Kepler Nvidia GeForce GTX 780

[zalbard]

If Nvidia doesn't make a big Kepler then this round is shaping up to be much like the last where Nvidia leads by 10-15 pct on the flagship. The difference is that unlike Thermi, now they have a very efficient chip much like Amd.
What I am still left guessing is how they achieved such great efficiency, something must have had give. My guess is that GK104 will be inferior in GPGPU computation than Fermi and will lose a lot of its features that are oriented towards the professional segment and stream computing. This chip will probably be geared only for gaming which is likely how they managed to save so much die space and still make a powerful chip.

I don't think they would've done that. Unless they are specifically making a completely different chip for their professional cards...

[highoctane]

New uarch ushers in new/different standards in power and performance for Nvidia, similar to how Intel's conroe core2 based units changed allot of dynamics from the P4 uarch.

Nvidia is very heavily invested in gpgpu, there's now way they will sacrifice in that area especially now with AMD and Intel taking the whole gpgpu more seriously.

[Lanek]

Does really peoples buy a GTX580 for professional computing ? or do they buy Tesla quadro ?

[Kuroimaho]

Same die, that's what matters.

[Darakian]

Does really peoples buy a GTX580 for professional computing ? or do they buy Tesla quadro ?

They go tesla or quadro for full FP64 support. The geforce line is gimped in FP64 calculations.

[highoctane]

The biggest issue I see when trying to run a consumer grade video card with professional software is consumer hardware usually lacks the software developers certification/validation which is needed to enable specific hardware accelerated features.

So while the consumer card should be able to do everything the professional cards do without the certification/validation you can't take advantage of some or all of the hardware accelerated features possible for a software package.

[Pontos]

The biggest issue I see when trying to run a consumer grade video card with professional software is consumer hardware usually lacks the software developers certification/validation which is needed to enable specific hardware accelerated features.

So while the consumer card should be able to do everything the professional cards do without the certification/validation you can't take advantage of some or all of the hardware accelerated features possible for a software package.

Couldn't a simple DeviceID spoofing solve that issue?

[highoctane]

Couldn't a simple DeviceID spoofing solve that issue?

It used to be easy with rivatuner but eventually you simply cave to buying the hardware you need to avoid the headache and hassle since you need to have validated/certified hardware as well as specific revision certified/validated drivers. I'm sure if you're determined enough you can jump through some hoops to make things function but at some point it's not worth the effort.

I'm guessing now with the professional market much more developed than earlier days they seem to be locking out features and limiting consumer grade hardware from what I've seen. Up until around Nvidia's 2xx series it was rather easy but with newer software revisions and newer hardware generations they seem to be forcing a separation of the consumer market and professional markets even though the hardware is fundamentally the same.