Kepler Nvidia GeForce GTX 780

[UrbanSmooth]

I like not having to speculate

Nvidia loves it when AMD and all of their fans speculate.

[SimBy]

AMD loves it when Nvidia doesn't show up for the fight.

[Rollo]

AMD loves it when Nvidia doesn't show up for the fight.

It appears to be the only time they can win. Going to be a rough year for AMD on all fronts.

[tbone8ty]

It appears to be the only time they can win. Going to be a rough year for AMD on all fronts.

trinity will rock, vishera will hold its own, intel's crying in a corner over seamicro and radeon HD 7000 entire lineup is out, Amd stock up around ~$8.30 today and nvidia still is a no show and out at apple.

ill overclock a 7970 to 1200mhz and = a gtx 680 for $~100 cheaper and ill be able to get one like yesterday.

good luck getting a gtx 680 when it launches.

ok sorry rant done.

i personally cant wait for nvidia's answer and their software tweaks...

this pricing structure is getting out of control!!!

[Rollo]

trinity will rock, vishera will hold its own, intel's crying in a corner over seamicro and radeon HD 7000 entire lineup is out, Amd stock up around ~$8.30 today and nvidia still is a no show and out at apple.

ill overclock a 7970 to 1200mhz and = a gtx 680 for $~100 cheaper and ill be able to get one like yesterday.

good luck getting a gtx 680 when it launches.

ok sorry rant done.

i personally cant wait for nvidia's answer and their software tweaks...

this pricing structure is getting out of control!!!

You're quite the optimist.

"intel crying in the corner over SeaMicro"?!



I've got some bad news for you: $140b company wiith 80% market share don't care what $5b company does. AMD exists because intel allows them to. All intel would have to do is lower preices a bit temporarily and AMD wouldn't sell a part on the planet. That is the sad reality of the cpu market.

[highoctane]

I agree, considering seamirco was purchased for a little more than 300 million in the multi-billion dollar server world I'm just not seeing the impact from that, might was well be AMD bought a shaved ice popsicle stand.

If Intel decided to compete with raw pricing and priced at AMD's current levels deliberately I doubt AMD would be able to hold out very long with such skinny margins, thats just the reality of the situation.

There's no way Intel could totally stop AMD from selling product but there's no doubt Intel could squeeze AMD on it's margins very easily, especially with the fabing advantage.

If Kepler shapes up to anything like the hype all AMD's previous advantages over Nvidia as far as performance per mm2 and power consumption will largely be nullified with Nvidia possibly gaining the advantage all around and not just raw single gpu performance.

However I'm a wait and see kind of person, I'll believe it all when I see it.

You're quite the optimist.

"intel crying in the corner over SeaMicro"?!



I've got some bad news for you: $140b company wiith 80% market share don't care what $5b company does. AMD exists because intel allows them to. All intel would have to do is lower preices a bit temporarily and AMD wouldn't sell a part on the planet. That is the sad reality of the cpu market.

[cal_guy]

I agree, considering seamirco was purchased for a little more than 300 million in the multi-billion dollar server world I'm just not seeing the impact from that, might was well be AMD bought a shaved ice popsicle stand.

If Intel decided to compete with raw pricing and priced at AMD's current levels deliberately I doubt AMD would be able to hold out very long with such skinny margins, thats just the reality of the situation.

There's no way Intel could totally stop AMD from selling product but there's no doubt Intel could squeeze AMD on it's margins very easily, especially with the fabing advantage.

If Kepler shapes up to anything like the hype all AMD's previous advantages over Nvidia as far as performance per mm2 and power consumption will largely be nullified with Nvidia possibly gaining the advantage all around and not just raw single gpu performance.

However I'm a wait and see kind of person, I'll believe it all when I see it.

The advantage of SeaMicro is the density and the power and cooling savings that it's has plus the fact that it has actual servers in the marketplace. There's nothing quite like it out in the marketplace right now and that's a huge advantage. The power and cooling advantage is so large right now that really Intel's pricing becomes irrelevant for the target customers of the SeaMicro servers.

[eric66]

It appears to be the only time they can win. Going to be a rough year for AMD on all fronts.

I highly doubt that but for nvidia it surely will since they don't have any new product yet, they lost all consoles to amd , also lost apple deal etc ....

[HelixPC]

AMD loves it when Nvidia doesn't show up for the fight.

Really? i remember nVidia showing up every time and winning, maybe late, but they always show up and put on a good show.

5900fx sucked, they came back with 6800gt/ultra, 7800/7900gtx, 8800gtx, gtx280, gtx 580. All winners. And nvidia has far better software and drivers, that in itself is worth a lot.

[AliG]

Really? i remember nVidia showing up every time and winning, maybe late, but they always show up and put on a good show.

5900fx sucked, they came back with 6800gt/ultra, 7800/7900gtx, 8800gtx, gtx280, gtx 580. All winners. And nvidia has far better software and drivers, that in itself is worth a lot.

I don't think your argument is valid. The 6800gt was a winner, but the x1950xtx beat the 7900gtx. The 8800 gtx might just be the great gpu of all time; it's dominance can only be described by the word leng-wait-for-it-i-hope-you're-not-lactose-intolerant-dary. The gtx 280 on the other hand sucked in a lot of ways and frankly was not a very strong performer compared to the 4870x2 at that. The gtx 580 could be described as a winner, but it took the epic fail known as the gtx 480 to get there and still it runs very hot.

I would say the two companies have been trading blows rather well ever since the introduction of the 4870. Winning would imply they actually have a superior product across the board, which frankly I don't think is true with the exception of the 8800gt/gtx and perhaps the gtx 680 generations if the rumors are true.

[solofly]

Really? i remember nVidia showing up every time and winning, maybe late, but they always show up and put on a good show.

5900fx sucked, they came back with 6800gt/ultra, 7800/7900gtx, 8800gtx, gtx280, gtx 580. All winners. And nvidia has far better software and drivers, that in itself is worth a lot.

Let me summarize this for everyone here...

NV = Jaguar
where
AMD = Pinto

Hehehe just having some fun...

[gumballguy]

i remember nVidia showing up every time and winning, maybe late, but they always show up

WTF? If you release your card later, short of screwing something up badly, you SHOULD win.
What a ridiculous thing to say.

And before you ask, I'm waiting for Kepler. Then I'll decide which card to buy. I'm not sitting solely in either camp.

I hear that. Triple GTX 480s under water are just fine right now. I was thinking about waiting until Kepler to upgrade again, however, it's looking more and more like there aren't any games to upgrade for until, maybe Crysis 3?

Looks like a future Maxwell upgrade for the old Smooth as well...

Buy more monitors?
Try 3d?

There are ways! Although I suspect you'll be crippled by vram.

[UrbanSmooth]

Buy more monitors?
Try 3d?

There are ways! Although I suspect you'll be crippled by vram.

Nvidia Surround on triple monitors is enough for me.

Also, as far as 3D goes, I've tried the anaglyph 3D (red/cyan colors) with the cheap cardboard movie glasses, and it looks pretty cool. It got me thinking if the actual Nvidia 3D Vision is any better and how many games have an excellent rating with it.

And on the VRAM topic, yes, 1.5GB of VRAM shared across all three cards is not exactly idea. That is why I am somewhat disappointed in the GTX 680 reference cards being only 2GB. I'll be grabbing three GTX 780s (the ones coming later on) with 4GB+ of VRAM. Oh hallelujah!

[tajoh111]

This can be true if it is really late, but if this launch is in time with Ivybridge it can actually be worse than if AMD was the one being late. If both products are around, then people won't wait for the competitors current product to be out because they are already out. IF both products out, if one outshines the other, people will buy the better product. Of course if the gtx 680 sucks badly, this basically means everyone will jump onto AMD because they know already keplar sucks.