I could mount the pot on top with a gasket under...not sure if rods would be long enough and it would look funny though
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    lol. pics


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    Nice work l0ud_sil3nc3!

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    Go George!


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    Go l0ud_sil3nc3!


    ...I have a little bit of a dilemma.
    There is a certain LOD 10+ that gives good 01 nature for me on HD 5770, but it kills other subtests.

    With setLOD I can change the LOD with 01 is open but it has no change. I also tried the registry directly, and no effect unless I restart 01.

    I tried ATI Tray Tools but tray tools is POS software... now that I have uninstalled ATT/driver and reinstalled, what can I do to get LOD changed for each subtest?
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    @beep

    time is up, on the way to the airport now. sorry
    Last edited by Hondacity; 05-31-2012 at 11:48 AM.


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    you can change drivers for each subtest...credit to lab501 guys


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    Having huge issues with '01 efficiency, tried every LOD from 1 to 12 in half steps, still 50-80 FPS behind in the low tests compared to chew*/other runs at lower speeds...nature was great though, 20-30 fps above most results on HWBOT around same clocks.

    I had 380K in Aquamark too but my screenshot got corrupted. I had it on my flash drive, but I'd saved a .BMP...so on my Ubuntu Linux lappy I converted to .png to lower filesize. Then I noticed that the middle half of my screenshot was unreadable and part was chopped off...

    Got 5742 MHz CPU valid on air, don't think I will gain anything for valids when cold, chip was sold to me as 5.76.
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    Who all is benching for the Team Cup?
    I'll be benching for SC4 - AMD K8, K10 and VISION. If I can get an LN2 dewar and get it filled by the end of June, then I should do pretty well there. 955 looks strong, will test on DICE this weekend, looking for 5.8-6 GHz. I know my 5600+ can do 3.8-3.9, probably 3.7 for 32M.

    I'd do K7 too but I only have a 1600+ and pretty crappy motherboard and generic DDR.
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